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Russia begins mobilising Ukrainians to fight against their own country
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/russia-begins-mobilising-ukrainians-to-fight-against-their-own-country

“KYIV - In the occupied city of Kherson, some Ukrainian men believe that if they break their own arms, maybe the Russians will not force them into military service.”

 

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2 hours ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

Ukraine Situation Report: Multiple Russian Aircraft Shot Down In A Day

The Russian Air Force had another bad day in the skies over Ukraine as Kyiv claims it downed four jets, drones, and a cruise missile.

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/ukraine-situation-report-multiple-russian-aircraft-shot-down-in-a-day?fbclid=IwAR3MSGHqinvFN-hSQ6-oRKwfyn2Un3FHJCG-kUUlCyTnDleXC3aeOXYOjc8

BY STETSON PAYNE, TYLER ROGOWAY| PUBLISHED SEP 24, 2022 6:53 PM

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A day after air defenses had to confront waves of Iranian-supplies suicide drones, Ukraine says it shot down 4 Russian tactical jet aircraft Saturday over the frontlines.

The Ukrainian General Staff claimed troops shot down two Russian Su-30SM Flankers, a Su-25SM Frogfoot, a Su-34 Fullback, five drones, and a cruise missile. Footage showed a Su-34 trailing fire from its right engine over the frontline in Kharkiv Oblast, with a later clip showing a fireball and crash site in the area. 

Later videos showed an Su-30SM crashing after being hit by a missile, with two parachutes seen descending nearby. Ukraine's total shootdown claims cannot be independently confirmed at this time, though multiple aircraft do appear to have been shot down.

It isn't clear what has caused this spike in sorties and shoot-downs, but it is possible that pressure for the Russian Air Force to halt Ukraine's progress on the battlefield and complicate its forces' ability to hold recaptured territory has increased. Forward-deployed medium and long-range Ukrainian air defenses mean even high-end tactical jets cannot operate at altitude, which pushes them down into the MANPADS envelope. We see the results of that reality today.

Drones are a growing concern. Russian forces sent waves of Iranian drones against targets far from the frontlines on September 23. Losses like Saturday’s and throughout the war in Ukraine are exactly why Russia wanted the Iranian drones in the first place. 

Drones can be expendable and cost-effective. Jets, helicopters, and pilots are not. This is especially true for striking into the western areas of Ukraine where Russian airpower cannot operate without extreme risk. Using drones for smaller targets beyond the front lines instead of standoff land attack cruise and ballistic missiles, which are very costly and in dwindling supply, opens up a whole new set of tactics and access to targets for Russia. Suicide drones can also sniff-out Ukrainian air defense radars and attack them over great ranges, which could impact Ukraine's ability to deny Russian airpower access beyond the front lines. Even if shot down, they consume Ukraine's precious surface-to-air missile stockpile. We wrote about Iran's drones' appearance in Ukraine and recent use, which you can read about here.

Kyiv isn’t taking too kindly to Iran supplying the drones, however. Ukraine has not only condemned the drone supplies, but further stripped the Iranian ambassador’s title and reached out to Israel for any intelligence it can provide on Tehran.

 

After 7 months, and destroying most of Ukraines's airfield during the first month of the invasion, Russia is unable to claim air superiority. This has allow ukraine to counterstrike and claim back alot of lands.

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NASAM is here. Russian aircraft better stay further away. 😁

 

Officially: American Anti-Aircraft NASAMS Already in Ukraine

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National Advanced Surface to Air Missile Systems (NASAMS), the supply of which had been discussed since March 2022, and officially committed by the US Department of Defense in July, have finally made their wave to Ukraine. The arrival of the first systems was confirmed by President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelenskyi during an interview with CBS broadcaster.

"I want to thank President Biden for a positive decision that has been already made. And to the US Congress, we received NASAMS. It's the air defense systems. But believe me, it's not even nearly enough to cover the civilian infrastructure, schools, hospitals, universities, homes of Ukrainians," said Zelenskyi, as quoted by CBS News.

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This is sad man.. When a place is liberated, often the previously oppressed will accused the neighbors who benefitted from the occupiers.

 

 

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1 hour ago, yishunite said:

Damn funny lor... this is sign of desperation. They no scared opsec where all their positions give away to enemy?

Aim their rocket back at Moscow Putin hq :XD:

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WAh, this is scary. Better have good relationship with your neighbors, else kenna accused as collaborator. Last time after 2nd war world, how we heard of similar stories when communist liberate some villages from japanese occupation and neigbor accused other of collaborating with japan.. Face a sham trial and execution. I believe Ukraine will have a fair and transparent trial.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Ender said:

This is sad man.. When a place is liberated, often the previously oppressed will accused the neighbors who benefitted from the occupiers.

 

 

Not yet like this. But who knows? May still happen if the war gets uglier. 

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Ukrainian soldier ( medic)   n USA now asking for more high tech equipment perspective, underfunded and lacking equipment but extremely brave in fighting off the enemy with what they have.

 

 

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1 hour ago, yishunite said:

If people invade Russia, many people sure turn up at their cmpb 

but you ask people to fight an unjust war, people won’t do it.  you better got a lot of money to buy mercenaries

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https://www.channelnewsasia.com/world/im-no-cannon-fodder-russians-flee-georgia-2965591

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Nikita said the wave of Russian emigration seen so far was just a beginning of a mass exodus.

"Millions will follow, nobody wants to go to this war - even those Russians who are poisoned by government propaganda and like the idea of Russia again becoming the dominatrix on the post-Soviet space."

Igor, 32, is one such person.

"I am a patriot, I support Putin and the special military operation in Ukraine," the 32-year-old IT specialist said.

"But personally, I can't go to the war because I am the sole breadwinner in the family and I've got that bloody mortgage."

He said he plans to work remotely for a Russian IT company from Georgia, but will be forced to return to Russia when his passport expires in six months.

"I'll be alive for another six months, until March, that's all I know for sure."

LOL.

 

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8 hours ago, Ender said:

 

 

Another clever example of psychological warfare. Ukrainian side is good with using the media - use a woman to be front and centre, spokesperson, indirectly signalling their opponents, you're having a hard time now and you're only fighting the womenfolk? [laugh]

 

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