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On 3/2/2025 at 10:23 AM, Playtime said:

 

Marco rubio face was priceless. But he got the message to fall in behind Trump. 

Don't laugh at him... it happens in any office,  more often than anyone cares to admit.

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How did this guy who spoke so eloquently on Ukraine giving up nuclear weapons for security guarantee and why USA should live to the role of the guarantor turned into a putin's mouth piece? spewing Russian propaganda?

 

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After Biden, Trump, another senile politician forgot what he said in living up to the role of a guarantor.

 

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Convincing Ukraine to give up their nuclear weapons on the 1990s is the equivalent of average Americans giving up their guns in the belief that the police and military would protect them. 

For most of the world, that has generally worked out. But Americans continue to insist on their right to bear arms and right to carry, even through countless lives are lost to gun violence and school shootings. 

There has been more shootings than there have been shootings prevented because there was someone there with a gun. 

And likewise, the failure of Ukraine to be protected after it gave up its nuclear weapons means we can expect in the near term more countries to start their own clandestine programs in order to protect themselves or "stop an active shooter" when the situation arises, which leads to nuclear proliferation. 

But nuclear weapons allow much smaller nations to punch well above their weight - North Korea for example has an economy a fraction the size of the United States, but the US can ill-afford to allow any one of its major cities from being nuked without being compelled to respond or risk being seen as impotent. 

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On 3/2/2025 at 7:49 PM, Ct3833 said:

If neither  europe and ukraine is in the talk, can US or rather , trump represent ukraine to offer off their land ?  Who is he  to decide for ukraine? This is very ridiculous, stupid people voted a mad president and now here ukraine is implicated 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/zelenskiy-decree-rules-out-ukraine-talks-with-putin-impossible-2022-10-04/

Green T-shirt already decree he will not talk to Putin. Europe for the past 3yrs did not talk or invite Putin even though they had countless peace summit.

Trump make a promise to his voters, he will end wars. Ukraine and Europe all the while are in the menu. Europe and Ukraine don't even have a plan to win the war or ending the war. The longer the war drag, probably Ukraine will end up split between east kyiv and west kyiv.

 

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On 3/2/2025 at 11:33 PM, Ender said:

How did this guy who spoke so eloquently on Ukraine giving up nuclear weapons for security guarantee and why USA should live to the role of the guarantor turned into a putin's mouth piece? spewing Russian propaganda?

 

 

Well... many of trumps first term appointees also eventually turned against him, including even VP Pence.

Many imo were people who really wanted to serve their country,   even if they really don't agree with Trump. Or thought they could balance him.

Marco actually seemed a relatively decent guy by Trump standards,  I kinda suspect he also thinking about this job is a stepping stone for him to run for the next presidential election 🤔.

Who knows,  if things get too bad, he may even eventually resign if it serves to preserve his presidential bid.

It's actually kinda surprising that Trump learnt nothing from his first term about how to be presidential ... also worrying for the rest of the world. 

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On 3/3/2025 at 1:31 AM, Ender said:

Last time LKY used Poisonous Prawn, now they update it to Steel Porcupine.

 

 

Euros in general are still in a post soviet collapse dream. 

Their society have been internally rotted out by the millions of african and middle east immigrants that anyone could see is nothing but a security,  welfare  and cultural disaster. Fracturing themselves. 

Let's see if they could actually do it.😬

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It is a war lesson for many world leaders to learn and wake up. The crown is still talking and eventually take his millions to enjoy life somewhere in Europe whilst his people die for the country. Choose your leader carefully. 

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On 3/3/2025 at 7:03 AM, Playtime said:

 

Well... many of trumps first term appointees also eventually turned against him, including even VP Pence.

Many imo were people who really wanted to serve their country,   even if they really don't agree with Trump. Or thought they could balance him.

Marco actually seemed a relatively decent guy by Trump standards,  I kinda suspect he also thinking about this job is a stepping stone for him to run for the next presidential election 🤔.

Who knows,  if things get too bad, he may even eventually resign if it serves to preserve his presidential bid.

It's actually kinda surprising that Trump learnt nothing from his first term about how to be presidential ... also worrying for the rest of the world. 

Trump learned.

He learned how to be a Republican diktator.

Nowadays, Republican doesn’t go against him.

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On 3/2/2025 at 11:33 PM, Ender said:

How did this guy who spoke so eloquently on Ukraine giving up nuclear weapons for security guarantee and why USA should live to the role of the guarantor turned into a putin's mouth piece? spewing Russian propaganda?

 

Well...he's a politician...enuf said...😁

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It's like the time England gave 25 Rolls Royce Nene jet engines to Russia for their Mig 15 fighters.

Then they realised the KGB infiltrated the top government officials in England.

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