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On 3/2/2025 at 3:29 PM, Kb27 said:

I just read. The nuclear sub is USS Delaware.

It has a diesel backup engine, that needs.. diesel. 😁

Macam optional add on...😁

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For Zelenskyy and Ukraine it is really between the devil and the big blue sea. Make no mistake, their backers to continue resisting Russia all have their own agenda, whether it is to weaken Russia, maintain a buffer rather than share a border with Russia or close Russian ally, or natural resources, none of this is given for altruistic reasons. Except that Donald Trump is overt about it, where previous American administrations prefer to dress it under moral high ground, freedom, democracy, etc. When Kuwait was invaded by Iraq, America led the coalition so as to protect its interests. If Kuwait had no oil, who would have come to its rescue?

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Seems like this rare earth thing is just complete BS. 

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On 3/2/2025 at 6:24 PM, Lala81 said:

 

Seems like this rare earth thing is just complete BS. 

The deal covers all resources, not just rare earth.  Ukraine's resources are mostly in the Russian occupied east, that is why you need 900+ years to pay back. 

Anyway, Trump needs to show a win for US before ending the conflict, forgiving Putin and ending the sanctions on Russia.  Easier for the average Americans to sleep at night. 

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On 3/2/2025 at 6:37 PM, Voodooman said:

The deal covers all resources, not just rare earth.  Ukraine's resources are mostly in the Russian occupied east, that is why you need 900+ years to pay back. 

Anyway, Trump needs to show a win before ending the conflict, forgiving Putin and ending the sanctions on Russia.  Easier for the average Americans to sleep at night. 

Unless Russia collapse internally, Lol no chance.

Anyway tough luck to the Ukranians. Sucks being a big paranoid bear's neighbour.

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3 years war and Russia economy is growimg or at least not hammered

smlj sanction or hardship that US and EU are talking impose to Russia?

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On 2/16/2025 at 7:31 AM, Kb27 said:

US says Ukraine war is Europe problem. They should provide all the peacekeeping force if required.

But they won't let Europe participate in negotiations ? Fk USA.

If neither  europe and ukraine is in the talk, can US or rather , trump represent ukraine to offer off their land ?  Who is he  to decide for ukraine? This is very ridiculous, stupid people voted a mad president and now here ukraine is implicated 

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i see that zelensky answered eloquently ... [thumbsup] 

not easy for any english speaker ie: sporean who is not native angmoh

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On 3/2/2025 at 6:53 PM, Wt_know said:

3 years war and Russia economy is growimg or at least not hammered

smlj sanction or hardship that US and EU are talking impose to Russia?

china and india still buying it's oil mah.

the normal folk now buying more china cars. 


According to sarah paine, the effects of sanctions is crippling. but it takes many years to see it's effect. 

But of course big bear can ignore some pain and still continue to function. 

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On 3/2/2025 at 6:53 PM, Wt_know said:

3 years war and Russia economy is growimg or at least not hammered

smlj sanction or hardship that US and EU are talking impose to Russia?

Black market oil are transacted in open water.

Who want to enforce it?

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On 3/2/2025 at 6:40 PM, Lala81 said:

Unless Russia collapse internally, Lol no chance.

Anyway tough luck to the Ukranians. Sucks being a big paranoid bear's neighbour.

Ukraine is like a welterweight wrestler fighting heavy weight Russia in the ring.... While EU is like the coach urging them not to throw towel and will continue to support them by sending in tag team into the ring. 

USA is like event marketer. Decided the show don't generate enough ratings and want to pull the plug and wanted 50% of the takings. 

Ukraine wanted to fight to end...Russia too, event USA, but none can agree the split. 

Maybe Eu owns the live telecast rights so wanted to keep the fight going too.

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On 3/2/2025 at 8:15 PM, inlinesix said:

Black market oil are transacted in open water.

Who want to enforce it?

But USA sanctions now going downstream to supporting industry and sectors. 

If got caught facilitating transactions, supply chain etc will be badly hit.... 

IF got caught lah.

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On 3/2/2025 at 4:06 PM, macrosszero said:

For Zelenskyy and Ukraine it is really between the devil and the big blue sea. Make no mistake, their backers to continue resisting Russia all have their own agenda, whether it is to weaken Russia, maintain a buffer rather than share a border with Russia or close Russian ally, or natural resources, none of this is given for altruistic reasons. Except that Donald Trump is overt about it, where previous American administrations prefer to dress it under moral high ground, freedom, democracy, etc. When Kuwait was invaded by Iraq, America led the coalition so as to protect its interests. If Kuwait had no oil, who would have come to its rescue?

If Kuwait had no oil, it would not be invaded by Iraq in the first place. Unless Saddam wanted sand and more sand... :D

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Ukraine main export has always been grains … due to the war , most of their land kena bombed left right and Center … they are F and gone as a grain export country … 

urkaines are known in shipping trade as the most corrupt crews ever …. China / Indians also o fight at all ..

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On 3/2/2025 at 9:28 PM, Ahwhye said:

If Kuwait had no oil, it would not be invaded by Iraq in the first place. Unless Saddam wanted sand and more sand... :D

SG need a lot of sand😅 and stones.

After having Coney Island, we going to build Long Island.

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On 3/2/2025 at 11:01 PM, Atonchia said:

SG need a lot of sand😅 and stones.

After having Coney Island, we going to build Long Island.

Sg has no natural resources, so the strategy is to have extremely high surplus in our reserve. Of course a lot of oppo supporters won't understand.

I voted blue btw. LOL

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Wake up Europe. you all have been underspending on defense budget, and the size of military industries has to increase.

 

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