Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine

[Ghgan]

 

[Sturtles]

On 10/9/2024 at 8:46 PM, yishunite said:

100% Putin. There is such a thing call peaceful dispute resolution 

And your answer is? Or you chicken out as usual

 

In your dreams

Russia is already at the top of the table for world security through UN

It is deadlocked by its adversary whom is on the same table, so its security concerns are not addressed.

Either Russia is crippled or its concerns addressed.

It is inevitable. 

Mark my words. We will see a major war between nations break out in the Middle East as well, with US egging on their participants either directly or puppeteering behind the scenes

A third to Zelensky, another to Putin, and another to Biden for starting the SMO.

Whereas Poohbear Xi is 100% to blame for allowing this invasion to not fizzle out.

Woke logic

Go figure.

[inlinesix]

On 10/9/2024 at 8:57 PM, Sturtles said:

 

In your dreams

Russia is already at the top of the table for world security through UN

It is deadlocked by its adversary whom is on the same table, so its security concerns are not addressed.

Either Russia is crippled or its concerns addressed.

It is inevitable. 

Mark my words. We will see a major war between nations break out in the Middle East as well, with US egging on their participants either directly or puppeteering behind the scenes

A third to Zelensky, another to Putin, and another to Biden for starting the SMO.

Whereas Poohbear Xi is 100% to blame for allowing this invasion to not fizzle out.

Woke logic

Go figure.

SMLJ WOKE fault

😂😂😂😂😂

[inlinesix]

On 10/9/2024 at 9:37 PM, yishunite said:

Does our Russian IB friend know what is SMLJLJSM 🤣🤣🤣

Since Ukrainian doesn’t want to sleep with Russian, Ukrainian tio raped.

Ukrainian bears 1/3 of fault.

Speechless

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This is the reality on the Eastern frontline, where Ukraine is retreating.

 

 

[Ender]

On 10/9/2024 at 6:03 PM, Sturtles said:

Well,

the previous  video described “leaves protected them”

come autumn, leaves are gone, and the residents will be exposed to grenade dropping drones

 

Anyway, from tactical and logical POV, no strong reason to terrorise innocent civilians 

The precious armaments, purported to be sorely lacking by the Russian due to their failing and damaged logistic chain, would not be carelessly wasted on useless targets

Also, if Kherson is held by Ukrainians, then the soldiers should be the first target, and soldiers should have anti-drone devices against primitive grenade-dropping gadgets.

If there are no UKR troops defending, then Russian troops are in town, and why would they waste they time like so, which brings me back to POINT 1.

Why residents rely on trees and leaves and not Ukrainian army is beyond me.

A lie, if reported and re-reported multiple times, becomes a fact in peoples’ mind

The world is now very complex and nuanced. 
 

There is a strong need to decipher the wheat from the chaffs for everyone.

This is not out of character of Russia. Hitting non-strategic civilian targets has always been their MO. The children hospitals is one such target of no military value. Market place, schools ..etc. Terrorism is the game they are playing til Ukraine submit.

Russia drones production are twice the amount of Ukraine production, they have not lack of equipment and ammunition. Southern Kherson is where the Russian is holding., It has direct link from Crimea. The Kerch Bridge is a known logistic line that Ukraine promise to destroy one day. There is no broken logistic for Russia in the Kherson region.

If EW (anti drone measure) is so effective and everywhere Ukraine has one, we wouldn't see so many footages of FPV drone successfully attacking soldiers. At the moment, Drones be it grenade dropping or Kamikaze FPV, countermeasures against are mostly ineffective and so far both sides do not have a effective counter measure. The best so far  is still EW, which itself is sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. And EW on frontline is also rare on both sides.

 

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On 10/9/2024 at 6:24 PM, Sturtles said:

Not the best source of information

May well quote from Sputnik.

I'm surprised the reporters are such fools to reveal highly classified sit-rep where UKR army is unable to protect residents from 300 daily enemy drones hunting civilians for blood sport.

 

Don't see when Russia striking terror on Ukrainian civilian should be classified items. Even the failed interception of missiles are reported by the Ukranian media. Russia terror needs to reported and not hidden. But I know this type of failure would be embarrassing to an authoritarian regime. 

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[Sturtles]

On 10/10/2024 at 3:46 AM, Ender said:

Don't see when Russia striking terror on Ukrainian civilian should be classified items. Even the failed interception of missiles are reported by the Ukranian media. Russia terror needs to reported and not hidden. But I know this type of failure would be embarrassing to an authoritarian regime. 

 

It’s sarcasm bro

[Sturtles]

On 10/10/2024 at 3:46 AM, Ender said:

Don't see when Russia striking terror on Ukrainian civilian should be classified items. Even the failed interception of missiles are reported by the Ukranian media. Russia terror needs to reported and not hidden. But I know this type of failure would be embarrassing to an authoritarian regime. 

These are not suicide drones 

They can be reused, using homing function

When 300 drones return to the same treeline, wouldn’t a defended Kherson call a strike, on that position?

No matter how strapped UKR army is, 1:5/1:10, surely they can send a couple to the terror’s nest

I’m not taking position here.

Just identifying logic loopholes in these propaganda stories, and hope you don’t become an unwitting tool for its dissemination 

 

 

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On 10/10/2024 at 7:24 AM, Sturtles said:

These are not suicide drones 

They can be reused, using homing function

When 300 drones return to the same treeline, wouldn’t a defended Kherson call a strike, on that position?

No matter how strapped UKR army is, 1:5/1:10, surely they can send a couple to the terror’s nest

I’m not taking position here.

Just identifying logic loopholes in these propaganda stories, and hope you don’t become an unwitting tool for its dissemination 

 

 

Guess you haven't watch frontline footages of drone strike. It's probably one of the weapons that has almost no countermeasures at ground level. That is why they are so deadly, again be it kamikaze or grenade dropping drones. They are the game changer in warfare in the Ukraine war.  It  also why the Dragon drones (a FPV drone like a grenade dropping drone or Kamikaze) is currently deadly to the Russian trenches. YOu never know when they will appear and moment, and the moment one sees you, it really run and hide, nothing much you can do to stop it. 

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Good words, but ineffective when all partners lack the political will bring this to its realization.

 

 

[Ender]

On 10/10/2024 at 5:32 PM, yishunite said:

🤣🤣🤣🤣

Why are propagandists most desperate to claim they are objective? When you assign blame to victims and eagerly dismiss the aggressors blame you arent being objective, your doing propaganda for them 

Everyone else can see you are either brainwashed or a super gullible Putin follower, or conducting influence ops. Because we can see your not an idiot the conclusion is that you are IB

Like he keeps on picking on news of pro Ukrainian post and tells us not to be unwitting disseminating of western propaganda. But here we also have our bro @Ghganposting Russia propaganda (from Redact, John Hinkle, well known anti west propagandists) which all of us has no issue. No one stopping him to post. Freedom to post, no need to pick on each other post.  But our @Sturtleshas given him a free pass. The biase is obvious.

[inlinesix]

On 10/10/2024 at 6:43 PM, Ender said:

Like he keeps on picking on news of pro Ukrainian post and tells us not to be unwitting disseminating of western propaganda. But here we also have our bro @Ghganposting Russia propaganda (from Redact, John Hinkle, well known anti west propagandists) which all of us has no issue. No one stopping him to post. Freedom to post, no need to pick on each other post.  But our @Sturtleshas given him a free pass. The biase is obvious.

Bro, we are WOKE la

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Zelensky clarifies. Yesterday, Russian propagandist starts spreading the news that Ukraine is considering a cease fire with the current front line changes, in return for quick accession into EU.

 

 

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I say Biden is one of the biggest obstacle for item 1 to 3. 

 

 

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What are they doing? Is Russia anticipating the approval of deep strike of airbase inside Russia? So move some bombersto Belarus in order not to compromise the distance travel and relying on the status that Ukraine aren't at war with Belarus, yet.

 

 

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Zelensky just presented his Victory plan to Macron. The plan that Pro Russian claimed to have seen before Biden had and dis it as nothing. It was even parroted in this thread too.

 

 

[Kb27]

France stepping up its game.