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Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine


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Hypersonic

Question I have is what are being discussed on how far to go with their involvement of Kursk incursion? Are they getting cold feet that Challengers tanks are inside Russia firing at Russian troops, or are they going to say let's give them more tanks and IFV?

Anyway Germany got cold feet liao.  No more new aids, but they will still deliver what was promised.

 

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Hypersonic

I didn't know Ukraine has the Thermobaric launchers too. Always thought Russia was the only one using it against Ukraine. Wonder which country gave them that.

 

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Turbocharged
On 8/18/2024 at 11:23 PM, Lala81 said:

I agree if you have enemies then nukes bestest deterrence. Mearshimer already warned that once Iran reaches nuclear capable. Israel will launch pre emptive strike. 

Bilahari in a podcast 1-2 months back recently said he also sees this as high probability. 

You can argue that the story line in top gun maverick is potentially what the Israelis are surely planning already. 

The balance is delicate. Thankfully asean is nuclear weapon free zone. 

What we say here isn’t going matter one iota at the international level of geopolitics and foreign relations.

We don’t need to look to TG: M to have a clue what Israel would do - they have done it for real in the past on both Iraq and Iran. And for the record, TG: M’s strike is very similar to Star War’s trench run where the entire Death Star was undone by 2 photon torpedoes into a 2 metre ventilation shaft without using targeting aids. Which itself was inspired by the 1960s film 633 squadron.

And no, with the FPDA and nuclear-armed navies conducting FONOPS in the Malacca Strait and SCS, ASEAN isn’t nuclear-free - they just don’t own them.

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On 8/19/2024 at 4:27 AM, macrosszero said:

What we say here isn’t going matter one iota at the international level of geopolitics and foreign relations.

We don’t need to look to TG: M to have a clue what Israel would do - they have done it for real in the past on both Iraq and Iran. And for the record, TG: M’s strike is very similar to Star War’s trench run where the entire Death Star was undone by 2 photon torpedoes into a 2 metre ventilation shaft without using targeting aids. Which itself was inspired by the 1960s film 633 squadron.

And no, with the FPDA and nuclear-armed navies conducting FONOPS in the Malacca Strait and SCS, ASEAN isn’t nuclear-free - they just don’t own them.

Nuclear free is nz. No nukes owned by asean members good enough. 

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Supersonic

I am very curious to see how soon and how easy  Ukraine is going to take down the crimea bridge .

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Hypersonic
On 8/19/2024 at 3:03 PM, Ct3833 said:

I am very curious to see how soon and how easy  Ukraine is going to take down the crimea bridge .

Ukraine is destroying Crimea air defense now.

Pretty soon

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Hypersonic

Frontline changes. While Ukraine gains Russian territories in Kursk, Putin is gaining quickly in the Eastern Ukriane. He may have diverted some armies to Kursk, but the bulk of them are still in Ukraine and advancing. Putin is not going to push the red button anytime soon going by frontline movements.

 

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On 8/18/2024 at 7:39 PM, yishunite said:

Big EV battery ah 😱

Russia shot down all drones attacking their oil depot.

They shot down one with a really big battery.

:D

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The forever shifting goal posts of putin's red line. Coz every one of his red line has been crossed, and he needs a new one to carry on his threats.

 

 

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Hypersonic

Putin is bluffing.

He is not going nuclear.

Ukraine too close.

Nuke Ukraine and radioactive dust 

will just blow into Russia.

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On 8/19/2024 at 9:26 PM, Jamesc said:

Putin is bluffing.

He is not going nuclear.

Ukraine too close.

Nuke Ukraine and radioactive dust 

will just blow into Russia.

Do you think he cares about Russian citizens, the way he’s been feeding them into the Ukrainian meat grinder?

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On 8/19/2024 at 9:54 PM, macrosszero said:

Do you think he cares about Russian citizens, the way he’s been feeding them into the Ukrainian meat grinder?

No he cannot go nuclear because he lives in Russia.

It's not like like he can nuke Ukraine and go and live on a beach in Tahiti.

So if he nukes Ukraine and the radioactive ash blows into Russia he will need to live in an underground bunker.

:D

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Other than being putin's messenger boy, what is he going to do in Ukraine?

 

 

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Supersonic
On 8/20/2024 at 1:16 AM, Ender said:

Other than being putin's messenger boy, what is he going to do in Ukraine?

Sometimes you need for someone to be there personally to see the destruction done to Ukraine.

It might change his mind.

That's why Zelensky keep asking Trump to visit Ukraine.

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On 8/19/2024 at 11:12 PM, yishunite said:

China already said nukes is red line for them. So he nuke Ukraine then USA nuke him then whats his next move

NK help Russia nuke US :wut:

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On 8/20/2024 at 6:51 AM, Kb27 said:

That's why Zelensky keep asking Trump to visit Ukraine.

The fat idiot is not going to go lah.

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