Putin starts “military operation” on Ukraine

[inlinesix]

On 7/9/2024 at 3:49 PM, Kb27 said:

China can attack Taiwan any day, and the matter raised in UNSC. It will be vetoed and shrugged off, like Ukraine.

It is PRC internal affair

😂

[jcmm]

On 7/9/2024 at 3:49 PM, Kb27 said:

UN is useless. But the West will still try to work with them, as long as issues are getting along. The idea is to prevent these kind of wars, but it's not working, esp, when it's started by UNSC members.

russia will of cuz veto, and everybody gets along for another day.

China can attack Taiwan any day, and the matter raised in UNSC. It will be vetoed and shrugged off, like Ukraine.

UN  1 single veto can bull the rest of the world.    

Edited July 9 by jcmm

[Sturtles]

On 7/9/2024 at 8:58 PM, yishunite said:

Countries want to live under democracy and not under corrupt dictator... what to do? Look at all their neighbours that got a choice... Baltics especially but most of former Warsaw Pact

The previous elected President May be corrupt, but he didn’t bring cause hundreds of thousands of UKR deaths, and UKR borders are whole

Zelensky is a western puppet, but also corrupt and so much so it is an excuse to not admit UKR into NATO 

 

 

[inlinesix]

On 7/9/2024 at 9:53 PM, Sturtles said:

The previous elected President May be corrupt, but he didn’t bring cause hundreds of thousands of UKR deaths, and UKR borders are whole

Zelensky is a western puppet, but also corrupt and so much so it is an excuse to not admit UKR into NATO 

Previous President lost Crimea.

He lost part of Ukraine East.

No thanks to Russian Rebel, Malaysian Airline entire flight was shot down.

YOU should wake up.

Edited July 9 by inlinesix

[macrosszero]

On 7/9/2024 at 9:53 PM, Sturtles said:

The previous elected President May be corrupt, but he didn’t bring cause hundreds of thousands of UKR deaths, and UKR borders are whole

Zelensky is a western puppet, but also corrupt and so much so it is an excuse to not admit UKR into NATO 

 

 

I'm sorry but did you just attempt to redefine what UKR's borders were, be it the Donetsk, Luhansk or Crimea?

 

 

[Ender]

With the latest missile targeting the children hospital, Russia should be off the UN security council. They are the very cause for security concern. No historical argument can justify this action.

[Ender]

Ukraine lesson learnt, not to give up military power for security guarantee.

 

 

[Ender]

Switzerland had been quite anal in their neutrality stand for the past two years, that it hurt Ukraine.  Now this is a step in the right direction.  The attack on the Children hospital likely to have triggered this.

 

[Ender]

Too bad, lacking balls is not a major deal breaker for being a presidential candidate.

 

[Sturtles]

On 7/10/2024 at 2:18 AM, Ender said:

Ukraine lesson learnt, not to give up military power for security guarantee.

 

 

 

You should be getting it.

It is not in their country's interest to admit Ukraine in midst of war with another superpower.

Corruption in the defence forces, blah blah blah are just never ending "excuse" for so.

They are just taking turns pulling a good cop/black cop.

The very least they can do is admit Ukraine into EU as show of solidarity, but Poland be the first to reject

 

[Sturtles]

On 7/9/2024 at 11:17 PM, macrosszero said:

I'm sorry but did you just attempt to redefine what UKR's borders were, be it the Donetsk, Luhansk or Crimea?

 

 

My bad, a mistake on my part... meant to say the "elected president" deposed by the colour revolution. 

[macrosszero]

On 7/10/2024 at 6:43 AM, Sturtles said:

My bad, a mistake on my part... meant to say the "elected president" deposed by the colour revolution. 

But that was not what I asked

[Sturtles]

On 7/10/2024 at 8:07 AM, macrosszero said:

But that was not what I asked

You meant Ukraine’s borders are now whole?

I doubt Putin wants the whole of UKR, because they don’t have the population to manage it

Unless, again he is dumb enough to be baited into it

[macrosszero]

On 7/10/2024 at 9:00 AM, Sturtles said:

You meant Ukraine’s borders are now whole?

I doubt Putin wants the whole of UKR, because they don’t have the population to manage it

Unless, again he is dumb enough to be baited into it

In saying it is whole now, you mean now as in now 2024?

Or 2014?

Or 1991?

Then if Russia has the population “to manage it” in 2030,

What will Ukraine’s borders be?

 

[Sturtles]

On 7/10/2024 at 10:07 AM, macrosszero said:

 

Then if Russia has the population “to manage it” in 2030,

What will Ukraine’s borders be?

 

This is a good retort.

i agree. Hence Ukraine should buy time protect itself.

Including a long term cease fire or truce or some sorts 

 

 

 

[inlinesix]

On 7/10/2024 at 6:43 AM, Sturtles said:

My bad, a mistake on my part... meant to say the "elected president" deposed by the colour revolution. 

LOL.

Both Orange Revolution and Euromaidan protests has 1 common name involved, Viktor Yanukovych.

LOL

[Playtime]

On 7/9/2024 at 8:21 AM, yishunite said:

Really despicable act. I dont understand how all the Putin supporter here still want to promote this killer and his talking points. It was like the Mariupol theater mark "children" and only building left standing till they also decide to bomb it. F***d up max

Nothing to do with Russia really. 

3 camps. 

Indian camp depend on Russia as a balance against China. Plus they see Russia/Ukraine through India/Pakistan eyes. Nothing to do with any love of Russia. 

 

The pro china camp just support anything China says. Plus they wanna invade Taiwan. Period. No love of Russia. 

 

The anti west camp supports anything.. even Hamas ,isis etc..  if it is seen as anti west. Again no love of Russia. 

🤷‍♂️

[Sturtles]

On 7/10/2024 at 12:28 PM, inlinesix said:

LOL.

Both Orange Revolution and Euromaidan protests has 1 common name involved, Viktor Yanukovych.

LOL

Let's watch what unfolds.