BYD Seal Atto 4 electric sports sedan

[macrosszero]

On 3/4/2024 at 1:20 PM, Sdf4786k said:

I think ICE cars are still way better if need to use NSHW. Electric max out at 180kmh. 2020 cars that are ICE 2.0 liter max out at 270kmh

Count the percentage of time you spend above 180kmh in comparison to your entire journey on the NSHW?

The NSH is neither a drag strip nor the autobahn where drivers know to keep left and there aren't any speed enforcement. 

An EV is always in the correct (single) gear that all its torque is delivered immediately if you wish to overtake.

An ICE still takes longer to increase speed from a steady cruise - gearbox to downshift, engine to enter its torque band, etc. etc.

[inlinesix]

For NSHW, the best car to drive is Ford Ranger Raptor.

Set ACC to 140km/h.

When encounter turtle, just accelerate enough for ACC to take over.

Once ACC take over, turtle confirm fast hand fast leg go 1 side.

[L23]

On 3/4/2024 at 5:23 PM, inlinesix said:

For NSHW, the best car to drive is Ford Ranger Raptor.

Set ACC to 140km/h.

When encounter turtle, just accelerate enough for ACC to take over.

Once ACC take over, turtle confirm fast hand fast leg go 1 side.

This is a devil on the highway. 

Big and speedy...

Should be nice to drive one.

[Lala81]

On 3/4/2024 at 5:23 PM, inlinesix said:

For NSHW, the best car to drive is Ford Ranger Raptor.

Set ACC to 140km/h.

When encounter turtle, just accelerate enough for ACC to take over.

Once ACC take over, turtle confirm fast hand fast leg go 1 side.

yup i see a hilux behind me tailgating at 140kph, i just siam to center asap. 

[Vratenza]

On 3/4/2024 at 3:11 PM, Voodooman said:

I am pretty sure the i4 drive is much better than the Seal but the price differential means the Germans will struggle to compete. Think only Tesla can fight the Chinese in next few years with its integrated model.

In SG context, the differential between the 6s i4 edrive35 with a 67kwh battery and the 3.8s fully loaded Seal with a 82.6 kwh battery is a whopping $75k.   It is pretty glaring given the specs.

tested both and can attest to what you stated.

The handing/drive/fit and finish of the i4 edrive35 just edge out the Seal dual motor by a smidge.....but this smidge is not worth the $75k to be absolutely honest.

If I am convinced of EV, the seal will be my choice for sure.

[Sdf4786k]

On 3/5/2024 at 12:47 PM, Vratenza said:

tested both and can attest to what you stated.

The handing/drive/fit and finish of the i4 edrive35 just edge out the Seal dual motor by a smidge.....but this smidge is not worth the $75k to be absolutely honest.

If I am convinced of EV, the seal will be my choice for sure.

its for people who are not the least bothered with 75K and just want the car..

 

[inlinesix]

Seal is getting into Tesla Model 3 price territory liao

Non-Guaranteed 80k COE: $196,000

Guaranteed COE: $206,000

Tesla Model 3: $95k - $110k

[Tohto]

On 4/25/2024 at 4:16 PM, inlinesix said:

Seal is getting into Tesla Model 3 price territory liao

Non-Guaranteed 80k COE: $196,000

Guaranteed COE: $206,000

Tesla Model 3: $95k - $110k

This should be the Premium model price. 

$204k for guarantee COE when I visited showroom look look last Sat.

[inlinesix]

On 4/25/2024 at 5:48 PM, Tohto said:

This should be the Premium model price. 

$204k for guarantee COE when I visited showroom look look last Sat.

This is based on their price list which is $215k for Premium with guarantee COE.

If the same gap is maintain, that means $195k for Dynamic with guarantee COE.

[Voodooman]

On 3/5/2024 at 12:47 PM, Vratenza said:

tested both and can attest to what you stated.

The handing/drive/fit and finish of the i4 edrive35 just edge out the Seal dual motor by a smidge.....but this smidge is not worth the $75k to be absolutely honest.

If I am convinced of EV, the seal will be my choice for sure.

I haven't been able to test drive the Seal 3.8 Performance variant, went to 2 dealerships and only the Premium variant is available for test drive. Can share which AD you went to? Thanks.

[Vratenza]

On 4/26/2024 at 7:29 AM, Voodooman said:

I haven't been able to test drive the Seal 3.8 Performance variant, went to 2 dealerships and only the Premium variant is available for test drive. Can share which AD you went to? Thanks.

Pm you. 😊

[Fellows]

 

[Tohto]

Only in Singapore.  Every car must detuned to Cat A. Really sad. 

For this car,  minimum must at least the Seal Premium model.  

 

[oleoleole]

On 6/15/2024 at 10:34 PM, Tohto said:

Only in Singapore.  Every car must detuned to Cat A. Really sad. 

For this car,  minimum must at least the Seal Premium model.  

 

But no offence, this variant appeals to drivers like me. Although it's only 100kw, but the torque is stil 360nm. More than adequate for city driving. I test drove the premium version and felt uneasy. The power came on too fast, too quiet.. Maybe im the minority hum ji driver lol.. But anyway, $179K (Guaranteed COE) for the Cat A Seal, if anyone of you are curious. Can find find yr preferred SE haha.. I'm stil waiting for the new Ioniq5... 

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[inlinesix]

On 6/17/2024 at 9:51 AM, oleoleole said:

But no offence, this variant appeals to drivers like me. Although it's only 100kw, but the torque is stil 360nm. More than adequate for city driving. I test drove the premium version and felt uneasy. The power came on too fast, too quiet.. Maybe im the minority hum ji driver lol.. But anyway, $179K (Guaranteed COE) for the Cat A Seal, if anyone of you are curious. Can find find yr preferred SE haha.. I'm stil waiting for the new Ioniq5... 

You step too hard.  That's why power came too fast.

I test drove Tesla Model 3 previously.  Need to learn to feather throttle.

For 100kw, keep to lane 2 of Expressway.  You will have problem overtaking on lane 1.

Test drive X1 and see for yourself.

 

[steveting99]

When is the BYD Sealion coming to land at Singapore's shore?

[Vratenza]

On 6/15/2024 at 10:34 PM, Tohto said:

Only in Singapore.  Every car must detuned to Cat A. Really sad. 

For this car,  minimum must at least the Seal Premium model.  

 

Ok, now Seal is guranteed plus chope to be off my EV shopping list.

 

[Carbon82]

On 6/15/2024 at 10:34 PM, Tohto said:

Only in Singapore.  Every car must detuned to Cat A. Really sad. 

For this car,  minimum must at least the Seal Premium model.  

 

With the introduction of all these detuned Cat A EVs, Cat A COE is going to match that of Cat B very soon. LTA are either sleeping or still "monitoring the situation"...

Lai lai, let me give LTA a suggestion. Just have 1 single COE cat for all new vehicles. 

• <1,600 cc pay 1x the premium
• >1,600 cc pay 1.2x the premium 
• EV pay 0.8x the premium (the extra road tax will well cover the lost in COE) 
• Commercial vehicle pay 0.6x the premium 
• Motorcycle pays 0.2x the premium 

So simple...