Formula 1 2022

[Windwaver]

Russell 5th again , Monaco is seriously boring.

[Windwaver]

 

[Spidey10]

8 hours ago, Windwaver said:

Russell 5th again , Monaco is seriously boring.

you can say that again!!....once you are stuck behind a slower car, that's it!! just look at the Alonso train, easily all the teams are behind him except for the top 6....

[Windwaver]

  

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12623551/monaco-gp-ferrari-protest-max-verstappens-third-place-claim-clear-rules-breach-at-pit-exit

Monaco GP: Ferrari protest Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen, claim 'clear rules breach' at pit exit

"There was a clear breach of regulations"; Ferrari have protested against Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen exit from the pit lane, claiming they failed to stay to the right of the yellow line; Perez won the race, Verstappen finished third'

Ferrari have launched a protest against Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen at the Monaco GP, accusing Red Bull's race winner and world champion of pit exit infringements.

Perez and Verstappen have been accused of crossing the yellow line when leaving the pits on Lap 23, trying to stay ahead of Ferrari's Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc.

Perez eventually won the race, while Verstappen finished third.

Race Control didn't launch an investigation during the Monte Carlo epic but afterwards Ferrari boss Mattia Binotto accused both drivers of a "clear rules breach".

The FIA summons then confirmed that both Perez and Verstappen were under investigation, with a Red Bull representative called to stewards at 6.15pm UK time.

"We made the protest because we believe it was right to seek clarification," said Binotto. "I think both Red Bulls were on the yellow line at the exit and in the past that has always been penalised with a five-second penalty."

Binotto noted both the International Sporting Code and the race director's notes as he earlier told Sky Sports F1: "We are disappointed because we believe there was a clear breach of regulations on the two Red Bull going on the yellow line exiting the pit.

"I think it was not close. It was on the line and if you look at the intonation of the sporting code it is saying crossing, but we had a clarification in Turkey 2020 to avoid any discussions and if you look at the race director notes it indicates staying to the right.

"So, being on the line is breaching the race director notes and I think each single team has a duty and a task to follow the race director notes.

"So for us that is something unclear and we are still seeking clarification from the FIA and we will be happy to have as soon as possible our feedback."

But Horner told Sky Sports News: "It's disappointing that it's been protested.

"We believe the International Sporting Code is clear. He didn't go over the line, he was always in contact with the line.

"We've seen other precedents set, with other drivers in the past. If it was any more than even a reprimand, I'd be hugely disappointed in that. I really hope that common sense will prevail."

It seems both team bosses may have a point, with the race directors' notes stating that "drivers must keep to the right of the solid yellow line at the pit exit when leaving the pits and stay to the right of this line until it finishes after Turn 1".

But the International Sporting Code just says a tyre must not "cross" the yellow line.

Appendix L reads: "Any tyre of a car exiting the pit lane must not cross any line painted on the track at the pit exit for the purpose of separating cars leaving the pit lane from those on the track."

[Kar_lover]

1 minute ago, Windwaver said:

  

https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12433/12623551/monaco-gp-ferrari-protest-max-verstappens-third-place-claim-clear-rules-breach-at-pit-exit

Monaco GP: Ferrari protest Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen, claim 'clear rules breach' at pit exit

"There was a clear breach of regulations"; Ferrari have protested against Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen exit from the pit lane, claiming they failed to stay to the right of the yellow line; Perez won the race, Verstappen finished third'

Ferrari have launched a protest against Sergio Perez and Max Verstappen at the Monaco GP, accusing Red Bull's race winner and world champion of pit exit infringements.

Perez and Verstappen have been accused of crossing the yellow line when leaving the pits on Lap 23, trying to stay ahead of Ferrari's Carlos Sainz and Charles Leclerc.

Perez eventually won the race, while Verstappen finished third.

Race Control didn't launch an investigation during the Monte Carlo epic but afterwards Ferrari boss Mattia Binotto accused both drivers of a "clear rules breach".

The FIA summons then confirmed that both Perez and Verstappen were under investigation, with a Red Bull representative called to stewards at 6.15pm UK time.

"We made the protest because we believe it was right to seek clarification," said Binotto. "I think both Red Bulls were on the yellow line at the exit and in the past that has always been penalised with a five-second penalty."

Binotto noted both the International Sporting Code and the race director's notes as he earlier told Sky Sports F1: "We are disappointed because we believe there was a clear breach of regulations on the two Red Bull going on the yellow line exiting the pit.

"I think it was not close. It was on the line and if you look at the intonation of the sporting code it is saying crossing, but we had a clarification in Turkey 2020 to avoid any discussions and if you look at the race director notes it indicates staying to the right.

"So, being on the line is breaching the race director notes and I think each single team has a duty and a task to follow the race director notes.

"So for us that is something unclear and we are still seeking clarification from the FIA and we will be happy to have as soon as possible our feedback."

But Horner told Sky Sports News: "It's disappointing that it's been protested.

"We believe the International Sporting Code is clear. He didn't go over the line, he was always in contact with the line.

"We've seen other precedents set, with other drivers in the past. If it was any more than even a reprimand, I'd be hugely disappointed in that. I really hope that common sense will prevail."

It seems both team bosses may have a point, with the race directors' notes stating that "drivers must keep to the right of the solid yellow line at the pit exit when leaving the pits and stay to the right of this line until it finishes after Turn 1".

But the International Sporting Code just says a tyre must not "cross" the yellow line.

Appendix L reads: "Any tyre of a car exiting the pit lane must not cross any line painted on the track at the pit exit for the purpose of separating cars leaving the pit lane from those on the track."

Appeal dismissed, tyre never crossed the line, only go over it.

[Kar_lover]

8 hours ago, Windwaver said:

Russell 5th again , Monaco is seriously boring.

Yesterday was their last race liao..... no new contract signed yet.... for whatever value u place on the "history/heritage" of Monaco, maybe it's becoming irrelevant now with so many new venues.... and I don't think there is much they can do to modify the track....and seems like there were not many support races yesterday (F2, etc). Even more reason not to continue.

[inlinesix]

This is an interest news

Ferrari: No chance of staying below current F1 $140m budget cap

Ferrari has admitted that there is no way it can keep to Formula 1’s current budget cap limit, as top teams now fear a spate of end-of-season penalties.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-no-chance-of-staying-below-current-f1-140m-budget-cap/10312239/

"Discussions have taken place with F1 and the FIA to try to come to some form of agreement to lift the budget cap limits, but not all teams are in favour of such a move.

Speaking ahead of the Monaco Grand Prix, Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto said that if the budget cap remains fixed at its current level, then his team would have no option but to bust it.

He reckoned Ferrari would then fall in to the remit of what is known as a ‘minor’ breach of the rules – so within 5 percent of the limit – of which there is no fixed penalty.

F1’s rule book states that minor breaches can include a public reprimand, loss of drivers’ and constructors’ points, suspension from events or a reduction in aero testing or future cost cap limits.

That means teams face uncertainty about whether or not overspending will materially affect their results on track.

Asked by Motorsport.com what will happen if the budget cap is not increased, Binotto said: “I think that there will be no way for us to stay below, so I am pretty sure at some stage we will go over.

“In the regulations, there is a threshold which is 5%, and if you do not exceed the 5% on top of what's the budget cap threshold, it could be considered a minor breach.

“How will they decide on that in terms of penalty, I have no idea.

“I don't think there is any way for us and for many teams to stay within, and even laying off people I don't think that's the right choice.

“It's already summertime, and the benefit is not sufficient to cope with the excessive prices and cost. So what will be the implications?

“What will be the most important is many teams will breach it and I think that will be simply bad for the financial regulations.

“If we are breaching the financial regulations, then I think we will start debating if the financial regulations are working, and it will put everything back in discussion.”"

[Windwaver]

28 minutes ago, Spidey10 said:

you can say that again!!....once you are stuck behind a slower car, that's it!! just look at the Alonso train, easily all the teams are behind him except for the top 6....

Hope they remove it and replace with another more interesting track.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/f1/news-f1-drivers-mixed-reactions-monaco-s-stay-f1-calendar

F1 drivers have mixed reactions to Monaco's stay on the F1 calendar

Ahead of the 2022 Monaco Grand Prix, several F1 drivers shared their reactions to the possibility of the historic race being removed from the race calendar in the near future.

While Max Verstappen claimed that it may be impractical to host races in Monaco with modern cars that are physically too large for the track, he admitted that the historic value of the circuit makes it "special." He said:

“Let’s say like this, I think if they would propose the plans nowadays with how the track layout is, probably it would not be on the calendar. But I think because of the historic value to it, and I mean…well, I think the amazing weekends we’ve had, you know, throughout the years, I think it belongs on the calendar. And of course, with the cars we have now, they’re a bit too big, a bit too long, a bit too heavy for the track layout, but it is something special. And I do think yeah, we should continue.”

Ferrari's Carlos Sainz agreed with the Dutchman and added:

“Agree. I think Monaco deserves anyhow to be on the F1 calendar. I think it’s a great place to come to. When you think about Formula 1, a lot of people think about Monaco. So yeah, it would be nice to put an overtaking place, I’m not going to lie. Like this the show could be a bit better on Sunday but even if not, I still think everyone knows a weekend here is about qualifying, around the pitstops. And everyone is already expecting that. So it’s not like we’re missing out in much.”

Mick Schumacher admitted that while he would like the Monaco GP to remain on the calendar, he would pick his home race in Germany over Monaco if it came to it. He said:

“Yeah, I think it definitely deserves to stay on the calendar. It’s a historical event. On the other hand, if we would exchange it for a German Grand Prix, obviously, I think we would take the German Grand Prix; at least, I would. But yeah, I think if you had both that would be great.”

With the Las Vegas Grand Prix being the third race to be heald in the US from next season onwards, rumors surrounding the removal of the Monaco GP from the F1 calendar have absolutely taken over the paddock.

Fernando Alonso claims the F1 Monaco GP "has to be in the calendar"

Two-time world champion Fernando Alonso agreed with the other drivers regarding the Monaco Grand Prix's place on the F1 calendar. The Spaniard admitted that it does not "make sense" to remove the prestigious race from the calendar.

He said:

“The same comments, but I think it has to be in the calendar. And I don’t see any reason why it should not be in the calendar. Because overtaking is difficult, it is difficult also in Singapore. It has been difficult in Barcelona, it has been difficult in Budapest, before DRS, you know, before 2011 or whatever, there were no overtakings in Budapest or in Barcelona or in Monaco, in Singapore, and they were not talks about, you know, removing those races in the calendar. So now there is a lot of talk, you know, with social media, how the world is, you need to talk constantly about things, you know, and random things and this is one thing that doesn’t make sense.”

[inlinesix]

1 minute ago, Kar_lover said:

Yesterday was their last race liao..... no new contract signed yet.... for whatever value u place on the "history/heritage" of Monaco, maybe it's becoming irrelevant now with so many new venues.... and I don't think there is much they can do to modify the track....and seems like there were not many support races yesterday (F2, etc). Even more reason not to continue.

There are talks of F1 rotate some venues in and out every year.

Monaco could appear every 2 years.

[Kar_lover]

5 minutes ago, Windwaver said:

Hope they remove it and replace with another more interesting track.

https://www.sportskeeda.com/f1/news-f1-drivers-mixed-reactions-monaco-s-stay-f1-calendar

F1 drivers have mixed reactions to Monaco's stay on the F1 calendar

Ahead of the 2022 Monaco Grand Prix, several F1 drivers shared their reactions to the possibility of the historic race being removed from the race calendar in the near future.

While Max Verstappen claimed that it may be impractical to host races in Monaco with modern cars that are physically too large for the track, he admitted that the historic value of the circuit makes it "special." He said:

“Let’s say like this, I think if they would propose the plans nowadays with how the track layout is, probably it would not be on the calendar. But I think because of the historic value to it, and I mean…well, I think the amazing weekends we’ve had, you know, throughout the years, I think it belongs on the calendar. And of course, with the cars we have now, they’re a bit too big, a bit too long, a bit too heavy for the track layout, but it is something special. And I do think yeah, we should continue.”

Ferrari's Carlos Sainz agreed with the Dutchman and added:

“Agree. I think Monaco deserves anyhow to be on the F1 calendar. I think it’s a great place to come to. When you think about Formula 1, a lot of people think about Monaco. So yeah, it would be nice to put an overtaking place, I’m not going to lie. Like this the show could be a bit better on Sunday but even if not, I still think everyone knows a weekend here is about qualifying, around the pitstops. And everyone is already expecting that. So it’s not like we’re missing out in much.”

Mick Schumacher admitted that while he would like the Monaco GP to remain on the calendar, he would pick his home race in Germany over Monaco if it came to it. He said:

“Yeah, I think it definitely deserves to stay on the calendar. It’s a historical event. On the other hand, if we would exchange it for a German Grand Prix, obviously, I think we would take the German Grand Prix; at least, I would. But yeah, I think if you had both that would be great.”

With the Las Vegas Grand Prix being the third race to be heald in the US from next season onwards, rumors surrounding the removal of the Monaco GP from the F1 calendar have absolutely taken over the paddock.

Fernando Alonso claims the F1 Monaco GP "has to be in the calendar"

Two-time world champion Fernando Alonso agreed with the other drivers regarding the Monaco Grand Prix's place on the F1 calendar. The Spaniard admitted that it does not "make sense" to remove the prestigious race from the calendar.

He said:

“The same comments, but I think it has to be in the calendar. And I don’t see any reason why it should not be in the calendar. Because overtaking is difficult, it is difficult also in Singapore. It has been difficult in Barcelona, it has been difficult in Budapest, before DRS, you know, before 2011 or whatever, there were no overtakings in Budapest or in Barcelona or in Monaco, in Singapore, and they were not talks about, you know, removing those races in the calendar. So now there is a lot of talk, you know, with social media, how the world is, you need to talk constantly about things, you know, and random things and this is one thing that doesn’t make sense.”

It's a head vs heart issue....i always prefer to follow my head, i don't trust my heart lol

[Blueray]

Unhappy Leclerc says Ferrari strategy was 'very wrong'

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sport/unhappy-leclerc-says-ferrari-strategy-was-very-wrong-2715186

[Windwaver]

16 minutes ago, Kar_lover said:

It's a head vs heart issue....i always prefer to follow my head, i don't trust my heart lol

Yeah, I think Singapore's a more interesting track and it'll be 'historic' once we hit 100 years? 

[inlinesix]

27 minutes ago, Blueray said:

Unhappy Leclerc says Ferrari strategy was 'very wrong'

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/sport/unhappy-leclerc-says-ferrari-strategy-was-very-wrong-2715186

Leclerc rarely behaves like this during post-race interview

 

[Wt_know]

obviously very tulan la .... who is not ....

well ... Forrest said ... shit happens !!!

Edited May 30, 2022 by Wt_know

[Kar_lover]

3 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Leclerc rarely behaves like this during post-race interview

 

Cos last time he was never in the running. This season, his expectations are different. Last week some people criticised Max anger at the DRS not working during the race. Last few days Charles was scolding the team over the radio during practice!! 

To be fair to lulu, he complains and whines a lot and over small things but at least he doesn't swear and curse vulgarities over the radio as far as i can remember.....

[Blueray]

7 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

Leclerc rarely behaves like this during post-race interview

 

monaco pole is almost a sure win ... end up 4th cos of the double stacked pit stop ... 

[Mooose]

4 hours ago, Blueray said:

monaco pole is almost a sure win ... end up 4th cos of the double stacked pit stop ... 

double stacked pit stop is just one of the errors - when they realised they double stacked, then told him to stay out, he was already in the pit lane, and from the footage off his car, shows he lost time while being slowed by CS55 pit stop ahead of his ..

also, ferrari timing to change from wets to inters was not good .. perez changed earlier and had the chance to go faster for a couple of laps before leclerc did the same, by which time, when he exited the pits, perez was already in front ..

they should have either covered him earlier to change from wets to inters the moment perez did that .. or continue the run on wets to change to slicks bypassing the inters .. much like what GR63 did ..

[Mooose]

5 hours ago, inlinesix said:

This is an interest news

Ferrari: No chance of staying below current F1 $140m budget cap

Ferrari has admitted that there is no way it can keep to Formula 1’s current budget cap limit, as top teams now fear a spate of end-of-season penalties.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/ferrari-no-chance-of-staying-below-current-f1-140m-budget-cap/10312239/

"Discussions have taken place with F1 and the FIA to try to come to some form of agreement to lift the budget cap limits, but not all teams are in favour of such a move.

Speaking ahead of the Monaco Grand Prix, Ferrari team principal Mattia Binotto said that if the budget cap remains fixed at its current level, then his team would have no option but to bust it.

He reckoned Ferrari would then fall in to the remit of what is known as a ‘minor’ breach of the rules – so within 5 percent of the limit – of which there is no fixed penalty.

F1’s rule book states that minor breaches can include a public reprimand, loss of drivers’ and constructors’ points, suspension from events or a reduction in aero testing or future cost cap limits.

That means teams face uncertainty about whether or not overspending will materially affect their results on track.

Asked by Motorsport.com what will happen if the budget cap is not increased, Binotto said: “I think that there will be no way for us to stay below, so I am pretty sure at some stage we will go over.

“In the regulations, there is a threshold which is 5%, and if you do not exceed the 5% on top of what's the budget cap threshold, it could be considered a minor breach.

“How will they decide on that in terms of penalty, I have no idea.

“I don't think there is any way for us and for many teams to stay within, and even laying off people I don't think that's the right choice.

“It's already summertime, and the benefit is not sufficient to cope with the excessive prices and cost. So what will be the implications?

“What will be the most important is many teams will breach it and I think that will be simply bad for the financial regulations.

“If we are breaching the financial regulations, then I think we will start debating if the financial regulations are working, and it will put everything back in discussion.”"

i read somewhere though now i cannot remember where, that repairs for car crashes are contributing to the increased spending ..