Under rated Mitsubishi Eclipse Cross 2022

[Watwheels]

Underrated? LoL...

That 1.5L turbo petrol engine is carried over from the Mitsubishi Colt of yester years and their cvt gb sourced from Jatco (a Nissan subsidary, plagued with cvt gb issues) . While you mentioned other cars as boring they actually have newer engine tech and gb tech. What you pay is what you get. Some of your comparison isnt apple vs apple as Harrier/RAV4  have an of OMV $29K-$30K, the Eclipse Cross is only $18K. Because of the old drive train and gb it is running on it is a far cry from the Toyota SUVs. 

Mitsubishi Motors scandals are well known. A company that is supposedly bankrupt eons ago and shouldnt have survive is brought together in a 3 way alliance. Only local car buyers see their cars as a gem. Only their FUSO trucks can sell.

The most recent scandal is the fuel-mileage scandal. Has it been resolved? It is anyone's guess.

Here's an interesting read.

https://phys.org/news/2018-11-mitsubishi-motors-scandal-hit-wheel-ghosn.html

Mitsubishi Motors is sometimes the forgotten partner in the three-way alliance with Nissan and Renault that dominates the global auto industry, but the Japanese firm has a colourful—and scandal-hit—history.

At an emergency board meeting later Monday, executives from the firm are expected to oust Carlos Ghosn as chairman following the tycoon's shock arrest a week ago on allegations of financial misconduct.

Here are some facts and background about the Japanese firm which employs around 31,000 people and whose products are sold in 160 countries.

 

Scandal follows scandal

Founded in 1970, the Tokyo-based firm has found itself on the brink of the scrap yard following massive corporate scandals.

In 2000, Mitsubishi Motors was forced to confess it had failed to inform the authorities about at least 64,000 customer complaints over faulty vehicles since 1977, opting to repair the vehicles itself instead of issuing costly model-wide recalls.

Four years later, the scandal broadened as it emerged the firm also covered up faults on 160,000 passenger cars and failed to declare a full recall.

The scandals had a major impact on Mitsubishi's domestic car sales and stock price, as trust in the firm was shattered.

Then, in 2016, another scandal broke: the firm had been cheating on fuel efficiency tests on cars for its home market for the past 25 years to make them appear more "green." This scandal affected hundreds of thousands of cars.

 

White knights

The series of scandals had a catastrophic effect on sales and the share price of Mitsubishi Motors and it was twice hauled from the verge of bankruptcy.

In 2004, the car firm was saved by the wider Mitsubishi group—including Mitsubishi Heavy Industries—one of Japan's biggest industrial conglomerates.

After an initial cash injection of 496 billion yen ($5.2 billion at the exchange rate of the time), three companies (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Mitsubishi Corp. and Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi) ploughed in a further 270 billion yen to keep the car firm afloat.

This gave the combined holding 34 percent of Mitsubishi Motors stock.

After the fuel-mileage scandal, who should ride to the rescue but Ghosn.

The businessman snapped up a 34-percent stake in the struggling Mitsubishi Motors at a cost of 237 billion yen and became chairman of the firm.

Recovery plan

Rather like Nissan, also saved by Ghosn from serious financial trouble, Mitsubishi's fortunes were revived after joining the three-way alliance with Renault.

In its most recent financial statement this month, it announced a gain of seven percent in first-half net profits compared to the same period the previous year. Operating profits jumped nearly 29 percent.

The recovery was led by a strong performance in Asia. It doubled sales in Indonesia and also sold well in Thailand and China.

Importantly, it also saw sales rebounding in the home market, suggesting the firm was beginning to rebuild consumers' trust after the scandals.

According to sales figures released earlier this month, Nissan was the best-selling firm in the alliance, selling 5.81 million cars last calendar year. Renault sold 3.76 million and Mitsubishi Motors 1.03 million.

For the fiscal year 2019—ending in March—Mitsubishi aims to sell 1.25 million cars producing a turnover of 2.4 trillion yen.

It projects a net profit over the fiscal year of 110 billion yen, a gain of 2.2 percent.

Edited February 4, 2022 by Watwheels

[Jaspok]

@ToyotaShuttle Tks for the help mate! Left hurriedly without checking 😓

[Jaspok]

@kobayashiGT Prob I’m the kind that prefers to drive a car that suits me then to overthink of resale value as long as it’s not a Korean or French car 

[Jaspok]

@Tkseah Outlander is 7 seater and 2.0 NA, EC is Coupe styled Crossover n 1.5T with a punchy torque

[Jaspok]

@Shibadog I believe the demographics and FC minded Sinkies has mostly got to do with that reason 😅. Not many Fortuners or 4x4 trucks around anyway unlike the 90s when diesel was dirt cheap

[Jaspok]

@shutterbox If u goggled the images that’s the DRL, headlights are at the bottom together with foglights (Style varient only)

[Jaspok]

@cashcow Paying $114K for India made Sonet or $143k Seltos doesn’t made sense. Test drove the Sonet no feel and interior is boring n cheap.

[Jaspok]

@cashcow @cashcow Paying $114K for India made Sonet or $143k Seltos doesn’t made sense. Test drove the Sonet no feel and interior is boring n cheap.

[Jaspok]

@Macrosszero Saab & MMC are very different structured companies and Saab still has a very strong parts support in EU & US. I used to drive a 95 and had a aluminium radiator shipped over within 2 weeks costing under $500.

With the recent alliance, if MMC can up their game on reliability (tarnished by VW & Ford-PSA sourced engine for the previous outlander) and their strength in SUVs (PHEVs) or succeed reviving Ralliart for unique sporty models, they can have a fighting chance.

MMC is pushing hard through the dealers in US, China, Taiwan and ANZ. Our market is too small for any impact but I’m glad to see their return after many years of the boring offerings.

[Jaspok]

@Thaiyotakamli Toyota has their manufacturing plant there so I’m not surprised they are untouchable in the Indo market, same in Thailand 

[Jaspok]

@Shibadog That’s what Scotty Kilmer advocates, the trick is to try not to fix what’s not broken and repackage it as a new model. Honestly I havnt seen Toyota innovate since the late 90s. Only recently some excitement comes from Gazoo Racing but u shld go test drive a $198K Harrier hybrid and find it’s worth in that kind of price BM is selling.

[Jaspok]

@Brass I correct myself, Forrester 2.0i is boring. MI no longer has the XT. Test drove the XT, just the cluttered dashboard goves me headache. The CVT gb is still as uninspiring and rubber band effect hasn’t changed.

Still loves my BL5 2.0R which corners at 100kmh easily and still climbs in the rev counter

Anyway my AR147 2.0TS never fails to get my adrenaline going at 6.5K rpm but always fails me on the Selespeed😫 

Edited February 4, 2022 by Jaspok

[Jaspok]

@Stratovarius IMHO, Mitsubishi listened to the 1st gen owner’s feedback on that rear twin hatch which hindered rear visibility and the design flow of a Coupe Cross. All the improvements on the 2022 EC came from the 1st gen criticism so kudos to the Jap listening and taking action.

Sedan and hatchbacks are no longer the key category and Mitsubishi is leveraging on their WRC and Offroad capabilities inputing into their CUV/SUV to compete. 

Seriously go test drive the new EC and U’ll know they don’t need any new techs like 4matic, quattro, 4motion to make u feel comfortable, confident and competent on the road (not off-road)

[Jaspok]

@StreamRSZ Erm is Honda design getting better with the new Civic or Vezel/HRV?

Design is to each his own so no offence mate 😊

I had a CRZ 1.5 hybrid before and that was the most beautiful Honda IMO but still pple criticized it till they DC 

[Jaspok]

@Watwheels 

4 hours ago, Watwheels said:

Underrated? LoL...

That 1.5L turbo petrol engine is carried over from the Mitsubishi Colt of yester years and their cvt gb sourced from Jatco (a Nissan subsidary, plagued with cvt gb issues) . While you mentioned other cars as boring they actually have newer engine tech and gb tech. What you pay is what you get. Some of your comparison isnt apple vs apple as Harrier/RAV4  have an of OMV $29K-$30K, the Eclipse Cross is only $18K. Because of the old drive train and gb it is running on it is a far cry from the Toyota SUVs. 

Mitsubishi Motors scandals are well known. A company that is supposedly bankrupt eons ago and shouldnt have survive is brought together in a 3 way alliance. Only local car buyers see their cars as a gem. Only their FUSO trucks can sell.

The most recent scandal is the fuel-mileage scandal. Has it been resolved? It is anyone's guess.

Here's an interesting read.

https://phys.org/news/2018-11-mitsubishi-motors-scandal-hit-wheel-ghosn.html

Mitsubishi Motors is sometimes the forgotten partner in the three-way alliance with Nissan and Renault that dominates the global auto industry, but the Japanese firm has a colourful—and scandal-hit—history.

At an emergency board meeting later Monday, executives from the firm are expected to oust Carlos Ghosn as chairman following the tycoon's shock arrest a week ago on allegations of financial misconduct.

Here are some facts and background about the Japanese firm which employs around 31,000 people and whose products are sold in 160 countries.

 

Scandal follows scandal

Founded in 1970, the Tokyo-based firm has found itself on the brink of the scrap yard following massive corporate scandals.

In 2000, Mitsubishi Motors was forced to confess it had failed to inform the authorities about at least 64,000 customer complaints over faulty vehicles since 1977, opting to repair the vehicles itself instead of issuing costly model-wide recalls.

Four years later, the scandal broadened as it emerged the firm also covered up faults on 160,000 passenger cars and failed to declare a full recall.

The scandals had a major impact on Mitsubishi's domestic car sales and stock price, as trust in the firm was shattered.

Then, in 2016, another scandal broke: the firm had been cheating on fuel efficiency tests on cars for its home market for the past 25 years to make them appear more "green." This scandal affected hundreds of thousands of cars.

 

White knights

The series of scandals had a catastrophic effect on sales and the share price of Mitsubishi Motors and it was twice hauled from the verge of bankruptcy.

In 2004, the car firm was saved by the wider Mitsubishi group—including Mitsubishi Heavy Industries—one of Japan's biggest industrial conglomerates.

After an initial cash injection of 496 billion yen ($5.2 billion at the exchange rate of the time), three companies (Mitsubishi Heavy Industries, Mitsubishi Corp. and Bank of Tokyo-Mitsubishi) ploughed in a further 270 billion yen to keep the car firm afloat.

This gave the combined holding 34 percent of Mitsubishi Motors stock.

After the fuel-mileage scandal, who should ride to the rescue but Ghosn.

The businessman snapped up a 34-percent stake in the struggling Mitsubishi Motors at a cost of 237 billion yen and became chairman of the firm.

Recovery plan

Rather like Nissan, also saved by Ghosn from serious financial trouble, Mitsubishi's fortunes were revived after joining the three-way alliance with Renault.

In its most recent financial statement this month, it announced a gain of seven percent in first-half net profits compared to the same period the previous year. Operating profits jumped nearly 29 percent.

The recovery was led by a strong performance in Asia. It doubled sales in Indonesia and also sold well in Thailand and China.

Importantly, it also saw sales rebounding in the home market, suggesting the firm was beginning to rebuild consumers' trust after the scandals.

According to sales figures released earlier this month, Nissan was the best-selling firm in the alliance, selling 5.81 million cars last calendar year. Renault sold 3.76 million and Mitsubishi Motors 1.03 million.

For the fiscal year 2019—ending in March—Mitsubishi aims to sell 1.25 million cars producing a turnover of 2.4 trillion yen.

It projects a net profit over the fiscal year of 110 billion yen, a gain of 2.2 percent.

Mate, I believe the 4B40 is an improved version of the 4A9 and I will rather take this dinosaur 4 cylinders over the current low power 3 cylinders on most CUVs. The DI and PI will save the headaches of carbon build up issues in most small turbo engines. Had my fair share in the A200, V40CC and A1 1.4TFSI(180bhp).

I’m comparing size, category and price here. OMV is only a guideline for depre calculation and not value comparison.

Appreciate yr education on Corporate scandals but are u telling me Toyota, Honda, VW, Mercs has no scandals of their own and we shldnt buy their cars based on that?

Anyway my point is EC is an under rated car locally due to many conservatives who hasn’t own or tried enough cars to not consider it.

Not looking for a debate here so dun be offende ya 😉

 

 

[QQDreamer]

2 hours ago, Jaspok said:

@StreamRSZ Erm is Honda design getting better with the new Civic or Vezel/HRV?

Design is to each his own so no offence mate 😊

I had a CRZ 1.5 hybrid before and that was the most beautiful Honda IMO but still pple criticized it till they DC 

i am not saying you cant buy thus car. what im commenting that mitsubishi still comes out ugly design as usual. nothing against your thread here or biased that nobody should buy mitsubishi cars. of cos each of their own. i see it as ugly you see it as beauty. No offence here too. Cheers

[Tkseah]

4 hours ago, Jaspok said:

@Tkseah Outlander is 7 seater and 2.0 NA, EC is Coupe styled Crossover n 1.5T with a punchy torque

At similar prices, to me the outlander seems better value for money.

[ER-3682]

Hmmmmm....Mitsubishi Cars...Find Jackie Chan,He can comment better,He is Hong Kong Spokesman for this Brand & His Sponsor for most of his Movies from the 90's...