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The reason noone (at least enthusiasts like me) take Mitsu seriously anymore is because they had a *great* (not merely good) platform in the Evo and they killed it. As in deliberately murdered to death. Voluntarily, no external pressure that I am aware of. And before they killed it off, they couldn't even let it go with full dignity intact, they insisted on mangling the 4G63 classic into the 4B11 for one single woebegone generation. For what, I also dunno. The Evo X is not a bad car (almost got one when it first came out and the future for the lineup looked brighter), but now I would get a IX over it any day. Real classic power. Cast iron block. Bulletproof. Rally heritage. Etc.

 

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Consider nowadays competitive market and technological advancement achieve by other respective manufacturers, the aging mitsubishi platform no longer worth the price to be paid.

As well as the active and passive safety system, interior finishing is now lack behind many other manufacturers as EC still stay behind as per earlier model.

This my personal opinion. 

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6 hours ago, Jaspok said:

 

Not looking for a debate here so dun be offende ya 😉

 

 

Justifying your purchase much?

I don’t see many Eclipses on the road, old or new.

I guess not many people share your view…… and it’s not about to change soon

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11 hours ago, Watwheels said:

 

Mitsubishi Motors scandals are well known. A company that is supposedly bankrupt eons ago and shouldnt have survive is brought together in a 3 way alliance. Only local car buyers see their cars as a gem. Only their FUSO trucks can sell.

 

FUSO already snapped up by Daimler after they had scandal. Mitsu is only left with passenger cars

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17 hours ago, Shibadog said:

too bad they didn't bring in the Pajero Sport here. Cousin of the Triton.

sort of like Fortuner to Hilux and Everest to Ranger

barebone workhorses

Rented the Pajero Sport (7 seater SUV version of Triton) in Phuket before. Yeah I think comparable to Fortuner for normal use.

But in Thailand and Malaysia Hilux and Fortuner are kings there. In fact my Malaysia relatives (in agriculture business) don't use the term "pick-up" when they talk about such types of cars - they generically describe it as "Hilux"

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7 hours ago, Jaspok said:

@Watwheels 

Mate, I believe the 4B40 is an improved version of the 4A9 and I will rather take this dinosaur 4 cylinders over the current low power 3 cylinders on most CUVs. The DI and PI will save the headaches of carbon build up issues in most small turbo engines. Had my fair share in the A200, V40CC and A1 1.4TFSI(180bhp).

I’m comparing size, category and price here. OMV is only a guideline for depre calculation and not value comparison.

Appreciate yr education on Corporate scandals but are u telling me Toyota, Honda, VW, Mercs has no scandals of their own and we shldnt buy their cars based on that?

Anyway my point is EC is an under rated car locally due to many conservatives who hasn’t own or tried enough cars to not consider it.

Not looking for a debate here so dun be offende ya 😉

 

 

Bro, I think you are honest and sincere in your opinions. Unfrotunately, Mitsu is in some ways a "has-been' brand in SG. Don't get me wrong, I have driven before Lancer in the 90s - used to be my fav brand then.

But most other brands have left them behind in last 20 years.

EC is sort-of good buy because they have to price it lower to move a similar or superior equipped unit compared to the big Jap or Korean boys. Most important is that you like and enjoy it, which you most probably will.

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23 hours ago, Jaspok said:

Recently booked the 2022 Eclipse Cross after not owning a brand new car since 2006.

This car is seriously under rated locally due to the 1st gen having an unconventional 2 piece rear glass hatch and the long absence of Mitsubishi since the last Evo X, Lancer EX models.

Those looking for a value, quality build (MIJ), stylish and spacious CUV should consider test driving this before the boring Vezel/HRV, XV/Forrester, Harrier/RAV4 or even the Conti Crossovers like Q2, X1, GLA. With 163hp/250nm, it easily surpasses most offerings in the same segment with the classic variant and it's still a 4 cylinder Turbo as compared to the struggling 3 cylinders.

It does have flaws like no auto tailgate, halogen bulbs, missing autofold mirrors, no auto lock, CVT gearbox (simulated gear changes quite realistic though), smaller boot space (due to coupe hatch styling), FCM (caused quite a bit of problem in 1st gen), 16" wheels and basic 7" Sony HU. Resale value definitely will be lower than Toyota/Honda/BMW/Mercs but it only has an OMV of 18K and vehicle price of 45K max (before COE). 

So far my passengers have been impressed with the cabin space, minimalist layout and quality leather (locally fitted) seats. Ride quality and well insulated doors made the journey rather pleasant like a Conti make. 

As a driver, though never an advocate of the CVT gearbox the high torque pushes the 1.5 ton on every acceleration and smooths out the climb to 90km/h without your realization. Only at 100km/h will u start hearing some wind noises from the big, wide side mirrors. Bump absorption has been pretty good on the EC almost to Lexus quality but maintains a sporty feel when doing bends and corners. There were body rolls for sure due to the high CG but the rigidity of the GS tuned to JS platform kept everything intact.

Here's a Taiwan review of it's light off-road capability, sorry it's in Chinese 😛


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Hope there'll be more interest in this model as it's still a Mitsubishi thorough bred before the Renault-Nissan platforms becomes the base of future models. 

 

Your passengers and yourself felt so impressed by your new car could partly be because you have been driving old car since 2006.  Also depending on what old car you have been driving, if your previous car was a small car, then your passengers will be impressed by a new  car which is bigger.  I am not saying Eclipse is not good but not to the extent of under-rated.  I have been driving COE car , any new car like a vios will make me feel wow😃😃

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2 hours ago, Turboflat4 said:

The reason noone (at least enthusiasts like me) take Mitsu seriously anymore is because they had a *great* (not merely good) platform in the Evo and they killed it. As in deliberately murdered to death. Voluntarily, no external pressure that I am aware of. And before they killed it off, they couldn't even let it go with full dignity intact, they insisted on mangling the 4G63 classic into the 4B11 for one single woebegone generation. For what, I also dunno. The Evo X is not a bad car (almost got one when it first came out and the future for the lineup looked brighter), but now I would get a IX over it any day. Real classic power. Cast iron block. Bulletproof. Rally heritage. Etc.

 

The one and only reason Mit killed off the evo is money. This is the same for the rest of the Japanese manufacturers where they slowly kill off their sports car lineup. like the new supra is only able to materialized with a joint venture with BMW. 

Enthusiasts do not make up the majority of their sales and people now, those young ones in particular are no longer into performance cars like we used to in the 90s. Gone are the days where they slap in the 4G63T into the airtrek, one of my favourite sleeper cars. 

8 hours ago, Jaspok said:

@Stratovarius IMHO, Mitsubishi listened to the 1st gen owner’s feedback on that rear twin hatch which hindered rear visibility and the design flow of a Coupe Cross. All the improvements on the 2022 EC came from the 1st gen criticism so kudos to the Jap listening and taking action.

Sedan and hatchbacks are no longer the key category and Mitsubishi is leveraging on their WRC and Offroad capabilities inputing into their CUV/SUV to compete. 

Seriously go test drive the new EC and U’ll know they don’t need any new techs like 4matic, quattro, 4motion to make u feel comfortable, confident and competent on the road (not off-road)

Design aside, i think the EC is a good car. It is priced competitively as well. I do think it is an underrated car as there are not much units on the road. I just feel that they can gain more traction in sales if the external design is better, esp the front. But this is just me. i just prefer cars with traditional  headlights kind of things.

 

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10 hours ago, Jaspok said:

@kobayashiGT Prob I’m the kind that prefers to drive a car that suits me then to overthink of resale value as long as it’s not a Korean or French car 

Korean car technology are way ahead Mitsubishi. 

Not sure what you are talking.

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10 hours ago, Jaspok said:

@cashcow @cashcow Paying $114K for India made Sonet or $143k Seltos doesn’t made sense. Test drove the Sonet no feel and interior is boring n cheap.

Didn't test-drive Sonet or Seltos or any MII cars at Kia; so can agree with you.

Previously tested the Outlander but decided to pass.

Was investigating Kia Niro hybrid, Hyundai Kona hybrid and another 2 Jap options recently.

To each his own since beauty is in the eyes of each beholder.

[Too shy to say which "boring" car I finally opted btw, but for sure I can confirm that I did not book the "under-rated" but exciting EC.......lol]

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People already buy his Eclipse Cross 

and you all poo poo his ride.

Its called pissing on his chips!

:D

So many people have so low EQ skills.

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3 hours ago, t0y0ta said:

Rented the Pajero Sport (7 seater SUV version of Triton) in Phuket before. Yeah I think comparable to Fortuner for normal use.

But in Thailand and Malaysia Hilux and Fortuner are kings there. In fact my Malaysia relatives (in agriculture business) don't use the term "pick-up" when they talk about such types of cars - they generically describe it as "Hilux"

Fortuner, Pajero Sport and Everest all abt the same to me. In fact i think the individual spec is probably more important than the actual model, as some are only FWD, some are 4WD, some are petrol while some are diesel. GB also hv AT vs MT. Then some are available as 7 seater but the older Pajero Sport is 5 seater. 

i've been a passenger in or driven all three, but hard to compare as all were not same spec. All not in SG. On rough roads and dirt track too. Haven't look into details such as which has locking diffs and stuff like that. But the manual ones i had experience with all have dual range gearboxes. 

The malaysians probably generalise all as hai-lark 😂

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If you had booked it, just wait for it and enjoy the ride that you paid with your money.

No need trying to justify it and want confirmation bias by peeps here. 😁

I also drive my dad Attrage, people here also said it’s a crap car but so be it lor. 🤣

At least got a transport to get around and bring my mum for medical appt, etc.

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2 hours ago, Jamesc said:

People already buy his Eclipse Cross 

and you all poo poo his ride.

Its called pissing on his chips!

:D

So many people have so low EQ skills.

The good thing about MCFers is that we are truthful, we wont perfome a pig, just like when a MIL is no good  we will never say she is good.

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Bottom line here is that to each his own la.

But TS you start stirring here with comments on certain boring cars and you'll expect to get some flak for sure, especially when many would disagree that EC is less boring, with its non-revolutionary drivetrain and interior. 

The EC is a step up over past generation mitsubishis, I wouldn't disagree.. but to call the ride lexus-like, conti-like, would be too much of a stretch.

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