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Do you agree with the reasoning put up by gov.sg?  

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23 minutes ago, Karoon said:

Back to office, I decided to take public transport...

1. Journey to work:  bus from home bus stop -> Main bus to town 

2. Lunch :  Go to preferred makan place 3 bus stops away and back

3. Journey home: Mrt -> bus to home

1. $3

2. $2 

3. $3

It was eye-opening, top up $10 the day before, end of 1 working day it already gave low value warning at mrt exit. With all the waiting time, I'll stick to driving. 

With mytransport app, you can reduce your bus waiting time.

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1 hour ago, Karoon said:

Back to office, I decided to take public transport...

1. Journey to work:  bus from home bus stop -> Main bus to town 

2. Lunch :  Go to preferred makan place 3 bus stops away and back

3. Journey home: Mrt -> bus to home

1. $3

2. $2 

3. $3

It was eye-opening, top up $10 the day before, end of 1 working day it already gave low value warning at mrt exit. With all the waiting time, I'll stick to driving. 

Ya, taking public transport to work indeed save more than driving to work, esp if need to pay parking at workplace, paying for some of the season parking already can kill you. Lol. But har, with all the long waiting time wasted in waiting for public transport also can kill you lo. So if choose between the worse from the worse, i rather choose to drive. 😅

 

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6 hours ago, inlinesix said:

With mytransport app, you can reduce your bus waiting time.

That's true. But if u are not blessed with a direct bus, there's still more waiting.

 

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23 hours ago, Windwaver said:

We all work so hard because it's expensive!

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/jail-pest-control-technician-who-refused-swab-test-mc-he-wanted-s100-work-incentive-2442271

Jail for pest control technician who refused swab test, MC as he wanted S$100 work incentive

SINGAPORE: A pest control technician who suffered from a cough for three weeks went to a doctor and was told to take a COVID-19 swab test and stay home during the period of his medical leave.

However, the 60-year-old man refused to do so, telling the doctor he would have to forfeit a S$100 work incentive from his company if he took medical leave.

He continued to work the next day and went on job calls at five locations, including at a police station.

A Rahim M Taha was jailed for five weeks on Tuesday (Jan 18). He pleaded guilty to one count of exposing others to the risk of infection of COVID-19 under the Infectious Diseases Act.

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 Ok I applaud her. 👏👏👏

This must be the most sensible quote she said as SEP in 2022.

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/case-of-man-who-refused-covid-19-test-to-earn-extra-100-shows-why-workers-need-to-be-paid-better-president-halimah

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22 hours ago, inlinesix said:

With mytransport app, you can reduce your bus waiting time.

 

16 hours ago, Karoon said:

That's true. But if u are not blessed with a direct bus, there's still more waiting.

 

mytransport app is good when you are leaving from your house/office, cause you can control the time you walk to the bus-stop. But if i am taking MRT and need to change to bus, this one difficult to control, since sometimes by the time i walk to bus stop from MRT, might missed the bus and needs to wait for another 10 mins plus for next bus.

Whether got direct bus or not, i find taking bus always need to spend many waiting time, since bus interval averagely at least 10 mins.

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9 minutes ago, 13177 said:

 

 

mytransport app is good when you are leaving from your house/office, cause you can control the time you walk to the bus-stop. But if i am taking MRT and need to change to bus, this one difficult to control, since sometimes by the time i walk to bus stop from MRT, might missed the bus and needs to wait for another 10 mins plus for next bus.

Whether got direct bus or not, i find taking bus always need to spend many waiting time, since bus interval averagely at least 10 mins.

Yup. And my other issue is the way buses are routed these days. Last time there were feeder buses, go interchange, and take main bus that ply major routes.

Nowadays, you take one bus that app says will take you direct to your destination 15km away. But after half hour in the bus, its only 2 mrt stops away from your boarding place because it went round and round the estate, like a greedy pacman that wants to eat all the pebbles on all paths, maximise commuters. So, you end up doing all kinds of mrt and bus combinations to save time. And if you transfer bus interchange-> mrt station, you'll be soaking wet in sweat because you'll likely walk a long distance in our humidity.

Change mrt-mrt? There is a big train station in Paris where 10 Metro and intercity trains meet.Chatelet. I feel i'm walking longer making mrt transfers on our lines. 

So not only is public transport not cheap, but also inefficient. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Karoon said:

Yup. And my other issue is the way buses are routed these days. Last time there were feeder buses, go interchange, and take main bus that ply major routes.

Nowadays, you take one bus that app says will take you direct to your destination 15km away. But after half hour in the bus, its only 2 mrt stops away from your boarding place because it went round and round the estate, like a greedy pacman that wants to eat all the pebbles on all paths, maximise commuters. So, you end up doing all kinds of mrt and bus combinations to save time. And if you transfer bus interchange-> mrt station, you'll be soaking wet in sweat because you'll likely walk a long distance in our humidity.

Change mrt-mrt? There is a big train station in Paris where 10 Metro and intercity trains meet.Chatelet. I feel i'm walking longer making mrt transfers on our lines. 

So not only is public transport not cheap, but also inefficient. 

 

 

Quite true that the so called direct buses to your destination usually went round and round to maximise commuters, really waste lots of time not only in waiting for the bus and also time spend on the bus. And if i sit in the bus that went round and round, confirmed will trigger my motion sickness with long distance with the stopping and jerking on the bus. [sweatdrop]  Even though many people would still find our public transport is very good compared to other countries la.

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On 1/20/2022 at 11:46 AM, Karoon said:

Back to office, I decided to take public transport...

1. Journey to work:  bus from home bus stop -> Main bus to town 

2. Lunch :  Go to preferred makan place 3 bus stops away and back

3. Journey home: Mrt -> bus to home

1. $3

2. $2 

3. $3

It was eye-opening, top up $10 the day before, end of 1 working day it already gave low value warning at mrt exit. With all the waiting time, I'll stick to driving. 

Yeah, so WFO is much better for the economy :grin:

 

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3 hours ago, 13177 said:

mytransport app is good when you are leaving from your house/office, cause you can control the time you walk to the bus-stop. But if i am taking MRT and need to change to bus, this one difficult to control, since sometimes by the time i walk to bus stop from MRT, might missed the bus and needs to wait for another 10 mins plus for next bus.

Whether got direct bus or not, i find taking bus always need to spend many waiting time, since bus interval averagely at least 10 mins.

I have MRT right at my doorstep (almost). Usually I skipped bus.

The only time I take bus is I am lazy to walk to DTL station.

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6 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

I have MRT right at my doorstep (almost). Usually I skipped bus.

The only time I take bus is I am lazy to walk to DTL station.

I'm three bus stops away from DTL with loads of buses that, mostly, I can get anywhere i need to, directly.

Bus is cheaper than MRT but takes longer, but can usually get a seat and if not then at least after everybody gets off at MRT. The new green snail buses are slow on-board, and worse when in the car behind them. Overall, the system is pretty good and not so expensive - if I remember, the cheapest ticket on the Tube is like GBP4.

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24 minutes ago, Atonchia said:

 

The research funding isn't quite a small amount.😅

Making SG a liveable and sustainable city.....

I think all these not going to make SG more affordable 😂

https://www.todayonline.com/singapore/s66m-set-aside-explore-ways-make-spore-more-liveable-including-using-space-underground-and-sea-1958031

No need lah. We just buy over sri lanka lah. Then we have bigger land.

The ex president is in SG right? hahaha. Ask him open a price lah. hahahahaha. 

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2 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said:

No need lah. We just buy over sri lanka lah. Then we have bigger land.

The ex president is in SG right? hahaha. Ask him open a price lah. hahahahaha. 

He probably said "I'll take the $66m".

 

Then we can build a bridge there? 

Probably going to cost $6B just on research 😅

Think by boat and plane will be more economical....

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31 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said:

No need lah. We just buy over sri lanka lah. Then we have bigger land.

The ex president is in SG right? hahaha. Ask him open a price lah. hahahahaha. 

What do we do with 22m ppl on the island now?

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3 hours ago, inlinesix said:

What do we do with 22m ppl on the island now?

Great question! 😁

Industrialised all major agriculture or aquaculture sectors. Take over 80% of small-scale independent business into co-operative. 

Expand tea plantation...Plant more tea.... Ceylon tea.

Expand seafood industry....Export more seafood.... especially crabs😂

Take over all major industries with GLCs. 

Invest in commercial, hospitality properties.... upgrade tourism sector. 

Make it a tax haven and allow financial sector to flourish, pulling funds from South Asia and Indochina. 

Develop public housing 

Develop private residential for those in middle income group from these different industries and sectors. 

Open the lower cost labour (but skilled labour) to SG. 😂😂

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14 hours ago, inlinesix said:

What do we do with 22m ppl on the island now?

good question. :grin:

We outsource lor. Who need to build skyscraper we will be there. 😎

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4 minutes ago, mikk123 said:

we should buy a piece of Australia. They have too much empty land and We buy a piece use it as backup. What if one day someone wants to attack us, where do we run to? 

Aust will sell us their outback.

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