2022 4th Generation Toyota Noah & Voxy

[Carbon82]

They look huge, getting closer to Alphard and Vellfire.

The twin will be unveiled in Japan in Jan 2022. Stay tuned. 

[Soya]

Looks the same ugly bah

PHV drivers rejoice!

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by Soya

[Hamburger]

Koreans are better with design. Jap is too conservative. 

[Ct3833]

28 minutes ago, Hamburger said:

Koreans are better with design. Jap is too conservative. 

they can be conservative but there is no need to design an embarrassingly ugly looking MPV.

 

2 hours ago, Carbon82 said:

They look huge, getting closer to Alphard and Vellfire.

The twin will be unveiled in Japan in Jan 2022. Stay tuned. 

they better upgrade the engine if they are making the car any bigger.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Ct3833

[Hamburger]

1 hour ago, Ct3833 said:

they can be conservative but there is no need to design an embarrassingly ugly looking MPV.

 

they better upgrade the engine if they are making the car any bigger.

Ugly yes but utilitarian, a yes too. 

I have a friend who drives a 4 wheel fridge stepwagon, the interior space put my suv to shame. 

[Thaiyotakamli]

Sometimes confused whether its facelift or new gen lol

[inlinesix]

8 hours ago, Ct3833 said:

they better upgrade the engine if they are making the car any bigger.

Likely move to Dynamic Force 2L

and retain 1.8L Hybrid 

Edited December 10, 2021 by inlinesix

[Carbon82]

In all fairness, there's little Toyota and the other Japanese manufacturers can do about the design, since they need to fulfil the 1,695mm width requirements in order to enjoy the tax incentive. So they can only play with length and height to maximise the interior space.

Engine wise, I fully agree that it should be Turbo, Hybrid or even Electric to move the large van at a more comfortable pace. I concur with @Hamburger comment that the interior space put many full size MPV and 7 seater SUV to shame. Beside that, Toyota should also work on improving the built quality. All except Alphard and Vellfire still feel pretty van-like once you open/close the doors or sliding the seat forward/backward... 

[Kopites]

19 minutes ago, Carbon82 said:

In all fairness, there's little Toyota and the other Japanese manufacturers can do about the design, since they need to fulfil the 1,695mm width requirements in order to enjoy the tax incentive. So they can only play with length and height to maximise the interior space.

Engine wise, I fully agree that it should be Turbo, Hybrid or even Electric to move the large van at a more comfortable pace. I concur with @Hamburger comment that the interior space put many full size MPV and 7 seater SUV to shame. Beside that, Toyota should also work on improving the built quality. All except Alphard and Vellfire still feel pretty van-like once you open/close the doors or sliding the seat forward/backward... 

Large van!

Look like a small size minibus. 😁

[DOBIEMKZ]

7 hours ago, Hamburger said:

Ugly yes but utilitarian, a yes too. 

I have a friend who drives a 4 wheel fridge stepwagon, the interior space put my suv to shame. 

But in terms of handling and drivability your SUV will put the Stepwagon (or Noah/Voxy/Esquire, Vellfire/Alphard etc) to shame.

[Soya]

2 hours ago, inlinesix said:

Likely move to Dynamic Force 2L

and retain 1.8L Hybrid 

No diff. I test drove their 2.5L "dynamic force' hybrid......ermm, no comment.

 

[inlinesix]

2 hours ago, Soya said:

No diff. I test drove their 2.5L "dynamic force' hybrid......ermm, no comment.

You drive turbo car 1 le. Of course no feel.

For Alphard, I drove 3.5L. It is the best engine for Alphard.

[lexiton]

looks really fugly

 

Alphard better

[Soya]

6 hours ago, inlinesix said:

You drive turbo car 1 le. Of course no feel.

For Alphard, I drove 3.5L. It is the best engine for Alphard.

No lah. What I mean is no matter how good they design the engine oso no use. The weakest link is the CVT. Lots of noise without lots of progress and juz makes the car feel unrefined

 

[inlinesix]

25 minutes ago, Soya said:

No lah. What I mean is no matter how good they design the engine oso no use. The weakest link is the CVT. Lots of noise without lots of progress and juz makes the car feel unrefined

That means you have to try ES250.

Driving CVT needs patience which I don’t have.

 

Edited December 10, 2021 by inlinesix

[Thaiyotakamli]

16 hours ago, lexiton said:

looks really fugly

 

Alphard better

If u say alphard more ugly 

then who will pay more for alphard😂

[t0y0ta]

For those criticising Toyota on design and engine, do remember this is for JDM market and they have significant restrictions on size and width to meet certain car class.

Also, this sells like hotcakes (similarly Alphard/Vellfire are best-sellers there) in Japan so whatever crap design they doing, it is definitely working for their pockets.

[Mkl22]

11 hours ago, Soya said:

No lah. What I mean is no matter how good they design the engine oso no use. The weakest link is the CVT. Lots of noise without lots of progress and juz makes the car feel unrefined

 

Too bad no rav4 prime here. It’s also a cvt gearbox. With 5.5sec, can tia majority of the cars on the road and still save more fuel. 
can also go off road. As a true sport utility I think it beats almost all competitors. 

Edited December 11, 2021 by Mkl22