6 men, allegedly insurance claims specialists, appear out of nowhere along PIE after accident

[macrosszero]

1 minute ago, noobcarbuyer said:

But you did accuse me of being on the payroll or MCF or Sgcarmart right? 

Following which, you insinuated that I have 2 other accounts doing whatever it is that you aren't happy about. 

And finally, you proceeded to request that only genuine users are allowed to start new threads. 

Naturally, I would take offense at that. 

And now you are claiming the right to express your opinion. Which you sought to prevent myself, as a fellow forum user, from doing so when I started this thread to begin with.

Bro, you gotta be clear about your stand.

I didn’t say you have two other accounts, I said two other accounts do the same thing. If you want to take offence, then I’m not above apologizing that I lumped you together with their ilk. Sorry.

All these things are requests and opinions, if you wish to see them as limiting your freedoms of speaking, so do you of mine.

If you want to continue taking offence, I simply shall not respond anymore.

[inlinesix]

32 minutes ago, mikk123 said:

who ah? i also don't know. Have or don't have don't make any differences.... look at how messy it is on the road, sports car, lorry, car, e-scooter and bicycle all over the places... COE is out dated and running away.... Oh right....as long as they are paid, everything is fine. Looking forward to friday!!! yahooooo! 

On the road, it is TP.

On pavement, it is LTA.

 

[Ody_2004]

24 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

On the road, it is TP.

On pavement, it is LTA.

 

No wonder so hard to catch cyclist ad they are either on road or pavement when they ride! 🤣🤣🤣

[Lethalstrike]

And it's no wonder why insurance are climbing even after full NCD. 

Same as tampering with Odometer. 

Does the government in power wants to do something about such ah-beng practices rampant in this industry? 

[yellowshaun]

Since we are this topic. Another "claims specialist" got reported!

P.s. Do note the company is probably not AP Automotive as stated, likely that's the used car seller's company on the number plate :)

[yellowshaun]

Also to be on the lookout for is the infamous yellow fit that recently accident with a bus... Also magically appear that accidents offering "help"

 

[Atonchia]

On 9/23/2021 at 6:40 PM, Fitvip said:

This is nothing new. My former mechanic told me that some workshop near his place even used BUs (female) to stage accidents. I wonder why this scam is still not resolved.

Easy. 

All not dead cannot claim 3rd party. 

Cannot claim unless have total and permanent disability. 

Injury must have laceration or fractures. 

 

No more 100%  claim. 

Maximum 60/40%

Raise all expressway speed to 110kmph..... 

See if these cheats dare to play their stunts or not.

😅😅😅

[Ceecookie]

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https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/courts-crime/occupants-of-yellow-honda-and-black-audi-under-probe-for-touting-harassment?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR2ZeYbWZUUBE9h0RfMzBA0uuSZ_gSdkmnH313NleDiRbxzjIjm9Q-fW3Y0

A video seen by ST shows the black Audi weaving quickly in and out of traffic on at least four occasions, said to be between Sept 14 and Sept 18.

The driver has been arrested for dangerous driving and is also being investigated for other offences of dangerous driving. These alleged offences were captured in social media postings, added the police.

He has also been suspended from driving.

 

Good news! Next is to go after the workshops that they collude with.

Remember not to do business with these fly by night beng workshops. Blacklist the specific address as they may simply close down and open up as a new name.

if any of these touts try to get your business outside, call 999 at once!

 

[Ct3833]

1 hour ago, Ceecookie said:

 

Good news! Next is to go after the workshops that they collude with.

Remember not to do business with these fly by night beng workshops. Blacklist the specific address as they may simply close down and open up as a new name.

if any of these touts try to get your business outside, call 999 at once!

 

Good news must share with MCFers.😀😀

Thank you !

Edited October 7, 2021 by Ct3833

[lexiton]

2 hours ago, Ceecookie said:

 

Good news! Next is to go after the workshops that they collude with.

Remember not to do business with these fly by night beng workshops. Blacklist the specific address as they may simply close down and open up as a new name.

if any of these touts try to get your business outside, call 999 at once!

 

how come xing chen working for 2 company?

[Achtung]

On 10/7/2021 at 11:03 PM, lexiton said:

how come xing chen working for 2 company?

Broker mar.

Now Broken. Should change company from Equator Brotherhood to Brokeback Brothers

[cmcex]

I am neutral.

These people making a living also, but 5-7 workshop touts at once over a small accident? Exaggerating if you ask me. Who you wanna scare?

Basically they make a referral when referring 3rd party claims cases to workshop and also referral fee for injury claims.

Nothing wrong with letting them repair the car against 3rd party claims, since 3rd party claims has the liberty to go any workshop you like unlike OD claims.

Either you use their service or you don’t use, its that simple only. I dunno why are there even scams mentioned, you don’t pay a single cent out of pocket when claiming against 3rd party, what scam? Workshop raise the estimates of repairs and 3rd party insurance will then negotiate based on age of vehicle, degree of damage and liability. What scams are there? If end up a 50/50 case based on BOLA, workshop at times lose $ also. Worst when some insurers make payment to the owner direct and not the workshop, end up owner don’t wanna pay the workshop back. 

In my opinion there is always 2 sides to a coin, live and let live 🙂

[Kopites]

4 hours ago, cmcex said:

I am neutral.

These people making a living also, but 5-7 workshop touts at once over a small accident? Exaggerating if you ask me. Who you wanna scare?

Basically they make a referral when referring 3rd party claims cases to workshop and also referral fee for injury claims.

Nothing wrong with letting them repair the car against 3rd party claims, since 3rd party claims has the liberty to go any workshop you like unlike OD claims.

Either you use their service or you don’t use, its that simple only. I dunno why are there even scams mentioned, you don’t pay a single cent out of pocket when claiming against 3rd party, what scam? Workshop raise the estimates of repairs and 3rd party insurance will then negotiate based on age of vehicle, degree of damage and liability. What scams are there? If end up a 50/50 case based on BOLA, workshop at times lose $ also. Worst when some insurers make payment to the owner direct and not the workshop, end up owner don’t wanna pay the workshop back. 

In my opinion there is always 2 sides to a coin, live and let live 🙂

Workshop under such scheme would never repair the car at it lowest(reasonable) costs.  

Probably you have yet to get into any accident in your driving record.

Keep it that way and  be careful on the road for those theatrically colluded accident. 😁

 

 

[cmcex]

@Kopites 

7 hours ago, Kopites said:

Workshop under such scheme would never repair the car at it lowest(reasonable) costs.  

Probably you have yet to get into any accident in your driving record.

Keep it that way and  be careful on the road for those theatrically colluded accident. 😁

 

 

Workshop under OD schemes will never be able to reasonably repair the car as insurance will ask for repair instead of replace, even more so from one notorious insurer who goes by bidding of OD repairs.

3rd party workshops, on the other hand can raise amount and fight against the insurance using lawyers to claim and challenge liability. Whether or not they win or lose or liability less than 80% its up to the court to say if goes to court. 

Have you met with accidents before then? So who do u send ur car to when u r claiming against 3rd party? You might say u only send to workshop u trust, what about those who don’t have workshops contacts? Those who visits petrol station workshops to do servicing? These u call them touts are basically promoting their service. Even you send to agent, they will also sub out to outside workshop to do, max to max agent supply parts only. Outside workshop normally use OEM parts (subject to the claims, is it part by part or lump sum repair) when comes to repair and sometimes is not they don’t wanna replace but adjusters recommended repair. 

I had my fair share of accidents when younger and more reckless, now I am holding 55% NCD and happy with it and wanna keep it that way.

All I can say is, still, live and let live. Just imagine u r involved in an accident, injured and bleeding, most Singapore drivers just slow down drive past and watch, that’s where u hope “touts” appear and help call ambulance and make sure you are safe, doesn’t matter u use their service or not.

[Kopites]

52 minutes ago, cmcex said:

@Kopites 

Workshop under OD schemes will never be able to reasonably repair the car as insurance will ask for repair instead of replace, even more so from one notorious insurer who goes by bidding of OD repairs.

3rd party workshops, on the other hand can raise amount and fight against the insurance using lawyers to claim and challenge liability. Whether or not they win or lose or liability less than 80% its up to the court to say if goes to court. 

Have you met with accidents before then? So who do u send ur car to when u r claiming against 3rd party? You might say u only send to workshop u trust, what about those who don’t have workshops contacts? Those who visits petrol station workshops to do servicing? These u call them touts are basically promoting their service. Even you send to agent, they will also sub out to outside workshop to do, max to max agent supply parts only. Outside workshop normally use OEM parts (subject to the claims, is it part by part or lump sum repair) when comes to repair and sometimes is not they don’t wanna replace but adjusters recommended repair. 

I had my fair share of accidents when younger and more reckless, now I am holding 55% NCD and happy with it and wanna keep it that way.

All I can say is, still, live and let live. Just imagine u r involved in an accident, injured and bleeding, most Singapore drivers just slow down drive past and watch, that’s where u hope “touts” appear and help call ambulance and make sure you are safe, doesn’t matter u use their service or not.

Correct me I am wrong.

If someone opted for 3rd party claims from start he can't subsequently revert it back to OD. Right?

My view is pte settle otherwise let the insurance coy handle all the repairs/paperwork. Too much of hassle if one is not well equip to deal with workshop repairs.

 

[Cheesey74]

14 hours ago, cmcex said:

I am neutral.

These people making a living also, but 5-7 workshop touts at once over a small accident? Exaggerating if you ask me. Who you wanna scare?

Basically they make a referral when referring 3rd party claims cases to workshop and also referral fee for injury claims.

Nothing wrong with letting them repair the car against 3rd party claims, since 3rd party claims has the liberty to go any workshop you like unlike OD claims.

Either you use their service or you don’t use, its that simple only. I dunno why are there even scams mentioned, you don’t pay a single cent out of pocket when claiming against 3rd party, what scam? Workshop raise the estimates of repairs and 3rd party insurance will then negotiate based on age of vehicle, degree of damage and liability. What scams are there? If end up a 50/50 case based on BOLA, workshop at times lose $ also. Worst when some insurers make payment to the owner direct and not the workshop, end up owner don’t wanna pay the workshop back. 

In my opinion there is always 2 sides to a coin, live and let live 🙂

Huh.... 🤔

[Cheesey74]

Call me biased but i won't be surprise these so called Claims Consultant are also involved in other shady automotive deal like stage accidents or inflated accident injury claims, again call me biased.. wahaha.

[Ct3833]

24 minutes ago, Cheesey74 said:

Call me biased but i won't be surprise these so called Claims Consultant are also involved in other shady automotive deal like stage accidents or inflated accident injury claims, again call me biased.. wahaha.

and the first car stage the accident, the 2nd car rushing to the rescue.