Anyone encountered problematic motorists at roundabouts?

[thatJDMahboy]

51 minutes ago, DOBIEMKZ said:

I also find that right-turn arrows are better than drivers' discretion.

Sometimes when in amber light situation at junctions using discretionary right turn, those who want to turn right assumed that opposite traffic would stop whereas those opposite direction traffic proceeding straight assumed that those turning right would give way.

In the end both parties made wrong assumptions and bang bang. 

Yup, the amber light is the "grey area" for those at the discretionary right turn and for those from the opposite traffic. For me, even though it's amber light, I won't go ahead. I will still wait for the green arrow to light up before proceeding. Safety comes first 🙂 

 

[13177]

2 hours ago, thatJDMahboy said:

Yup, maybe it's time for some changes to the traffic regulations in Singapore. Installation of traffic lights at the roundabout is a good idea. 

Also, this reminds me of discretionary right turn junctions - I really hate those junctions because it poses as a huge hazard. But I have observed that more of these discretionary right turns are being converted to green arrow turns and that makes me glad 🙂 

Sometimes it is not about the traffic lights at the roundabouts, it is drivers do not know how to drive on the correct lane to exit from the roundabout. Many drivers drive at the wrong lane and exit without realizing they are in the wrong lane and might cause accident.

Dont say at the roundabouts, even on normal roads, some drivers also anyhow. Example there are two lanes at a traffic junction, extreme left lane is turn left only, and lane 2 is go straight and turn left. But some kuku driver drives on the extreme left lane go straight at the junction, so cars on the next lane turning left would hit on the car liao. I just saw this happened yesterday on a road.

[13177]

1 hour ago, Ct3833 said:

wen approaching and when in the roudabout, dont rush. go slow and steady. If not exiting, dont take the left most lane, if one is exiting the roundabout,  dont use the 2nd left lane, that should keep one out of trouble 90% of the time.  If unable to filter to the left becuase there are cars on the left, skip the exit and make another round, this is unlikely to happen but be prepared for it . dont try to force yoursef through. 

Nowadays drivers if missed their exit, they would still die die also must exit from that exit de, cannot make another round or drive to the next exit. I always see drivers missed their left exit and can just stop their car in the middle of the road, and trying to change lane to the exit when there are many cars coming from behind.

[thatJDMahboy]

11 minutes ago, 13177 said:

Sometimes it is not about the traffic lights at the roundabouts, it is drivers do not know how to drive on the correct lane to exit from the roundabout. Many drivers drive at the wrong lane and exit without realizing they are in the wrong lane and might cause accident.

Dont say at the roundabouts, even on normal roads, some drivers also anyhow. Example there are two lanes at a traffic junction, extreme left lane is turn left only, and lane 2 is go straight and turn left. But some kuku driver drives on the extreme left lane go straight at the junction, so cars on the next lane turning left would hit on the car liao. I just saw this happened yesterday on a road.

Yup. Traffic lights at roundabouts may provide a better form of guidance to motorists, but it still boils down to the driver. Especially now with so many car-sharing options available for "experienced" drivers to use, you never know what will happen next. 

I used the term "experienced" because these drivers possessed a driving license since the date of issue, but they hardly drive during those "years of experience". 

[thatJDMahboy]

11 minutes ago, 13177 said:

Nowadays drivers if missed their exit, they would still die die also must exit from that exit de, cannot make another round or drive to the next exit. I always see drivers missed their left exit and can just stop their car in the middle of the road, and trying to change lane to the exit when there are many cars coming from behind.

Ya ikr? I totally understand where you are coming from (refer to the article below). The driver miss the exit, but die die wanna reverse to exit.

 

[Jamesc]

If motorcycle go on yellow I turn.

If truck goes on yellow I always stop.

[kr_mcf]

This is crazy era, stupid driver do not follow the rules, change the rules and add traffic light but not install camera and fine the driver..truly Singapore :)

[Volvobrick]

3 hours ago, thatJDMahboy said:

Yup, maybe it's time for some changes to the traffic regulations in Singapore. Installation of traffic lights at the roundabout is a good idea. 

Also, this reminds me of discretionary right turn junctions - I really hate those junctions because it poses as a huge hazard. But I have observed that more of these discretionary right turns are being converted to green arrow turns and that makes me glad 🙂 

Maybe you should consider not to drive if you can't handle circus and right turns..... 

For both your own and our sake. 

[Volvobrick]

55 minutes ago, 13177 said:

Sometimes it is not about the traffic lights at the roundabouts, it is drivers do not know how to drive on the correct lane to exit from the roundabout. Many drivers drive at the wrong lane and exit without realizing they are in the wrong lane and might cause accident.

Dont say at the roundabouts, even on normal roads, some drivers also anyhow. Example there are two lanes at a traffic junction, extreme left lane is turn left only, and lane 2 is go straight and turn left. But some kuku driver drives on the extreme left lane go straight at the junction, so cars on the next lane turning left would hit on the car liao. I just saw this happened yesterday on a road.

Should remove these idiots from the road. TP amd the courts are too lenient to traffic offenders, and blur c@ck drivers.

[PSP415]

1 hour ago, thatJDMahboy said:

Got a feeling many motorists that take the left-most lane are also those that lack confidence in roundabouts. 

And yes, 100% agreed that no one should "force" themselves to exit the roundabout - Just take your time and make another round if the exit is missed. 👍

Haha... I can imagine those who lacked confidence will go round and round the circle until a kind soul took pity and slow down for him/her to exit correctly. 

Personally I love going round in circle. Only ONCE and yes, 100% must be alert and speed up if there's a way to and exit from correct lane.

Too slow, you get cut off by those in wrong lane, going straight instead of exiting. Too fast, you can meet the Kan Cheong spider die die must cut you off from exiting. 

Correct signal is helpful. These days, hardly see any signalling so it's tricky as one need to either have strong telepathic ability or make a guess what the idiot infront wants to do. 😅😂

Stay safe all 

Cheers 

Edited August 16, 2021 by PSP415

[thatJDMahboy]

2 hours ago, Volvobrick said:

Maybe you should consider not to drive if you can't handle circus and right turns..... 

For both your own and our sake. 

LOLL I didn't say I couldn't handle it, I merely stated that discretionary right turns are hazardous. 

Going by what you say, I guess every MP and those at LTA should not drive 😥 
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/remove-discretionary-right-turns-road-traffic-act-869766

Maybe do yourself a favour and think before you comment next time!

[Jamesc]

If people don't want to hear different views

why start a new thread?

And no need to insult people gracious enough to post here

as narrow minded.

[Volvobrick]

2 hours ago, PSP415 said:

Haha... I can imagine those who lacked confidence will go round and round the circle until a kind soul took pity and slow down for him/her to exit correctly. 

Personally I love going round in circle. Only ONCE and yes, 100% must be alert and speed up if there's a way to and exit from correct lane.

Too slow, you get cut off by those in wrong lane, going straight instead of exiting. Too fast, you can meet the Kan Cheong spider die die must cut you off from exiting. 

Correct signal is helpful. These days, hardly see any signalling so it's tricky as one need to either have strong telepathic ability or make a guess what the idiot infront wants to do. 😅😂

Stay safe all 

Cheers 

Nothing beats the Arch de Triumph one.... Could be lost in there for days! 

Drove there before, and am glad to report I didn't go for more than 1 round! 

 

[Volvobrick]

1 hour ago, thatJDMahboy said:

LOLL I didn't say I couldn't handle it, I merely stated that discretionary right turns are hazardous. 

Going by what you say, I guess every MP and those at LTA should not drive 😥 
https://www.channelnewsasia.com/singapore/remove-discretionary-right-turns-road-traffic-act-869766

Maybe do yourself a favour and think before you comment next time!

Looking at some road/junction designs and conditions, I don't think those at LTA drive.

[Heartbreakid]

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Edited August 16, 2021 by Heartbreakid

[Heartbreakid]

7 hours ago, 13177 said:

Have to extra careful when in roundabout. There was once nearly got an accident when the car on lane 2 exit from lane 2.

Yup, I encountered one like this few years back and that ignorant driver still honked me when he was in the wrong.

[Stary]

roundabout sure got many patterns from drivers one....

Just need to be careful and give and take to any drivers who are rookies, reckless or clueless.  No point being angry or anything.  Being  angry will only distract you further from the driving.

End of the day, we just want to reach home not just safely but happily. 

 

Edited August 16, 2021 by Starry

[13177]

4 hours ago, thatJDMahboy said:

Yup. Traffic lights at roundabouts may provide a better form of guidance to motorists, but it still boils down to the driver. Especially now with so many car-sharing options available for "experienced" drivers to use, you never know what will happen next. 

I used the term "experienced" because these drivers possessed a driving license since the date of issue, but they hardly drive during those "years of experience". 

Nowadays many people have a driving licence but hardly drive or dont drive at all.