COVID-19: Phase 2 Heightened Alert 16 May to 13 June

[Philipkee]

7 hours ago, Heartlander said:

Despite all these, only 3 ICU cases. 

My opinion is that ICU cases should always be kept to a minimum.  It's not like other industries where maybe you operate at 80%  max capacity and leave 20% buffer. Cos for ICU, sometimes there is no warning time and when a bed is needed, the bed is needed immediately.  No time to prepare.  

And this is something I learned from my days in the hospital but might not be relevant here so take it with salt if you must.

https://www.ncid.sg/Facilities-Services/Pages/default.aspx

You are assuming that NCID ICU beds are solely for covid-19 cases.  I don't know.  I only know that life doesn't come to a standstill just because of covid-19.   Other infectious diseases still go happen.  So it's always better to have a reserve.

Example. I was attached to a burns ward once.  Then one senior remarked that even during situations like Bali bombing, where cases were flooding into Singapore,  there were still fires in Singapore and all that and you have to be careful not to fill up your ward unnecessarily cos the normal cases dont stop just because something happened overseas.

[Fcw75]

10 minutes ago, Weez911 said:

Don't gong LJ wei. How much tax do you pay (do you guys even pay tax?)? Are you going to support those jobless due to the CB and pandemic closures with your own money? Are you going to pay those business owners whose businesses have been affected? Are you going to chip in your time at our hospitals to help the doctors and nurses? Are you going to spend your time helping those doing contact tracing? 

I.G.N.O.R.E

[Fcw75]

15 minutes ago, Yewheng said:

26th may.. so -7 days is 19th may. So haven't start counted.

Moving average same?

Edited May 14, 2021 by Fcw75

[Scion]

9 hours ago, Heartlander said:

If you just pause to look at the statistic published on the MOH website, only 3 in ICU now despite all the doomsday scenario painted by a few here. Relax abit lah. I will panic only when those vaccinated start getting the severe symptoms and those warded in ICU faces sharp increase. The big difference from a year ago is we have the vaccines now which is still effective even for the mutated virus. Just be responsible and do your part can already.

You can choose to live your life base on facts or fear mongering. Is your life.

oh only 3 in ICU... so are we going to praise the govt for a job well done?

[Fcw75]

Booster shot = $$$ for Pfizer and Moderna.

[Heartlander]

12 minutes ago, Weez911 said:

Don't gong LJ wei. How much tax do you pay (do you guys even pay tax?)? Are you going to support those jobless due to the CB and pandemic closures with your own money? Are you going to pay those business owners whose businesses have been affected? Are you going to chip in your time at our hospitals to help the doctors and nurses? Are you going to spend your time helping those doing contact tracing? 

I think I better talk less since I am definitely paying lesser tax than you do. Really has our society evolved into such that if I pay more tax, people will look up to me more and respect my view more? Good thing reality is abit different. Our dear Kumar once joked that when a husband tried to tell his wife off that she can't cook well despite spending many hrs watching cooking videos, she replied why he watch so much porn videos yet bit good at it.

I will take it that you are not guilty of gjw yourself if you have done all that you mentioned. And I will clap for you really if you do.

[Chongster]

The list of places visited by covid patient is completely useless now.  They might as well have a list of places not visited by covid patients 

[Heartlander]

20 minutes ago, Philipkee said:

My opinion is that ICU cases should always be kept to a minimum.  It's not like other industries where maybe you operate at 80%  max capacity and leave 20% buffer. Cos for ICU, sometimes there is no warning time and when a bed is needed, the bed is needed immediately.  No time to prepare.  

And this is something I learned from my days in the hospital but might not be relevant here so take it with salt if you must.

https://www.ncid.sg/Facilities-Services/Pages/default.aspx

You are assuming that NCID ICU beds are solely for covid-19 cases.  I don't know.  I only know that life doesn't come to a standstill just because of covid-19.   Other infectious diseases still go happen.  So it's always better to have a reserve.

Example. I was attached to a burns ward once.  Then one senior remarked that even during situations like Bali bombing, where cases were flooding into Singapore,  there were still fires in Singapore and all that and you have to be careful not to fill up your ward unnecessarily cos the normal cases dont stop just because something happened overseas.

I understand this reserve thing perfectly. Thanks for reminding all. 

But now I am simply highlighting that the situation is not as dire as what some here painted, using the 3 ICU bed occupancy rate as an evidence 

[Kyrios]

5 minutes ago, Heartlander said:

I understand this reserve thing perfectly. Thanks for reminding all. 

But now I am simply highlighting that the situation is not as dire as what some here painted, using the 3 ICU bed occupancy rate as an evidence 

Boss....dun count your chickens before they are hatched is all I can say...still early in the game...for the virus to toy with us...

The optimism here reminds me of the 1999 Bayern Vs Man U - UCL game.....Bayern leading by 1 goal for much of the 90minutes....that is until...injury time....the rest is of course history..

Sometimes peepur can get overly conceited..as our leeders do...then concede late own goal...

Edited May 14, 2021 by Kyrios

[inlinesix]

31 minutes ago, Philipkee said:

My opinion is that ICU cases should always be kept to a minimum.  It's not like other industries where maybe you operate at 80%  max capacity and leave 20% buffer. Cos for ICU, sometimes there is no warning time and when a bed is needed, the bed is needed immediately.  No time to prepare.  

And this is something I learned from my days in the hospital but might not be relevant here so take it with salt if you must.

https://www.ncid.sg/Facilities-Services/Pages/default.aspx

You are assuming that NCID ICU beds are solely for covid-19 cases.  I don't know.  I only know that life doesn't come to a standstill just because of covid-19.   Other infectious diseases still go happen.  So it's always better to have a reserve.

Example. I was attached to a burns ward once.  Then one senior remarked that even during situations like Bali bombing, where cases were flooding into Singapore,  there were still fires in Singapore and all that and you have to be careful not to fill up your ward unnecessarily cos the normal cases dont stop just because something happened overseas.

There is no ICU bed solely for COVID19.  Accordingly, ICU cases have to be kept to a bare minimum.

In addition, NCID has 300+ isolation ward.  These wards are not solely for COVID19.

[Ender]

Koped from HWZ. 2 students from Kong Hwa kenna. Compared to the OG variant where very few children kenna, this new variants infected a number of students in such a short time.

[inlinesix]

7 hours ago, Hubwee said:

Tot we have stopped those short term visit pass ? How come still have case 63123 who is here to visit his PR family member ....

He came in before we stop those passes or ??? 

He is a contact of 4 other cases.

The oldest is 62,254 who is confirmed on April 22.

The newest is 62,785 who is confirmed on May 2.  Symptom onset date: April 27.

Without all these 4 cases, case 63,123 will not be detected.

My deduction is that he came in before the restriction date.

[Blueray]

48 minutes ago, Chongster said:

The list of places visited by covid patient is completely useless now.  They might as well have a list of places not visited by covid patients 

St John, Kusu, Ubin etc still not on the list. 

Task force never learn .... Covid is airborne and asymptomatic. 

[Carbon82]

Students at another 2 schools affected! Total 5 schools till date (for the current wave)...

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/realtime/singapore/story20210514-1146669

I am fully supportive of CB2.0 (for say 1 month), to prevent further spread in the community.

All the half past 6 WFH, headcount restriction, advices to minimise outing, etc. are useless. Feel free to quote my post as I know what I am talking about and will not mince my words.

[Beanoyip]

Are we closer to the point where there's a 4pm announcement, that begins with MY FELLOW SINGAPOREANS

[Sdf4786k]

1 hour ago, Scion said:

oh only 3 in ICU... so are we going to praise the govt for a job well done?

I think they have done “ok” but they could have done better , like taking an example from Hk on travel bubble restrictions and tweak it for inbound passengers to Singapore.. for every out of control situations, increasing the quarrtine period both side by one week.

it may be a bit more extreme but probably would have reduced the number of super spreader .. 

but what do I know.. making useless observations is like telling the person riding the donkey to get off on the donkey because being an animal right activists ,all animal should be treated with respect.,

I believe the authorities has done reasonably well , by not having COVID transmissions via the food chain or by grab delivery 

Edited May 14, 2021 by Sdf4786k

[Sosaria]

31 minutes ago, Ender said:

Koped from HWZ. 2 students from Kong Hwa kenna. Compared to the OG variant where very few children kenna, this new variants infected a number of students in such a short time.

 

Suddenly a bunch of students infected. Were they all infected from household members, or in the past day, as I recall, some are due to the private tutor positive case? (assuming the kids attend the same private class)

Think this is something that they should look at closely, and maybe put a pause to it : tuition and enrichment classes, bearing in mind that children are not vaccinated, and some of these classes are in small shop spaces, indoors and air-conditioned. It's not as regulated as, say, MOE schools.

[Fcw75]

2 hours ago, Carbon82 said:

Students at another 2 schools affected! Total 5 schools till date (for the current wave)...

https://www.zaobao.com.sg/realtime/singapore/story20210514-1146669

I am fully supportive of CB2.0 (for say 1 month), to prevent further spread in the community.

All the half past 6 WFH, headcount restriction, advices to minimise outing, etc. are useless. Feel free to quote my post as I know what I am talking about and will not mince my words.

What will happen to Shangri-La Dialogue?