rickylah 1st Gear May 8, 2021 Share May 8, 2021 anyone went from a cheaper DSP amp to a better DSP amp and felt the difference/improvement? music source will be play from HU (z9250bt), RCA out -> DSP amp -> speakers. (no intention to add seperate amp due to space constraint). why i asking is because even casting songs with spotify to my home system (pioneer sc-lx AVR), sound so much better than my car audio, with spotify music. Its just not as clear. i guess the HU and speakers is good enough. Using Zapco st4x DSP AMP, so wondering if this DSP amp is hindering any improvement. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freeder Hypersonic May 8, 2021 Share May 8, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 5:00 AM, rickylah said: anyone went from a cheaper DSP amp to a better DSP amp and felt the difference/improvement? music source will be play from HU (z9250bt), RCA out -> DSP amp -> speakers. (no intention to add seperate amp due to space constraint). why i asking is because even casting songs with spotify to my home system (pioneer sc-lx AVR), sound so much better than my car audio, with spotify music. Its just not as clear. i guess the HU and speakers is good enough. Using Zapco st4x DSP AMP, so wondering if this DSP amp is hindering any improvement. Expand Look for Ken @8777 6444. He’s da MAN for all these gadgets.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Meemee 5th Gear May 9, 2021 Share May 9, 2021 Did you had tuning session To ensure time alignment and cross over setting Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator May 10, 2021 Share May 10, 2021 On 5/8/2021 at 5:00 AM, rickylah said: anyone went from a cheaper DSP amp to a better DSP amp and felt the difference/improvement? music source will be play from HU (z9250bt), RCA out -> DSP amp -> speakers. (no intention to add seperate amp due to space constraint). why i asking is because even casting songs with spotify to my home system (pioneer sc-lx AVR), sound so much better than my car audio, with spotify music. Its just not as clear. i guess the HU and speakers is good enough. Using Zapco st4x DSP AMP, so wondering if this DSP amp is hindering any improvement. Expand I think it will still make a difference. @Meemee make a point. You should try tuning first. It will also make a difference. The zapco st4x look pretty decent, if you ever wanna upgrade, you can sell that to me! 🤣 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rickylah 1st Gear May 11, 2021 Author Share May 11, 2021 Lol yes definitely has the tuning done by shop. But finer tuning I'm still playing with it myself. Zapco cheap dsp do has its limitation. Phrase is only 2 setting, 0 or 180. And TA has to enter the number, can't press up or down click, so quite hard to do minor adjustment while u listen for changes. But gotta say for eq tuning definitely is quite good, can adjust specific frequency and the spread. But other than this, wonder if sound will improved with a higher end dsp amp. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator May 11, 2021 Share May 11, 2021 On 5/11/2021 at 4:04 AM, rickylah said: Lol yes definitely has the tuning done by shop. But finer tuning I'm still playing with it myself. Zapco cheap dsp do has its limitation. Phrase is only 2 setting, 0 or 180. And TA has to enter the number, can't press up or down click, so quite hard to do minor adjustment while u listen for changes. But gotta say for eq tuning definitely is quite good, can adjust specific frequency and the spread. But other than this, wonder if sound will improved with a higher end dsp amp. Expand Amp definetly help with the sound production. So yeah. I think it will helps. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarong1 1st Gear June 8, 2021 Share June 8, 2021 @rickylah How are you using the phase feature? How will 0 and 180 phase change the sound? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshie888 Neutral Newbie June 21, 2021 Share June 21, 2021 Sorry to hijack thread. Need help. Recently installed DSP-Amp and 2-way component speakers up front. DSP-Amp has Bluetooth. Found that sound is much better when I play via DSP-Amp than factory HU, both using phone and Bluetooth. Unfortunately, this means factory headunit is not being used when I play my music collection from my phone. This means I can't control everything via the steering wheel since my phone is not connecting via the headunit. Is there any way to integrate a 3rd party DSP-Amp into factory headunit at all? It's really a hassle when I lose the ability to control my phone music tracks using my steering wheel. Have to constantly look at my phone to manoeuvre tracks on the phone :(( Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator June 21, 2021 Share June 21, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 5:39 AM, freshie888 said: Sorry to hijack thread. Need help. Recently installed DSP-Amp and 2-way component speakers up front. DSP-Amp has Bluetooth. Found that sound is much better when I play via DSP-Amp than factory HU, both using phone and Bluetooth. Unfortunately, this means factory headunit is not being used when I play my music collection from my phone. This means I can't control everything via the steering wheel since my phone is not connecting via the headunit. Is there any way to integrate a 3rd party DSP-Amp into factory headunit at all? It's really a hassle when I lose the ability to control my phone music tracks using my steering wheel. Have to constantly look at my phone to manoeuvre tracks on the phone :(( Expand erm. I think is possible. but is not via Bluetooth but thur outputs. so when you are playing your FM radio via your factory headunit, the sound should come via ur DSP then speaker. Instead of speaker directly. then you should enjoy your new should with your factory headunit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshie888 Neutral Newbie June 21, 2021 Share June 21, 2021 Thanks for this. Radio is ok actually. It is my MP3 collection on my phone that I'm having trouble. When I play my MP3 collection, I play it through the DSP via Bluetooth. The DSP doesn't integrate with headunit. Hence I lose the steering wheel control eg changing tracks, increasing volume. Wondering if there's a way around this? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator June 21, 2021 Share June 21, 2021 On 6/21/2021 at 9:02 AM, freshie888 said: Thanks for this. Radio is ok actually. It is my MP3 collection on my phone that I'm having trouble. When I play my MP3 collection, I play it through the DSP via Bluetooth. The DSP doesn't integrate with headunit. Hence I lose the steering wheel control eg changing tracks, increasing volume. Wondering if there's a way around this? Expand You headunit have bluetooth in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
freshie888 Neutral Newbie June 23, 2021 Share June 23, 2021 Yes, HU has Bluetooth. Sound quality for beaming via Bluetooth to HU is much poorer than if I were to beam via Bluetooth to the DSP. So I beam directly to DSP. The downside is that since it's not integrated into the HU, all the steering wheel controls are gone... Hence looking for advise on whether the DSP can be successfully integrated into HU, such that when I beam to the DSP, I retain control of the steering wheel controls eg volume, change tracks. Right now, because it's not integrated, I have to control via phone, which is a hassle when driving... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator June 23, 2021 Share June 23, 2021 On 6/23/2021 at 2:48 AM, freshie888 said: Yes, HU has Bluetooth. Sound quality for beaming via Bluetooth to HU is much poorer than if I were to beam via Bluetooth to the DSP. So I beam directly to DSP. The downside is that since it's not integrated into the HU, all the steering wheel controls are gone... Hence looking for advise on whether the DSP can be successfully integrated into HU, such that when I beam to the DSP, I retain control of the steering wheel controls eg volume, change tracks. Right now, because it's not integrated, I have to control via phone, which is a hassle when driving... Expand I am not very sure, but I am thinking that the DSP is not connected to your headunit. Only when you toggle to Aux and you use ur DSP, it is being used as the source. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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