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Now waiting for this yaya papaya to come out say "thank you" to Singapore.

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I hope that the Western powers will think twice about selling them things like submarine to them.

Buy the subs but never buy the whole package, come and use ours. Cheapo Indo govt.

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Nolicense

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22 minutes ago, Watwheels said:

Now waiting for this yaya papaya to come out say "thank you" to Singapore.

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I hope that the Western powers will think twice about selling them things like submarine to them.

Buy the subs but never buy the whole package, come and use ours. Cheapo Indo govt.

i am thinking, this is similar to the Boeing 737 Max MCAS thing where they opted not to buy the option of the disagree light of the angle of attack and the additional air speed sensor which was faulty.

https://www.theverge.com/2019/3/22/18275736/boeing-737-max-plane-crashes-grounded-problems-info-details-explained-reasons#B10ojB

these optional add ons are lucrative sales. just like add ons for car.. leather seats, upgrade rims.. and air bags and speedometer! joking.. but you get the point.

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4 hours ago, Beregond said:

but frankly speaking a 40 years old sub break into 3 pcs,

unless there are critical weapon inside like nuke warhead, there is really no point salvaging it??

unless want to recover the body to give the family a 交代

not sure about it... but politically they must at least try.

maybe religious requirement too??

 

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5 hours ago, Adrianli said:

Yup. Submarine rescue vessel unable to do salvage. Swift Rescue can RTB (Return to Base).

Indo has experience with salvage work, remember that aircraft that went into the sea? I remember seeing their salvage vessels carried out the retrieval of the aeroplane blackbox and aeroplane parts. To fully salvage the entire submarine, they will need to engage a salvage company and it will cost quite a lot since it is in pretty good depth down.

Don't think its practical. That plane was in quite shallow waters of 20m. This sub is 800m down.

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Just like those who likes deep sea fishing.  [cool]

Anyone (mostly new members) who mention will the boat capside in the deep sea will get f* by the rest of us (season anglers) ....  [furious]

This type of thingy have to 'pang-tang' by hook or by crook  :darkmood:

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there are talks of lack of proper maintenance for the sub. ( no officals report )

road vehicle breakdown can call for tow trucks, even ships can call tug boat.

but planes and sub the maintenance must be 100% , any thing happen u drop from the sky or sink to the btm of the sea. 

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3 minutes ago, Beregond said:

there are talks of lack of proper maintenance for the sub. ( no officals report )

road vehicle breakdown can call for tow trucks, even ships can call tug boat.

but planes and sub the maintenance must be 100% , any thing happen u drop from the sky or sink to the btm of the sea. 

You also mean our north neighbour sub ..... [lipsrsealed]

Can sink but don't know can re-float again .... :secret-laugh:

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22 hours ago, Picnic06-Biante15 said:

Just like those who likes deep sea fishing.  [cool]

Anyone (mostly new members) who mention will the boat capside in the deep sea will get f* by the rest of us (season anglers) ....  [furious]

This type of thingy have to 'pang-tang' by hook or by crook  :darkmood:

There is something which some of us mind as well...that is not to wear white shoes during the fishing trip. :D

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57 minutes ago, Beregond said:

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/strong-underwater-wave-may-have-caused-indonesian-submarine-to-sink-navy-says?utm_campaign=stfb&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook&fbclid=IwAR1xTTLoLgqU7Mu0qBZH_1cHdYIAjPFp1KEI4wVSJzNnRrDrvqBclgnFfrE

Strong underwater wave may have caused Indonesian submarine to sink, navy says??

i dun really believe this

We hear about air turbulence, and airplane experiencing a drop when flying thru an air pocket. But this is the 1st time I heard of sub not able to handle "underwater wave". 

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The sunken KRI Nanggala-402 submarine now has become story telling such as Moby dick, or Colossal squid attack. The KRI 402 submarine tragedy has turned commodities for writers to earn big money $$$ now

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43 minutes ago, Didu said:

We hear about air turbulence, and airplane experiencing a drop when flying thru an air pocket. But this is the 1st time I heard of sub not able to handle "underwater wave". 

If there are underwater currents, there also underwater waves...

Saw a documentary at Discovery Channel, the waves are not like the surface waves up to 1 meter high but about 15 to 40 meters size waves beneath 600m under the sea.

Sometimes when we see the current on the surface moves in one direction but beneath it, the current could be in opposite direction. The surface current is cause by strong wind blowing in one direction and the beneath current is the earth spinning in opposite direction.    

That explain sometimes, we can see water swirl in the sea where 2 opposite currents met and hit a pocket causing the spinning. Doing deep sea fishing will sometimes meet such incidents and an experience boatmen would steer away from the swirl  [sweatdrop] . The swirl won't last very long but enough to make your b*lls :wacko: 

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34 minutes ago, Didu said:

We hear about air turbulence, and airplane experiencing a drop when flying thru an air pocket. But this is the 1st time I heard of sub not able to handle "underwater wave". 

Sure there is. You often hear divers talk about deep sea currents that is able to push them far out to sea.

Indonesia is made of thousands of islands and if these strong currents are push between the narrow gaps of the islands it can cause a lot of turbulence. It is possible that the sub's power got knock out by it.

Just look at the ocean conveyor belt.

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I guess it is one of the many possibilities that they do not wish to rule out.

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Blueray

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my understanding is ocean has unseen powerful waves due to variance in temperature and density.

but whether its apparent at say 300m (say the sub's operating depth) and enough to cause a sub to sink I dunno.

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