2022 Toyota bZ4X

[Acegab]

5 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

In term of efficiency, it might be losing to Tesla Model Y.

204ps. 144 - 167wh/km

Tesla Model Y: 562ps. 171wh/km.

Not to mention the Tesla Model Y before the 4680 cells

[Fellows]

On sale in Taiwan soon.

 

[Fellows]

 

[Fellows]

 

[Yongwd]

Yoke steering is damn cool! BZYX is steer by wire

 

 

[t0y0ta]

On 5/1/2022 at 3:48 PM, Acegab said:

You are looking at the top spec which will probably cost a bomb

The higher the spec the lower the range... cos of added weight and resistance

The longest range is the model with only FWD, no pano roof and smallest sports rims

[inlinesix]

 

[therock]

 

No rear wipers ???
No glove compartment??? 

But it still looks lovely...
Maybe you can install an underseat box.. 

Wonder how much is it landed... 

 

[therock]

 

 

[inlinesix]

 

[Actan72]

On 4/20/2021 at 12:12 AM, Carbon82 said:

Another EV to many of us, but it's the first in a series of zero emission battery electric vehicles (BEVs) from Toyota. And it will be on sales from mid of next year. Toyota fans rejoice!  

Toyota bZ4X Concept is the first model to feature Toyota's new bZ - beyond Zero - naming convention. By 2025, Toyota aims to introduce 15 battery electric vehicles, including 7 Toyota bZ models. The 'bZ' is an acronym for 'beyond Zero', reinforcing Toyota's commitment to not only achieving zero carbon emissions and carbon neutrality, but also going beyond to realise new benefits for the environment, for individuals and for society as a whole.

The bZ4X Concept, a medium-size SUV with all-wheel drive, is integral to Toyota's transition from a pure car company to a business dedicated to delivering better mobility for all. It was developed by Toyota Motor Corporation in partnership with Subaru Corporation, drawing on the specific skills and experience of each company. Sales of the production version are expected to commence around the middle of 2022.

Toyota bZ4X Concept will be available with a world-first combination of a steering yoke and a steer-by-wire system. This technology gives the driver greater control, removing interference from rough road surfaces and braking, thereby giving a more precise response in line with the vehicle's speed and steering angle. Steer-by-wire also dispenses with the traditional, circular steering wheel, replacing it with a uniquely shaped steering yoke which eliminates the need for the driver to move their hands around the wheel as they make a turn, adding to the car's fun-to-drive quality.

Knight rider steering wheel

[kusur]

Thanks nice info sir

i like it

 

https://bit.ly/36TYc8b

[Carbon82]

New electric car disappoints badly in terms of range

Toyota's new electric car, the BZ4X, can travel over 500 km on one charge, according to the brochure. But reality is not like that. Very far from.

In Motor's range test, Toyota's first electric car can only drive 246 km at 4 degrees instead of the official figure (WLTP norm) of 504 km. So half of it.

A similar test of the BZ4X with four-wheel drive showed the same trend: Here the range was measured at just 215 km at the same temperature, and here the official figure is 461 km. So again, in practice, the test car did not even reach half as far as what Toyota envisions.

Fresh measurements from the Norwegian and Swedish media show exactly the same trend. And it is further supported by published experiences from the first Norwegian customers.

- It is normal that FDM's measurements of the range of electric cars on the motorway are somewhat below the official range figures, but this result is rather disappointing. It is significantly worse than comparable cars, says Motor's automotive technical editor, Søren W. Rasmussen.

Only Aiway's U5 has previously deviated almost as much from what was promised.

In general, electric cars run shorter in practice than in the laboratory test (WLTP), as it takes place around room temperature, without air conditioning and with a different speed profile than e.g. FDM's motorway survey.  

Søren W. Rasmussen adds that it is a pity that with its first real electric car, Toyota has apparently not got full control of the power consumption and control of the battery's capacity, so that in practice you can achieve a range that is closer to the official figures.

He points to a possible reason for the poor result:

- The usable part of the battery is apparently far from the capacity that Toyota advertises. Officially, the battery holds 71.4 kWh, but our charging measurements indicate that only about 60 kWh are available when driving off in a fully charged car.

This means that in practice you get a somewhat shorter range than what you are promised, he says. And then it is a poor consolation that you can probably continue for several extra kilometers after the car itself says that the battery is empty.

- It is a real shame that Toyota's new electric car cannot perform better than what we have experienced here. The car is basically a smooth-driving car with many good qualities. But when the range in practice is no longer than what we have measured here, then you as a car buyer really have to think twice before buying a new BZ4X, says Søren W. Rasmussen.

Toyota in Europe is aware of the matter and is investigating what could be the cause of the deviation and what, if any, can be done about it.

Two spokespersons from Toyota Motor Europe tell Motor that they do not think there is anything wrong with the cars, and that something may be due to the fact that there can be up to nine percent power left as a reserve when the range meter is at zero.

However, this reserve is far from explaining that the Toyota managed only half the WLTP figure, while other cars are up to two-thirds under the same conditions.

According to Toyota, the extra buffer has been put in place so that the driver can feel secure in the fact that she or he is not stranded when the meter reads zero km, but can actually continue for a while after that. But Toyota's spokespeople give Motor the right that it is possibly wasteful and overcautious, since virtually no motorist will drive the car in advance until the instrument shows 0 km.

[t0y0ta]

25 minutes ago, Carbon82 said:

New electric car disappoints badly in terms of range

Toyota's new electric car, the BZ4X, can travel over 500 km on one charge, according to the brochure. But reality is not like that. Very far from.

In Motor's range test, Toyota's first electric car can only drive 246 km at 4 degrees instead of the official figure (WLTP norm) of 504 km. So half of it.

A similar test of the BZ4X with four-wheel drive showed the same trend: Here the range was measured at just 215 km at the same temperature, and here the official figure is 461 km. So again, in practice, the test car did not even reach half as far as what Toyota envisions.

Fresh measurements from the Norwegian and Swedish media show exactly the same trend. And it is further supported by published experiences from the first Norwegian customers.

- It is normal that FDM's measurements of the range of electric cars on the motorway are somewhat below the official range figures, but this result is rather disappointing. It is significantly worse than comparable cars, says Motor's automotive technical editor, Søren W. Rasmussen.

Only Aiway's U5 has previously deviated almost as much from what was promised.

In general, electric cars run shorter in practice than in the laboratory test (WLTP), as it takes place around room temperature, without air conditioning and with a different speed profile than e.g. FDM's motorway survey.  

Søren W. Rasmussen adds that it is a pity that with its first real electric car, Toyota has apparently not got full control of the power consumption and control of the battery's capacity, so that in practice you can achieve a range that is closer to the official figures.

He points to a possible reason for the poor result:

- The usable part of the battery is apparently far from the capacity that Toyota advertises. Officially, the battery holds 71.4 kWh, but our charging measurements indicate that only about 60 kWh are available when driving off in a fully charged car.

This means that in practice you get a somewhat shorter range than what you are promised, he says. And then it is a poor consolation that you can probably continue for several extra kilometers after the car itself says that the battery is empty.

- It is a real shame that Toyota's new electric car cannot perform better than what we have experienced here. The car is basically a smooth-driving car with many good qualities. But when the range in practice is no longer than what we have measured here, then you as a car buyer really have to think twice before buying a new BZ4X, says Søren W. Rasmussen.

Toyota in Europe is aware of the matter and is investigating what could be the cause of the deviation and what, if any, can be done about it.

Two spokespersons from Toyota Motor Europe tell Motor that they do not think there is anything wrong with the cars, and that something may be due to the fact that there can be up to nine percent power left as a reserve when the range meter is at zero.

However, this reserve is far from explaining that the Toyota managed only half the WLTP figure, while other cars are up to two-thirds under the same conditions.

According to Toyota, the extra buffer has been put in place so that the driver can feel secure in the fact that she or he is not stranded when the meter reads zero km, but can actually continue for a while after that. But Toyota's spokespeople give Motor the right that it is possibly wasteful and overcautious, since virtually no motorist will drive the car in advance until the instrument shows 0 km.

Taiwan Youtuber got 480km out of their purchased BZ4x, inclusive the huge buffer after 0%. The km/kwh seem to be higher than other EVs tested, meaning BZ is efficient (more bang for the same electrons), but lose out because of much smaller battery size and refusal to allow all of it to be used in the normal 0-100% range.

according to the video, factors that we usually don't think of for petrol cars affect EV range significantly - weather, wind direction, ambient temperature, speed of travel (fast is no good).

My own feel is that this type of journalist testing of range as and when they get a press loaner is not a good gauge for comparing different EVs - if you test EV#1 on a day with great weather and rear wind helping, then the results will be flattering compared to them testing EV#2 during deep winter where it is snowing and cross winds gushing.

[inlinesix]

4 minutes ago, t0y0ta said:

Taiwan Youtuber got 480km out of their purchased BZ4x, inclusive the huge buffer after 0%. The km/kwh seem to be higher than other EVs tested, meaning BZ is efficient (more bang for the same electrons), but lose out because of much smaller battery size and refusal to allow all of it to be used in the normal 0-100% range.

according to the video, factors that we usually don't think of for petrol cars affect EV range significantly - weather, wind direction, ambient temperature, speed of travel (fast is no good).

My own feel is that this type of journalist testing of range as and when they get a press loaner is not a good gauge for comparing different EVs - if you test EV#1 on a day with great weather and rear wind helping, then the results will be flattering compared to them testing EV#2 during deep winter where it is snowing and cross winds gushing.

I think I saw similar video but it was loaner from a friend.

Which video did you see?

[Fcw75]

Any reason why the corner front fender are those plastic black instead of body colour? Looks terrible…

[NicholasLai]

I just enquired w BM last week.. This model wouldn't be for sale in sg anytime soon..

[inlinesix]

15 minutes ago, NicholasLai said:

I just enquired w BM last week.. This model wouldn't be for sale in sg anytime soon..

https://paultan.org/2022/12/05/toyota-bz4x-ev-suv-confirmed-for-malaysia-in-2023/