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ok, can honda civic new car price go up 20%? 

1.5 turbo leh ... can join F1 soon ... lol

anyway, back to F1 ... congrats to Max and Honda/Red Bull

at least not Merc Merc Merc all the way ... lol

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1 minute ago, Wt_know said:

ok, can honda civic new car price go up 20%? 

1.5 turbo leh ... can join F1 soon ... lol

If i am selling my car now, my description have to be . . .

2021 F1 winning engine, VTEC ALL THE WAY! 🤣

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1 hour ago, Tommisan said:

When the virtual safety car was out during Giovinazzi's retirement, Toto Wolff was telling race control not to bring the safety car out. This to me is considered a direct influence at race control, which is unacceptable. Lewis had two opportunities to pit for fresher tyres, but he didn't under the team's instructions to maintain track position.

The race was made for Max Verstappen to win. Without the virtual safety car,  Checo's great defense, safety car incident, race director's intervention, Max's superb driving and all the luck, Max would not have won.

The first lap incident is clear that Max was out to force Lewis wide. It is either a collision or Lewis has to take evasive action. Lewis clearly did not give back the advantage but cutting the chicane. And that to me was almost like serving Max the penalty for the move. The last lap had an almost identical situation, but this time Max gave Lewis enough car space to be side by side, because Max knew he had the faster car with the best tyres to win. Lewis's car is clearly more superior to Max's car.  How Lewis tried to fight back with worn hard tyres in the last lap is clear evidence. There is no doubt about it.

Why did Michael Masi allow the 5 lapped cars to unlap? In my opinion, knowing Mercs has a much better car, Redbull took all the risks to try to win the race and championship and Mercs played it all safe. Max made 3 pitstops compared to Lewis 1 pitstop. Given that it would be ridiculous to finish the final race under the safety car, Michael gave the green light for the lapped cars to unlap. The 5 cars are fighting among themselves which should not interfere with Max and Lewis battle. Yes, not all lapped cars were able to unlap, but if that were to happen, Lewis would have won the race under the safety car. It would have been a final Grand Prix that is easily forgotten and Mercs would have collected both Driver and Constructor championship. All the "what if" would have gone unanswered once again.

I was really hoping for a miracle in the final few laps and when Latifi crashed, Max pitted for soft tyres and maintaining second position and the 5 cars unlapped, it happened! 

Congratulations to Max! He fully deserve the win to become the 2021 F1 World Champion!

 

Max and Lewis has pretty much been in a class by themselves all season, where they have comfortably gapped not only the rest of the field, but also their own team mates on most weekends. 

One doesn't become WDC in one race and Max did enough in the earlier part of the season. However, in the run up to the end of the season, Lewis clearly had a performance advantage over Max. Without Sergio giving him a tow during qualifying and running interference during the race, fortuitous track incidents, and questionable race director decisions, Max did not have a chance in this race as Lewis showed pace advantage throughout.

Max's desperate first lap lunge harks back to his earlier wild days where he drove extremely aggressively - the overhead angle shows that his trajectory never intended to leave any room for Lewis, knowing that Lewis could not afford a mutual DNF. Perhaps rightly so, that no action was taken is that both cars needed to have been given a penalty that they cancelled each other out. 

To me, Max has driven well all year, but this weekend wasn't one of his best to cap off the campaign.

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driver of the day at Abu Dhabi was Perez. no way Albon, Gasly would have been able to deal with Lewis that way. [thumbsup]

Bottas already ROD mood ah ? spent dunno how many laps behind a Ferrari. <_<

Lewis boycott post race conference will kena fined or not hah ? [grin]

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14 minutes ago, Macrosszero said:

Max and Lewis has pretty much been in a class by themselves all season, where they have comfortably gapped not only the rest of the field, but also their own team mates on most weekends. 

One doesn't become WDC in one race and Max did enough in the earlier part of the season. However, in the run up to the end of the season, Lewis clearly had a performance advantage over Max. Without Sergio giving him a tow during qualifying and running interference during the race, fortuitous track incidents, and questionable race director decisions, Max did not have a chance in this race as Lewis showed pace advantage throughout.

Max's desperate first lap lunge harks back to his earlier wild days where he drove extremely aggressively - the overhead angle shows that his trajectory never intended to leave any room for Lewis, knowing that Lewis could not afford a mutual DNF. Perhaps rightly so, that no action was taken is that both cars needed to have been given a penalty that they cancelled each other out. 

To me, Max has driven well all year, but this weekend wasn't one of his best to cap off the campaign.

And if you take out the controversies by FIA, the safety car...doubt Max would have won! in the end, we all saw the best car and driver didn't win and the person who won the race knows it deep down inside that he didn't stand a chance at all in this race!....does it not make him feel his win is shallow....you couldn't beat the guy fair and square and you needed divine  "help"...hhhmmm....if I am the person who won, there is nothing to rejoice about! 🤣

i would have pack my bags and left...

 

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1 hour ago, Macrosszero said:

Max and Lewis has pretty much been in a class by themselves all season, where they have comfortably gapped not only the rest of the field, but also their own team mates on most weekends. 

One doesn't become WDC in one race and Max did enough in the earlier part of the season. However, in the run up to the end of the season, Lewis clearly had a performance advantage over Max. Without Sergio giving him a tow during qualifying and running interference during the race, fortuitous track incidents, and questionable race director decisions, Max did not have a chance in this race as Lewis showed pace advantage throughout.

Max's desperate first lap lunge harks back to his earlier wild days where he drove extremely aggressively - the overhead angle shows that his trajectory never intended to leave any room for Lewis, knowing that Lewis could not afford a mutual DNF. Perhaps rightly so, that no action was taken is that both cars needed to have been given a penalty that they cancelled each other out. 

To me, Max has driven well all year, but this weekend wasn't one of his best to cap off the campaign.

@Macrosszero Max has always been aggressive in his drive. Compared to his earlier years, he has matured alot. He made much less mistakes and realized that being aggressive and sometimes over the top does not help. You would think Max had dominated the earlier part of the season but if you look back, the lead changed hands a couple of times between Max and Lewis. It was not always Max leading. 

In the final qualifying of the season, true that Sergio gave him the tow during qualifying but Mercs could play the same game too, this to me is all about strategy and tactics. It is all fair play. And Redbull just took the time to plan it all out and gave Max the best possible starting position during the race.

There were several races where sometimes penalty were given and sometimes not over hard racing at a corner, but in Abu Dhabi, for sure Max knew Lewis will not challenge, either by lifting or taking evasive actions. It would have been a penalty for Max if there was contact, but since Lewis gained the advantage by cutting the chicane, this cancels out the penalty. 

Mercs had several issues earlier on with their upgraded engines, but once that is resolved, the upgrades were far more than a match for Redbull. Why does Redbull have no answer for Mercs? It simply was not able to. In the final race, the balance of the Mercs car is much better than Redbull through the corners and Lewis has always been able to conserve the tyres compared to Max. This is one reason why Lewis is so formidable on race day. In the final race, Redbull had to sacrifice downforce to carry more speed in the straights, but even so, every lap Mercs was at least 2 tenth quicker than Redbull and building up to a gap of more than 10 seconds.

Lewis is one of the best drivers and a 7 times world champion, no one can dispute that. But their superiority did not come just from this year, it is through several years of development and using of the token systems to upgrade further, just like other teams. Note that there are several restrictions in development of the car from 2020 to end 2021. It is not free-play every year to bring out new aero, performance parts. Plus there is a budget cap. Redbull has to play catch-up every year to reach what they achieved this year. Yet, to me, they are not always on par. Yes, the win is controversial, but all credits to Max and lady luck. 

Just take George Russell who drove Lewis's car in Sakhir Grand Prix, Dec 2020. With one size smaller shoe and a completely new car to drive. George was able to qualify for pole and almost won the race, if not for the mess-up by the team during pit stop and strategy. It clearly shows Mercs car superiority. Even at the beginning of the 2021 season, where Lewis won 3 out of 4 races up till 9 May 2021. Their dominance carried forward from 2020 to 2021. 

The final race clearly shows Mercs- Lewis to be on top, but luck is upon Redbull- Max to triumph.

 

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2 hours ago, Macrosszero said:

Max and Lewis has pretty much been in a class by themselves all season, where they have comfortably gapped not only the rest of the field, but also their own team mates on most weekends. 

One doesn't become WDC in one race and Max did enough in the earlier part of the season. However, in the run up to the end of the season, Lewis clearly had a performance advantage over Max. Without Sergio giving him a tow during qualifying and running interference during the race, fortuitous track incidents, and questionable race director decisions, Max did not have a chance in this race as Lewis showed pace advantage throughout.

Max's desperate first lap lunge harks back to his earlier wild days where he drove extremely aggressively - the overhead angle shows that his trajectory never intended to leave any room for Lewis, knowing that Lewis could not afford a mutual DNF. Perhaps rightly so, that no action was taken is that both cars needed to have been given a penalty that they cancelled each other out. 

To me, Max has driven well all year, but this weekend wasn't one of his best to cap off the campaign.

yes, Max and Lewis are the real deal this season.

in almost every race, we see these 2 guys having a pit stop in the pocket by lap 20+. [flowerface]

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4 hours ago, Spidey10 said:

And if you take out the controversies by FIA, the safety car...doubt Max would have won! in the end, we all saw the best car and driver didn't win and the person who won the race knows it deep down inside that he didn't stand a chance at all in this race!....does it not make him feel his win is shallow....you couldn't beat the guy fair and square and you needed divine  "help"...hhhmmm....if I am the person who won, there is nothing to rejoice about! 🤣

i would have pack my bags and left...

 

Same thing when race director forgo asking Lewis return Max track position when Lewis went off tracks due to they regard as racing so didn’t apply the rules. If they anal apply the rules the outcome might be different too .

so I am happy with the entertainment value since F1 is expensive sports they need the revenue from viewership 😁

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Over the season, MV deserve to be WDC. Silverstone. Ham cause max to crash, he got a 10s pen, but got 25 points.

MV led the GP that Perez won... puncture n crash, 0 points for both

Spa was the weird one, MV got the win but erm half pts and Ham got half points also.

for me, based on first 2 incidents, MV is a deserving WDC.

Driver of the day? i honestly feel its Perez. That defence, cost ham 8s in less than 2 laps on 20 laps old tyres...

others voted Kim. me no miss him cos his invisible all the time, him sitting in the alfa is just wasting his time.

 

Finally i give it to Latifi 😜

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14 minutes ago, Vegas said:

Finally i give it to Latifi 😜

lifetime supply of Red Bull .... LOL

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7 hours ago, Blueray said:

Max Verstappen: Formula 1's 'bull fighter' & the family that shaped him

https://www.bbc.com/sport/formula1/59555388

Orange Arrows days. 

 

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his father has a colourful past. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jos_Verstappen

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After a 1998 incident at a karting track in which a man suffered a fractured skull, Verstappen and his father, Frans, were found guilty in court of assault but were each given a five-year suspended jail sentence after reaching an out-of-court settlement with the victim.[34]

In December 2008, with the couple effectively separated, Verstappen appeared in court in Tongeren, Belgium, charged with assaulting his wife.[35] He was found not guilty of assault, but guilty of threatening Kumpen in text messages and of violating a previously issued restraining order. He was fined and sentenced to three months probational, suspended prison sentence.[36]

On 29 November 2011, the media reported allegations that Verstappen had assaulted his ex-girlfriend; Verstappen claimed to only have had a discussion with her.[37] In January 2012, he was arrested on attempted murder charges following accusations that he drove a car into his ex-girlfriend in Roermond,[38] but released two weeks later after the charge was withdrawn.[39] Verstappen and his ex-girlfriend, Kelly van der Waal, got back together and were married in 2014. They have one daughter, Blue Jaye, born in September 2014.[40] They divorced on 2 June 2017.[41]

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I feel Masi did these to keep the sport entertaining for the neutrals and newly-arrived drive-to-survive group. Unfortunately some like it, while some would leave for good, disgusted. If he had let an SC car finish, many would complain but they'd still come back next season knowing there is order and structure. I just feel for merc when they got the tyre strategy right and assumed masi would do the right thing.

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