2022 Kia EV6

[Kennethoka]

I hope that Telsa can be the game changer in how the automobile industries works in Singapore

[Acegab]

1 hour ago, Car1990 said:

that’s how Tesla will kill those middleman 

They are already doing in overseas. Dealer markups for say a Mercedes EQS in the US is like 50k for a 70k car. While Tesla is what you see is what you get.

Edited December 30, 2021 by Acegab
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[Hamburger]

Is VW not doing direct sales as they did not appoint any AD?

 

Their car price is not cheap either. With or w/o middle man. 

[Rm2s]

That is why VW is doing wonderful business in SG. They import their cars direct from factory via internal transfer price and mark up to sell to us.

Tesla model is commendable but they are the only one doing it. We need a few more, especially mass market models.

[Kennethoka]

I still believe it takes 2 hand to clap. Because buyer has no choice, all the sellers in Singapore is doing this way no one until Tesla enters Singapore market. If car manufacturer is following Tesla doing direct sale, it think the buyer is more than happy to buy from them.

[Acegab]

On 12/31/2021 at 8:24 AM, Rm2s said:

That is why VW is doing wonderful business in SG. They import their cars direct from factory via internal transfer price and mark up to sell to us.

Tesla model is commendable but they are the only one doing it. We need a few more, especially mass market models.

Daswelt auto is wholly owned by VW but it's still considered a subsidiary with their own P&L compared to Tesla which is a true direct to consumer business model

[Fellows]

KIA EV6 seem like it is heading to our sunny nation.

Edited January 6, 2022 by Fellows

[Volvobrick]

16 minutes ago, Fellows said:

KIA EV6 seem like it is heading to our sunny nation.



To be handled by CNC? Sure overpriced one....

[Kennethoka]

1 hour ago, Volvobrick said:

To be handled by CNC? Sure overpriced one....

So for I think for korean car,  CNC did a better job in pricing recently as compare to Komoco. KIA and Hyundai, I think Komoco priced Hyundai way too high. We might see Ioniq 5 will be more expensive than EV 6

Edited January 6, 2022 by Kennethoka

[Acegab]

Confirm plus chop 200k

[Kennethoka]

53 minutes ago, Acegab said:

Confirm plus chop 200k

Definitely. Tesla direct sale also borderline 200k. KIA EV6 sell via AD. AD needs to earn profit too.

Other country offers 4 different horsepower 

1) 168hp - RWD Standard Range

2) 232hp - AWD Standard Range

3) 225hp - RWD Long Range

4) 321hp - AWD Long Range

Depend CNC bring what what variant.

My guess will be option 3 and 4. And the price might be slightly above Stinger 2.0 for options 3 and Stinger 3.3 for option 4

Edited January 6, 2022 by Kennethoka

[teomingern]

I was told by Komoco sales person the Ioniq 5 will be in end of this year and yes, we all guess right... above $200,000 at today's COE prices... likely matching or going above the current Staria and Palisade pricing...

[Acegab]

7 hours ago, teomingern said:

I was told by Komoco sales person the Ioniq 5 will be in end of this year and yes, we all guess right... above $200,000 at today's COE prices... likely matching or going above the current Staria and Palisade pricing...

Who said EV rebates will make them cheaper. All got eaten up by the ADs. Waiting for Model Y to launch and I'll happily give Tesla my money

[Rickster]

On 12/30/2021 at 10:41 PM, Car1990 said:

that’s how Tesla will kill those middleman 

I hope Tesla is giving good prices not just to break market, but with the aim to conquer the market.

Else will become just like another VW. Don't see their prices as being competitive despite them cutting out the middle man.

[inlinesix]

Just now, Rickster said:

I hope Tesla is giving good prices not just to break market, but with the aim to conquer the market.

Else will become just like another VW. Don't see their prices as being competitive despite them cutting out the middle man.

Currently, it is the only car that has no margin.

 

[Rickster]

21 minutes ago, Acegab said:

Who said EV rebates will make them cheaper. All got eaten up by the ADs. Waiting for Model Y to launch and I'll happily give Tesla my money

Not just the AD. I'm quite sure our govt will ensure that any losses in petrol tax and cost of building the charging infra will be fully recovered, if not more, via all the different form of taxes that will come for EVs as it starts to gain widespread adoption. For a start, just look at SP Power's EV charging rate per KWH, its like more than double that of residential rates.

For the many out there who are still dreaming that EV will be their route to cheaper car ownership... I'm afraid it's not going to happen.

[Rickster]

On 12/31/2021 at 12:48 AM, Hamburger said:

Is VW not doing direct sales as they did not appoint any AD?

 

Their car price is not cheap either. With or w/o middle man. 

Yes, exactly. Their markup can fight with or even higher than some ADs

[teomingern]

2 hours ago, Rickster said:

Yes, exactly. Their markup can fight with or even higher than some ADs

Premium mah...