Beregond Supersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 12/7/2021 at 3:06 PM, happy_man said: Thanks for sharing. I am afraid for those who are already fully vaccinated with mRNA, MOH will not allow "booster" with any approved non-RNA. I know those who had Sinovac received MOH notification "strongly" urging them to that m-RNA for 3rd jab. From what I had gathered, those on Sinovac already made up their mind long ago...and won't even dare go near m-RNA...😝 Expand next year when i need to take booster for pizer. my best guess is i will go book 3 dose of sinoharm to have the fully vacc cert. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) On 12/8/2021 at 1:51 AM, inlinesix said: For Sinovac, 1st and 2nd Jab has 4 weeks interval. 3rd jab will be 4 months after that. It is likely a booster 6 months after that. ======================================== For mRNA, 1st and 2nd jab has 2 weeks interval. Booster will be 6 months after that. ======================================== Same same?? Expand Booster in 6 months' time is what "expert" say one... Experts with research grant from pharma companies. Up to us to believe or not Is like those research papers on tongkat ali boosting testosterone lah, you see those researchers either receive grant from tongkat ali pill manufacturer or in their employ. Back to covid, the best is to check antibody level - which may differ from individual to individual. Or based on individual risk profile, decide for ownself whether the interval should be 1 year (more reasonable, IMHO, like a flu vaccine), or perhaps even longer or not at all - the covid virus might become more benign by then. What I am saying is that all these figures are spouted by someone and the veracity is never 100%. I am not averse to mRNA vaccine and in fact, chose it over those traditional vacc; however, i believe the risk is there and why take further risk if not necessary? "Chose" is a wrong word on second thought, because i got the vacc quite early on when the adverse side effects were not yet widespread news... more like, take the jab blindly and turned out ok. Edited December 8, 2021 by Sosaria 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) On 12/8/2021 at 3:12 AM, Beregond said: next year when i need to take booster for pizer. my best guess is i will go book 3 dose of sinoharm to have the fully vacc cert. Expand u have had 2 doses of pfizer yet? then that would be a full vaccination course. Why would u do sinopharm then? Edited December 8, 2021 by Lala81 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 3:41 AM, Lala81 said: u have had 2 doses of pfizer yet? then that would be a full vaccination course. Why would u do sinopharm then? Expand because when my window for booster open in 4 mth time. if i didnt take another mrna booster. my fully vaxx cert will be cancel? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) On 12/8/2021 at 3:49 AM, Beregond said: because when my window for booster open in 4 mth time. if i didnt take another mrna booster. my fully vaxx cert will be cancel? Expand As of now, not a concern for MRNA based ones. I don't think the govt will push that hard on boosters for those who did MRNA based vaccines. There are lot of people going around without boosters. Serological evidence has shown that taking inactivated (sinovac or sinopharm) vaccine boosters post MRNA based vaccine does nothing antibody wise. Edited December 8, 2021 by Lala81 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 3:53 AM, Lala81 said: As of now, not a concern for MRNA based ones. I don't think the govt will push that hard on boosters for those who did MRNA based vaccines. There are lot of people going around without boosters. Serological evidence has shown that taking inactivated (sinovac or sinopharm) vaccine boosters post MRNA based vaccine does nothing antibody wise. Expand but my top choice is still novavax just that dun know if got enough time to see how good it work and if any side effect Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 4:01 AM, Beregond said: but my top choice is still novavax just that dun know if got enough time to see how good it work and if any side effect Expand novavax... wait until neck long long liao. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 3:28 AM, Sosaria said: Booster in 6 months' time is what "expert" say one... Experts with research grant from pharma companies. Up to us to believe or not Is like those research papers on tongkat ali boosting testosterone lah, you see those researchers either receive grant from tongkat ali pill manufacturer or in their employ. Back to covid, the best is to check antibody level - which may differ from individual to individual. Or based on individual risk profile, decide for ownself whether the interval should be 1 year (more reasonable, IMHO, like a flu vaccine), or perhaps even longer or not at all - the covid virus might become more benign by then. What I am saying is that all these figures are spouted by someone and the veracity is never 100%. I am not averse to mRNA vaccine and in fact, chose it over those traditional vacc; however, i believe the risk is there and why take further risk if not necessary? "Chose" is a wrong word on second thought, because i got the vacc quite early on when the adverse side effects were not yet widespread news... more like, take the jab blindly and turned out ok. Expand Just like you, I took it once it is available for my age group. I had done cpass test. I can hold on till the 11th month before taking booster. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 4:07 AM, Lala81 said: novavax... wait until neck long long liao. Expand The way i feel is. Even if gov dun force us to take booster. After 5 months when our 2 mrna become ineffective. We ownself need to do something about it. Dun say our status still full vax. Then bo chap . For our own sake and family members sake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) On 12/8/2021 at 4:10 AM, Beregond said: The way i feel is. Even if gov dun force us to take booster. After 5 months when our 2 mrna become ineffective. We ownself need to do something about it. Dun say our status still full vax. Then bo chap .For our own sake and family members sake. Expand You must be really ole for it to be ineffective after 5 months Edited December 8, 2021 by inlinesix 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) On 12/8/2021 at 4:10 AM, Beregond said: The way i feel is. Even if gov dun force us to take booster. After 5 months when our 2 mrna become ineffective. We ownself need to do something about it. Dun say our status still full vax. Then bo chap . For our own sake and family members sake. Expand hmmm like what inlinesix said, the younger you are, the stronger your antibody level will be even with no boosters If u are >50 and not good health, then maybe the boosters more important. Or if u are in close contact with covid virtually daily like me, then yeah. If u work in areas whereby interaction with large numbers of people or take care of kids etc, then yeah sensible to be boosted. Personally I don't really care if my wife/siblings/BIL/SIL etc take the booster. But all the old folks 100% boosted up. Of course this doesnt apply to sinovac as primary vaccine. I would definitely boost in that scenario. Edited December 8, 2021 by Lala81 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 4:01 AM, Beregond said: but my top choice is still novavax just that dun know if got enough time to see how good it work and if any side effect Expand novavax so tok kong meh? how come huh? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datsun366 Turbocharged December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 The rate the virus is mutating… the vaxc shots are good for that viral version and similar mutations. from hulk to abomination is a whole other story. if still don’t understand….bo Bian Liao. Do the best only Lor, for some sticker boost 5 hp Jin happy liaole. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 (edited) On 12/8/2021 at 4:45 AM, Wt_know said: novavax so tok kong meh? how come huh? Expand no expert. but alot of hype on it. its different from sinovac/sinoharm or pizer ( mrna ) type of vaccine. the best case scenario is novavax type of vaccine can beat cov19 once and for all. Edited December 8, 2021 by Beregond Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 8, 2021 Share December 8, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 4:55 AM, Beregond said: no expert. but alot of hype on it. its different from sinovac/sinoharm or pizer ( mrna ) type of vaccine. the best case scenario is novavax type of vaccine can beat cov19 once and for all. Expand hmm i don't think its that miracle. MRNA based vaccines are still the best. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 15, 2021 Share December 15, 2021 More bad news for ppl who took Sinovac People who take Sinovac vaccine at higher risk of severe disease: NCID study https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/people-who-take-sinovac-vaccine-at-higher-risk-of-severe-disease-ncid-study Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didu Turbocharged December 25, 2021 Share December 25, 2021 3 Sinovac doses fail to protect against Omicron in study Two doses and a booster of the Covid-19 vaccine made by China's Sinovac Biotech, one of the most widely used in the world, did not produce sufficient levels of neutralising antibodies to protect against the Omicron variant, a laboratory study has found. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/east-asia/3-sinovac-doses-fail-to-protect-against-omicron-in-study "HOW DARE YOU??!! THAT'S SACRILEGE!!" 😁 ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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