Sinovac arrives in SG, selected clinics allowed to administer vaccine at a fee

[Heartlander]

This morning at Bedok South block 18 market buying breakfast saw a large crowd gathered outside a small clinic, then saw the signage about Sinovac being available. Think got alot of supporters haha.

[Albeniz]

My friend waited for sinovac to arrive.

I asked her why. 

Is it because they include Chinese herbal liang teh into the shot? 

 

[Kb27]

i think some old folks mistaken sinovac "traditional" vaccine is associated with chinese TCM, and mRNA is western vaccine.

[mersaylee]

6 minutes ago, Kb27 said:

i think some old folks mistaken sinovac "traditional" vaccine is associated with chinese TCM, and mRNA is western vaccine.

Not just old folks here...younger East Asians strongly believe in their current or former 领导...😁

[Ender]

Today can hog kopi tiam seat and drink beer, better get a shot asap to feel invincible.

Are the private clinics required to do the 30 mins post vaccination wait before releasing the patient? 

[Windwaver]

13 hours ago, Albeniz said:

My friend waited for sinovac to arrive.

I asked her why. 

Is it because they include Chinese herbal liang teh into the shot? 

 

Need to pay must be better 

[Mooose]

9 hours ago, Windwaver said:

Need to pay must be better 

hahaha .. like that why some people dont figure that maybe the $25 clinics must be better than the $10 ones .. 😂😂

but seriously, this line of thought is prevalent in thailand - gov give sinovac and AZ free but many dont trust .. those who can afford are paying for a booking at a private hospital for moderna .. 

[Nav14]

If the China nationalists need to take China vaccine, to show their patriotism, then at the very least wait / opt for the Sinopharm vaccine, which has proven to be more effective than Sinovac. Sinovac is no better than injecting water into your body.

[Nav14]

@Singa 

3 minutes ago, Singa said:

My first impression when I see this is: you gotta be kidding me. SG is not going to throw more good money after bad vaccine.. 🤣

The purchase of Sinovac was contracted by the govt before the vaccine was even produced. China sent 200,000 shots based on the contract and i believe the govt has not requested for any further Sinovac supplies in view of the very low efficacy rates.

Govt has indicated, private clinics / hospitals can import any WHO approved vaccine, which includes Sinopharm. If was a CCP lover, I would wait for Sinopharm.

[Kb27]

Sg govt is just glad to get rid of this vaccine.

[Jamesc]

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Evidence from overseas shows Sinovac vaccine carries some risk of Covid-19 infection despite jabs

Isn't this true of every vaccine?

Which vaccine guarantee no risk of infection?

[Jamesc]

I am just glad P and M free and SV has to pay.

If not I will have to come out money for whole family

except MIL.

[Jamesc]

2 minutes ago, Singa said:

You are absolutely right. 

But people should be scared of vaccine with low efficacy, if it requires you to take booster shot more regularly. More regular shots means more risk?

That is true but people forget mRNA also got a risk.

The risk is in the long term we don't know what it will do.

With an inactivated vaccine like SV we do know the risk

because we have a long history of using vaccines like this.

[Beregond]

1 minute ago, Jamesc said:

That is true but people forget mRNA also got a risk.

The risk is in the long term we don't know what it will do.

With an inactivated vaccine like SV we do know the risk

because we have a long history of using vaccines like this.

Since the start i say the worst this about cov19 is politicalise it.

Trump is the ase who did it first. Making 2 group. Mask and no mask.

Now another group of ppl is coming up with stuff like taking china vaccine is china supporter ? Taking mrna vaccine is usa supporter.?

How much worst they want make this be?

[Jamesc]

People take efficacy rate as gospel truth.

It is not because testing of different vaccines is done in different countries at different times.

If you do a test in a country with very few people with Covid then your test results will be very nice.

So vaccines tested early when Covid not spread so fast have an advantage.

You do your testing when many people already have Covid your results won't be so good.

So many people still think the advertised efficacy rates is something real and forever true. It is not.

Its like you see me in the morning and I haven't had a coffee and have a black face and you see me once and forever say James is a mean and grump and unfriendly idiot.

You see me at midnight after 5 whiskies laughing and joking and friendly and you say that James is a really friendly, chatty fun person.

See me once and forever I am that kind of person in your mind.

[Jamesc]

7 minutes ago, Singa said:

People kept saying side effects, if any, will come within weeks or a few months. if no side effect after that, then we are good. But no one can tell for sure. 

At least, we can't say the cure is worse than the problem at this stage.  😀

Anyone knows if there is any risk of inactivated vaccine getting activated for any reason, poor QC?

Its not the short term side effects we should worry about.

Its the long term side effects that we don't know about.

However there is a history of medicines taken and only after many years we know the full effects like  thalidomide.

At the time it was tested and approved people thought it was safe.

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After 60 years, scientists uncover how thalidomide produced birth defects

More than 60 years after the drug thalidomide caused birth defects in thousands of children whose mothers took the drug while pregnant, scientists at Dana-Farber Cancer Institute have solved a mystery that has lingered ever since the dangers of the drug first became apparent: how did the drug produce such severe fetal harm?

The answer, published online today by the journal Elife, not only helps resolve an issue that has been the subject of scientific curiosity for two generations, but will be critical as pharmaceutical companies develop a promising new generation of anticancer drugs that share a basic chemical architecture with thalidomide, the study authors say.

 

 

[Jamesc]

18 minutes ago, Beregond said:

Since the start i say the worst this about cov19 is politicalise it.

Trump is the ase who did it first. Making 2 group. Mask and no mask.

Now another group of ppl is coming up with stuff like taking china vaccine is china supporter ? Taking mrna vaccine is usa supporter.?

How much worst they want make this be?

Yes its politicised but I am not sure all the people that are taking SV is taking it because they know its an inactivated vaccine and they know about the benefits of inactivated virus and that's the one they want to take

or

is it they want to go to China and don't want to be stopped at the border?

The other things is - its politicised but China is also using the vaccine as a political tool.

But its two different things - is SV effective as a vaccine - yes it is.

Is China using it as a political tool - yes it is.

[Beregond]

24 minutes ago, Jamesc said:

Yes its politicised but I am not sure all the people that are taking SV is taking it because they know its an inactivated vaccine and they know about the benefits of inactivated virus and that's the one they want to take

 

yes  got alot that choose SV want go china, but the fact is there is alot that got nothing to do with china choose this vaccine also.

the fact that countries are using vaccine as tools is bad enough,

yet even ppl here still want to split into 2 group, u take SV  u are china .

then another group, u take mrna, u gonna get cancer later.

really is wtf to me.