Nolicense Turbocharged May 20, 2021 Share May 20, 2021 17 minutes ago, Mooose said: i think you (not necessarily you as in you but someone) can count the numbers if you looked at the various news reports - i remember reading news reports that said a certain number of the infected on such and such a day had been vaccinated .. total vaccination numbers are available (or an approximation) .. i just saw that 3.4 million doses of vaccines have been administered, on the simple assumption that these had gone as per 2 doses per person, then 1.7 million have been vaccinated .. the real figure of people having had at least one dose is likely higher as not all have had 2 doses .. if 1% of those who receive doses are infected then we should be looking at minimum 17,000 people .. in other words, if 1% of the people vaccinated still got infected then we are looking at potentially over 17,000 cases .. infection of vaccinated persons are only those within this latest wave - how many total infections (worse case scenerio that all the latest infections are of people that have had vaccinations) = how many percent (worst case which is not the case because of those infected in the latest wave certainly not all were vaccinated) .. efficacy rate looks pretty decent? bro. you need to go read how the pharma conducted the efficacy test and when they did it, and where they did it. statistically speaking, the study claims the infection risk is 5%. but must be based on the environment it is conducted in. you cannot use this number and reverse calculate because sg is totally different environment. to add, the vaccination is applied to senior age group, frontliners and FW. statistically biased groups ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooose 6th Gear May 20, 2021 Share May 20, 2021 8 minutes ago, Nolicense said: bro. you need to go read how the pharma conducted the efficacy test and when they did it, and where they did it. statistically speaking, the study claims the infection risk is 5%. but must be based on the environment it is conducted in. you cannot use this number and reverse calculate because sg is totally different environment. to add, the vaccination is applied to senior age group, frontliners and FW. statistically biased groups no worries, we seem to be on different wavelengths .. i am not looking at how people conduct studies which some claim is not accurate .. i am only looking at "real life" here - how many vaccinated total vs how many vaccinated and got infected - to sort of show how useful (or efficacy) it is of vaccination of that vaccine .. thats all .. nothing more 😊 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolicense Turbocharged May 20, 2021 Share May 20, 2021 1 minute ago, Mooose said: no worries, we seem to be on different wavelengths .. i am not looking at how people conduct studies which some claim is not accurate .. i am only looking at "real life" here - how many vaccinated total vs how many vaccinated and got infected - to sort of show how useful (or efficacy) it is of vaccination of that vaccine .. thats all .. nothing more 😊 well you are not going to get that. 1. no control group. 2. different vaccines used 3. no full randomisation 4. time delimited test not defined etc. bro, science is like that. engineering is like that. you can get anecdotal facts and tabulate it. im sure MOH is doing it too. but without all the parameters to reference against, it is meaningless. that is why no self respecting academic will publish these numbers as there is no reference even people with an agenda for political points wont use these numbers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mooose 6th Gear May 20, 2021 Share May 20, 2021 3 minutes ago, Nolicense said: well you are not going to get that. 1. no control group. 2. different vaccines used 3. no full randomisation 4. time delimited test not defined etc. bro, science is like that. engineering is like that. you can get anecdotal facts and tabulate it. im sure MOH is doing it too. but without all the parameters to reference against, it is meaningless. that is why no self respecting academic will publish these numbers as there is no reference even people with an agenda for political points wont use these numbers no worries, my mind is probably too simplistic .. hahaha Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic May 28, 2021 Author Share May 28, 2021 Looks like sinopharm is good for the old tech. https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/sinopharm-covid-19-vaccines-what-the-latest-study-shows-1.1622190625760https://gulfnews.com/world/asia/sinopharm-covid-19-vaccines-what-the-latest-study-shows-1.1622190625760 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weez911 Supersonic June 1, 2021 Share June 1, 2021 Yes! WHO approves Sinovac Biotech's Covid-19 vaccine for emergency use! Woohoo!! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamesc Hypersonic June 1, 2021 Share June 1, 2021 Quote Sinovac Biotech Ltd's vaccine is wiping out Covid-19 among health workers in Indonesia Possible They might be in full PPE Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic June 1, 2021 Author Share June 1, 2021 But sinovac have to go thru private medical. i believe those who wants it has to pay for it. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/moh-to-allow-special-access-to-other-vaccines Quote "As and when the WHO approves the Sinovac vaccine under its emergency-use list, the licensed healthcare institution can apply to MOH to draw on our existing stock of 200,000 doses to administer to those who wish to have it," said Mr Ong. 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 8 hours ago, Ender said: But sinovac have to go thru private medical. i believe those who wants it has to pay for it. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/moh-to-allow-special-access-to-other-vaccines At own risk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 13 hours ago, Ender said: But sinovac have to go thru private medical. i believe those who wants it has to pay for it. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/moh-to-allow-special-access-to-other-vaccines mean not going to include in the vaccination program? at least offer in some locations for people who want to take. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 Just now, Jman888 said: mean not going to include in the vaccination program? at least offer in some locations for people who want to take. It is offer to ppl at own pocket at own risk Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blueray Hypersonic June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 WHO approves Sinovac's Covid-19 vaccine for emergency use https://www.straitstimes.com/world/europe/who-approves-sinovacs-covid-19-vaccine can go China to visit "relatives" already ... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver_blade Turbocharged June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 Good news for those who couldn't take mRNA vaccine due to medical condition. Hopefully they can take this. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kklim Supercharged June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 15 hours ago, Ender said: But sinovac have to go thru private medical. i believe those who wants it has to pay for it. https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/moh-to-allow-special-access-to-other-vaccines Ya. At own cost, kaki arrange. KNS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Somewhat1975 6th Gear June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 2 hours ago, inlinesix said: It is offer to ppl at own pocket at own risk For now yes. Once it get the approval from HSA, it will be administered in the same way as Pfizer and Moderna. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ToyotaShuttle 5th Gear June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 7 hours ago, inlinesix said: At own risk you mean pfizer isn't at own risk? govt will give you back your life if you die? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray7456 3rd Gear June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 (edited) All at own risk except it isn't loaded with a free vaccine injury financial assistance programme. Max payout $225K https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/vaccination/vifap Edited June 2, 2021 by Ray7456 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic June 2, 2021 Share June 2, 2021 2 minutes ago, Ray7456 said: All at own risk except it isn't loaded with a free vaccine injury financial assistance programme. Max payout $225K https://www.moh.gov.sg/covid-19/vaccination/vifap wait long long la. so far all the death after taking the vaccine did they get any compensation?? the risk is same for all the vaccine, the way i see it, in fact those vaccine make with old method even less risk. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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