Sinovac arrives in SG, selected clinics allowed to administer vaccine at a fee

[Kb27]

Lead Sinovac vaccine scientist in Indonesia dies of suspected Covid-19

The lead scientist on China's Sinovac vaccine trials in Indonesia died of suspected Covid-19 on Wednesday, Indonesian media said.

The death of Novilia Sjafri Bachtiar comes as fatalities from the coronavirus reach record highs in Indonesia, one of the countries where the Sinovac vaccine has been most widely used.

Kumparan news service said Novilia had died of the coronavirus. Sindonews quoted an official of state-owned pharmaceuticals company BioFarma as saying she had been buried according to Covid-19 protocols.

State enterprises minister Erick Thohir posted a message on Instagram mourning her "huge loss" at BioFarma, which is making the vaccine. He did not give the cause of her death.

"She was lead scientist and head of dozens of clinical trials done by BioFarma, including Covid-19 vaccine clinical trials in cooperation with Sinovac," he said.

"It has been produced and injected into tens of millions people in Indonesia, as part of our effort to be free from this Covid-19 pandemic."

BioFarma did not immediately respond to a request for comment on the death of Novilia, who was in her early fifties.

The infection and deaths of health workers in Indonesia who had received the Sinovac vaccine has added to questions over its effectiveness in preventing hospitalization and death.

According to independent data group Lapor Covid-19, 131 healthcare workers, mostly vaccinated with the Sinovac shot, have died since June, including 50 in July.

Indonesia reported more than 1,000 coronavirus deaths in a day for the first time on Wednesday and a record 34,379 infections. The latest wave of infections has been driven by the Delta variant, first identified in India.

Last month, Sinovac spokesman Liu Peicheng told Reuters preliminary results showed the vaccine produced a three-fold reduction in neutralizing effect against the Delta variant.

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18 minutes ago, Kb27 said:

She was lead scientist and head of dozens of clinical trials done by BioFarma, including Covid-19 vaccine clinical trials in cooperation with Sinovac," he said.

So errrr.... Indos are being used for clinical trials by sinovac????

Or they just don't trust sinovac data and want to confirm locally....

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[Kb27]

45 minutes ago, Playtime said:

So errrr.... Indos are being used for clinical trials by sinovac????

Or they just don't trust sinovac data and want to confirm locally....

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https://jakartaglobe.id/news/indonesia-administers-sinovac-vaccine-manufactured-by-bio-farma

Sinovac produced in Indonesia. So how do you make inactivated virus for vaccine ? Probably you need to handle live virus, very dangerous.

 

Cutter incident

In April 1955 more than 200 000 children in five Western and mid-Western USA states received a polio vaccine in which the process of inactivating the live virus proved to be defective. Within days there were reports of paralysis and within a month the first mass vaccination programme against polio had to be abandoned. Subsequent investigations revealed that the vaccine, manufactured by the California-based family firm of Cutter Laboratories, had caused 40 000 cases of polio, leaving 200 children with varying degrees of paralysis and killing 10.

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[Ash2017]

SinoVac currently no stock, have to wait for those wanting this vaccine.

[inlinesix]

Malaysia records severe Covid-19 cases among vaccinated, health minister urges people to take booster shots
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-records-severe-covid-19-cases-among-vaccinated-health-minister-urges-people-to

“The last epidemiology week (week 45) saw 165 Sinovac recipients admitted to Hospital Sungai Buloh as Category 4 and 5 patients.

Both categories refer to seriously ill patients in intensive care units (ICUs). Patients under Category 4 require oxygen assistance while those under Category 5 need to be ventilated.

In comparison, 24 were Pfizer recipients while seven had taken the AstraZeneca vaccine.”

[Wt_know]

booster shot or no booster shot

the writings are clearly on the WALL liao

everyone will tio covid ... slowly but surely

current vaccine has no "protection" from infection ... 

simi S, P, A, M vaccine ... all cannot protect you from infection 

those vaccinated even with booster shot will still tio covid

now hopefully ... with vaccine + booster = tio covid MC 3 days ... 

so ... every country all their people will tio covid 

those cannot than may kena knock-out?  

Edited November 21, 2021 by Wt_know

[Jman888]

54 minutes ago, Wt_know said:

booster shot or no booster shot

the writings are clearly on the WALL liao

everyone will tio covid ... slowly but surely

current vaccine has no "protection" from infection ... 

simi S, P, A, M vaccine ... all cannot protect you from infection 

those vaccinated even with booster shot will still tio covid

now hopefully ... with vaccine + booster = tio covid MC 3 days ... 

so ... every country all their people will tio covid 

those cannot than may kena knock-out?  

after 1 year you still thinking vaccine is to shield you from infection?

[inlinesix]

Just now, Jman888 said:

after 1 year you still thinking vaccine is to shield you from infection?

The only way to shield against infection is to block the mouth and nose.

 

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1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

Malaysia records severe Covid-19 cases among vaccinated, health minister urges people to take booster shots
https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/malaysia-records-severe-covid-19-cases-among-vaccinated-health-minister-urges-people-to

“The last epidemiology week (week 45) saw 165 Sinovac recipients admitted to Hospital Sungai Buloh as Category 4 and 5 patients.

Both categories refer to seriously ill patients in intensive care units (ICUs). Patients under Category 4 require oxygen assistance while those under Category 5 need to be ventilated.

In comparison, 24 were Pfizer recipients while seven had taken the AstraZeneca vaccine.”

Saw a chart posted somewhere in this forum, that 75% of the vaxxed are Sinovac. 

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1 hour ago, Wt_know said:

booster shot or no booster shot

the writings are clearly on the WALL liao

everyone will tio covid ... slowly but surely

current vaccine has no "protection" from infection ... 

simi S, P, A, M vaccine ... all cannot protect you from infection 

those vaccinated even with booster shot will still tio covid

now hopefully ... with vaccine + booster = tio covid MC 3 days ... 

so ... every country all their people will tio covid 

those cannot than may kena knock-out?  

 

15 minutes ago, Jman888 said:

after 1 year you still thinking vaccine is to shield you from infection?

This youtuber highlight WHO stand. Vaccine alone ott other measures alone is not the key. It's Vaccines AND other measures.

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sy54I6fGFEA&t=1149s

 

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Those who had Sinovac, Sinopharm jabs must get third dose to keep fully vaccinated status: MOH
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/those-who-had-sinovac-sinopharm-jabs-must-get-third-dose-to-keep-fully-vaccinated

“SINGAPORE - Some 70,000 people who took two Sinovac or Sinopharm jabs have till Dec 31 to get their third dose in order to keep their fully vaccinated status from Jan 1, while the grace period for children turning 13 next year to get fully vaccinated has been extended by two months to March 1.”

 

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askST: Will I lose fully vaccinated status if I don't get third Sinovac or Sinopharm dose by Dec 31?
https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/askst-will-i-lose-fully-vaccinated-status-if-i-dont-get-third-sinovac-or-sinopharm

“Q: What happens if I lose my fully vaccinated status?

A: Your vaccination status will show "additional dose needed". This means that you will be subject to vaccination-differentiated safe management measures that restrict you from going to places like shopping malls and libraries.”

[Sosaria]

37 minutes ago, happy_man said:

We got to remember that many can't wait for Sinovac to be approved and were prepared to pay up to S$25 admin-fee per jab just to stay away from mRNA-based vaccines until 23 Oct this year. All these while, gov were pushing hard on Pfrizer-BioNT vaccination...  By then nearly 4 months had passed after WHO approved the China-made vaccine on 1 June 2021.

My question is - Why the delay ?

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/health/sinovac-included-in-singapores-national-covid-19-vaccination-programme-3-doses

 

Because govt want to encourage people to take the mRNA shots as much as possible. Vaccines don't 100% prevent infection, but measurements still back up the fact that immune response from mRNA shots is higher than sinovac shots.

Even my PRC friends do not dispute this point about efficacy; however, for those that still choose sinovac, their choice is mainly motivated by worry of facing problems when trying to return home, or if you press them for an answer, most will just say that they fear unknown side effect of mRNA vaccine.

Now personally for me, I also accept there is unknown side effect, don't talk about long term, it may show up sooner, as some have reported after taking the shots. That's why though I believe mRNA vaccine is more effective, but having been twice lucky, I don't want to try a 3rd time  It's enough for now.

 

Edited December 7, 2021 by Sosaria

[13177]

39 minutes ago, Sosaria said:

Because govt want to encourage people to take the mRNA shots as much as possible. Vaccines don't 100% prevent infection, but measurements still back up the fact that immune response from mRNA shots is higher than sinovac shots.

Even my PRC friends do not dispute this point about efficacy; however, for those that still choose sinovac, their choice is mainly motivated by worry of facing problems when trying to return home, or if you press them for an answer, most will just say that they fear unknown side effect of mRNA vaccine.

Now personally for me, I also accept there is unknown side effect, don't talk about long term, it may show up sooner, as some have reported after taking the shots. That's why though I believe mRNA vaccine is more effective, but having been twice lucky, I don't want to try a 3rd time  It's enough for now.

But some people might tell you that they have taken 3 shots of mRNA still no problem or have any bad side effects?! Lol. Also due to omicron, many countries also asking people to get vaccine and go for booster to get protection. So difficult to say its enough liao?!

Edited December 7, 2021 by 13177

[inlinesix]

10 hours ago, 13177 said:

But some people might tell you that they have taken 3 shots of mRNA still no problem or have any bad side effects?! Lol. Also due to omicron, many countries also asking people to get vaccine and go for booster to get protection. So difficult to say its enough liao?!

For Sinovac, 1st and 2nd Jab has 4 weeks interval. 

3rd jab will be 4 months after that.

It is likely a booster 6 months after that.

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For mRNA, 1st and 2nd jab has 2 weeks interval.

Booster will be 6 months after that.

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Same same??

[ToyotaShuttle]

11 hours ago, 13177 said:

But some people might tell you that they have taken 3 shots of mRNA still no problem or have any bad side effects?! Lol. Also due to omicron, many countries also asking people to get vaccine and go for booster to get protection. So difficult to say its enough liao?!

That's correct. 

And some people tio covid also no problem right?

[Datsun366]

Simi si 国药？

How can restaurant chain publicize this term with other vaccines in Sg?

Quietly change the placard la.