2021 Hyundai Ioniq 5 EV

[Dannnn]

@PharAstro 160k+ ?

[Bmxcar]

51 minutes ago, PharAstro said:

I managed to secure one of the 50. 🙂  Anyone else?

Able to share more details with us? 😅

[lexiton]

so how to charge in HDB without charging point?

[PharAstro]

 

Well, as @Didu mentioned, there were two models.

1) RWD, 72kwh, base model.  Still nice, just without the bells and whistles.

2) AWD, 72kwh, top of the line model, like in all the reviews.  Adds Bose audio, power seats (all of them), sliding center console, surround view cameras (super cool), self and remote parking capability, 20 inch wheels, a few exterior lighting and trim enhancements, and the all-but-useless solar roof (good talking point, but use-less).  That's the only thing I wish was different.  The panoramic glass roof would have been much more interesting.

The event was by invitation, only.  And of those that were invited, many were disappointed when they showed up.  All 50 (that was the allocation from Korea) were gone within about 24 hours.  The two models were on display in the special showroom at Komoco.  No test drives at that time.  Those that booked could select which of the two models and the exterior color.  They initially offered three interior color choices, but then for some reason, the powers that be decided they would all have the same interior (Pebble grey, or two-tone grey from the reviews).  The color is very light, but nice.

Those that booked were offered a test drive a couple weeks later, after the cars passed LTA muster.  I drove the AWD.  It's quiet and smooth, like EV's are.  It's unnecessarily, but pleasantly fast.  The i-Pedal, which my Ioniq 28 doesn't have, is very nice.  I immediately liked it.  The ride is not stiff, but less soft and pitchy than my Ioniq 28.  The long wheelbase is very evident when turning.

I had found the owner's manual online and read it (647 pages) before the test drive.  My sales-person was impressed and invited me to try the self-parking and remote features.  So we tried, and they worked.  It's not perfect, but it does manage to parallel and perpendicular park at the touch of a button.  The parallel parking seemed to always end up quite far from the curb, right on the external lot markers.  We didn't have time to investigate, but Komoco took the action to feed that back to Hyundai.  Perpendicular parking worked well, though we didn't try a very tight lot.  You do need a bit of patience.  The remote feature is easy to use and will definitely help when you find yourself in a tight lot.

Bottom line: The car is everything I expected, and it will be a long wait until end-November...

The deal includes this BaaS scheme, "Battery as a Service".  To me it wasn't presented very well.  But it might be a good thing.  It is possible that was effective in reducing the OMV, and therefore price of the car.  But there was no transparency.  What they told us was: "You're getting a big discount in exchange for signing up with a specific SP Mobility charging package for 18 months AND agreeing to let them (Hyundai/SP Mobility) track your driving and charging habits with a connected monitoring device in the vehicle, for 5 years.  There are penalties for early withdrawal.  Personally, I'm happy to contribute some data to science, marketing and the bettering of future EV's, so I'm ok with the monitoring bit.  The subscription, I just consider part of the total cost and I get to enjoy some free charging.  

The battery has an 8 year, 160,000km, 70% SOH warranty.

I guess that's enough for now.  Hope this helps.  I'm still looking to connect with others that have booked the car, so we can compare notes after we take possession...

Edited August 25, 2021 by PharAstro

[bonjin]

3 hours ago, PharAstro said:

 

Well, as @Didu mentioned, there were two models.

1) RWD, 72kwh, base model.  Still nice, just without the bells and whistles.

2) AWD, 72kwh, top of the line model, like in all the reviews.  Adds Bose audio, power seats (all of them), sliding center console, surround view cameras (super cool), self and remote parking capability, 20 inch wheels, a few exterior lighting and trim enhancements, and the all-but-useless solar roof (good talking point, but use-less).  That's the only thing I wish was different.  The panoramic glass roof would have been much more interesting.

The event was by invitation, only.  And of those that were invited, many were disappointed when they showed up.  All 50 (that was the allocation from Korea) were gone within about 24 hours.  The two models were on display in the special showroom at Komoco.  No test drives at that time.  Those that booked could select which of the two models and the exterior color.  They initially offered three interior color choices, but then for some reason, the powers that be decided they would all have the same interior (Pebble grey, or two-tone grey from the reviews).  The color is very light, but nice.

Those that booked were offered a test drive a couple weeks later, after the cars passed LTA muster.  I drove the AWD.  It's quiet and smooth, like EV's are.  It's unnecessarily, but pleasantly fast.  The i-Pedal, which my Ioniq 28 doesn't have, is very nice.  I immediately liked it.  The ride is not stiff, but less soft and pitchy than my Ioniq 28.  The long wheelbase is very evident when turning.

I had found the owner's manual online and read it (647 pages) before the test drive.  My sales-person was impressed and invited me to try the self-parking and remote features.  So we tried, and they worked.  It's not perfect, but it does manage to parallel and perpendicular park at the touch of a button.  The parallel parking seemed to always end up quite far from the curb, right on the external lot markers.  We didn't have time to investigate, but Komoco took the action to feed that back to Hyundai.  Perpendicular parking worked well, though we didn't try a very tight lot.  You do need a bit of patience.  The remote feature is easy to use and will definitely help when you find yourself in a tight lot.

Bottom line: The car is everything I expected, and it will be a long wait until end-November...

The deal includes this BaaS scheme, "Battery as a Service".  To me it wasn't presented very well.  But it might be a good thing.  It is possible that was effective in reducing the OMV, and therefore price of the car.  But there was no transparency.  What they told us was: "You're getting a big discount in exchange for signing up with a specific SP Mobility charging package for 18 months AND agreeing to let them (Hyundai/SP Mobility) track your driving and charging habits with a connected monitoring device in the vehicle, for 5 years.  There are penalties for early withdrawal.  Personally, I'm happy to contribute some data to science, marketing and the bettering of future EV's, so I'm ok with the monitoring bit.  The subscription, I just consider part of the total cost and I get to enjoy some free charging.  

The battery has an 8 year, 160,000km, 70% SOH warranty.

I guess that's enough for now.  Hope this helps.  I'm still looking to connect with others that have booked the car, so we can compare notes after we take possession...

thanks for sharing in such detail - and grats on being one of the lucky 50! which colour did you choose btw? i think i would have gone for either the digital teal green or the mystic olive. i liked shooting star gray until i realised it was a matt finish

also, what would be the range of these 2 models, and do they come with the vehicle to load feature?

did they advise as to what it will take to be able to charge the vehicle from home? would there be need of specific equipment that can maximise the charge rate for example?

[PharAstro]

@bonjin 

30 minutes ago, bonjin said:

thanks for sharing in such detail - and grats on being one of the lucky 50! which colour did you choose btw? i think i would have gone for either the digital teal green or the mystic olive. i liked shooting star gray until i realised it was a matt finish

also, what would be the range of these 2 models, and do they come with the vehicle to load feature?

did they advise as to what it will take to be able to charge the vehicle from home? would there be need of specific equipment that can maximise the charge rate for example?

We debated those two color and decided on the Digital Teal Green.  The show car was Gravity Gold Matte, which looks nice online, but I didn't love in real life.  Also couldn't convince myself matte was a good idea for a car.  We actually would have gone with the "Dark Teal" interior, too, but that wasn't offered.

Published range is close to 500km.  I think real world will be 400'ish.

The AWD has V2L (internal and external).  Not sure about the RWD,

Charging is Singapore standard Type-2/CCS connector.  I believe the specs indicate 11kw AC (1-phase, 48A).  Most chargers on the market will be 7kw (32A).   Of course, it can super-fast DC charge too at something like 200kw.  But most of the public DC chargers currently in operation in SG are 50kw.  Presumably, faster ones will be coming.

BTW, there's an Ioniq 5 forum at ioniqforum.com that is pretty active.

[Rm2s]

@PharAstro looking forward to see the car on the road, wish I could afford one.

[Dannnn]

@PharAstro How much is the yearly road tax for this?

[bonjin]

19 hours ago, PharAstro said:

@bonjin 

We debated those two color and decided on the Digital Teal Green.  The show car was Gravity Gold Matte, which looks nice online, but I didn't love in real life.  Also couldn't convince myself matte was a good idea for a car.  We actually would have gone with the "Dark Teal" interior, too, but that wasn't offered.

Published range is close to 500km.  I think real world will be 400'ish.

The AWD has V2L (internal and external).  Not sure about the RWD,

Charging is Singapore standard Type-2/CCS connector.  I believe the specs indicate 11kw AC (1-phase, 48A).  Most chargers on the market will be 7kw (32A).   Of course, it can super-fast DC charge too at something like 200kw.  But most of the public DC chargers currently in operation in SG are 50kw.  Presumably, faster ones will be coming.

BTW, there's an Ioniq 5 forum at ioniqforum.com that is pretty active.

yeah i suspect that V2L is removed for the RWD variant given the large price discount. good to know that you have it for the AWD version. sounds like it is pretty much the full top-range model you are getting. the pic of that test drive car from a couple pages earlier was probably the RWD trim, with the smaller rims and such.

but it is definitely quite attractive at this price point, considering the tucson is already going for 150-160k, and how much the model 3 costs. a couple of months back i was told that they were going to price the ioniq 5 above 200k and that put me off right away. had i known it was to be sold at this price range, maybe i might have badgered my SE a little more for a chance to book it, not sure if it would have mattered though 😛 

[PharAstro]

19 hours ago, Dannnn said:

@PharAstro How much is the yearly road tax for this?

This is 2023 Ioniq 5 road tax (12 months).  2022 would be $300 less.  Formula available here.  Do not use the road tax calculator found a the LTA website. It is wrong (will give $3,000+ for the AWD72 Ioniq 5).  I provided feedback to LTA and they replied the calculator should be updated by mid-November.

[Hons]

On 8/25/2021 at 2:04 AM, lexiton said:

so how to charge in HDB without charging point?

if you're lucky, your HDB carpark will have charger soon (Ang Mo Kio, Bedok, Choa Chu Kang, Jurong West, Punggol, Queenstown, Sembawang and Tengah). else the wait will be a bit longer. beside HDB carparks, maybe you can have access to a nearby or convenient Shell Petrol Station with fast charger or commercial/industrial building with SP Services fast charger.
There is also a concierge EV charging service that you can call. I believe the promotional price is still available. check https://autoapp.sg/autoapp-ev-charging/

Edited August 26, 2021 by Hons

[lexiton]

8 hours ago, PharAstro said:

This is 2023 Ioniq 5 road tax (12 months).  2022 would be $300 less.  Formula available here.  Do not use the road tax calculator found a the LTA website. It is wrong (will give $3,000+ for the AWD72 Ioniq 5).  I provided feedback to LTA and they replied the calculator should be updated by mid-November.

the road tax is crazy high for a vehicle that produces less environmental waste than ICE cars

[Bmxcar]

10 hours ago, PharAstro said:

This is 2023 Ioniq 5 road tax (12 months).  2022 would be $300 less.  Formula available here.  Do not use the road tax calculator found a the LTA website. It is wrong (will give $3,000+ for the AWD72 Ioniq 5).  I provided feedback to LTA and they replied the calculator should be updated by mid-November.

This is including the $700 Additional Flat Component per year?

[PharAstro]

2 hours ago, Bmxcar said:

This is including the $700 Additional Flat Component per year?

Yes.  They have to get their revenue somehow...  But IMO, the new formula is messed up (it actually has a discontinuity at 230kw).  I suspect it will change again.

[teomingern]

Wow! $138K is very tempting... only charging is an issue still...

[Fitmugen]

On 8/27/2021 at 12:27 PM, teomingern said:

Wow! $138K is very tempting... only charging is an issue still...

Yes it is. Honestly, I won’t mind paying $10k to those 50 who secured to take over their deal

[Fellows]

 

[Hons]

IONIQ 5 is open for booking now. Book now with just $500 refundable deposit and you will be in font of the queue.