Increase comfort level

[Ct3833]

whatever TS will be doing is likely  going to be a waste of his money. He has never had problem before until he had his first baby , that is because he became more conscious with  the ride comfort of the car when having a baby in his car . The car , in reality  did not change in any way except if any, went through slow progressive degradation due to aging. But what cause the realisation of the car condition is not the car itself but because of the baby in the car. He wanted the baby to have a smooth ride, he try to avoid waking up the baby when he/she is sleeping in the car.

We have to understand, his car has a stiff shocks setup, it will not only make the ride feels hard but likewise,  the acceleration will be more phenomenon and braking will be felt  more harsh because of the stiff shocks, not because the car being too powerful or brake becoming too effective . It will be foolish for anoy one to suggest making a brake to becoming less effective.  

Another point to note is the small wheel of his car, the smaller the wheels are ,  the more bumpy the ride would be because of the smaller wheel diameter in contact with the road. A larger diameter wheel provide better rolling and stable comfort to the ride. 

length of wheelbase is the other contributing factor, the shorter the wheelbase is , the more bumpy a car would be , a longer wheelbase allows a car to ride over bumps more smoothly because of the stretched length. Zc31s has less than 2.4m wheelbase while even a small Altis has 2.7m wheelbase , the comparison just does not match up. 

But the experience of TS is not unusual, any new parent who has a baby in his car would likely have the same experience feeling his car or his driving becoming less comfortable. This is especially so when the first day the baby is on the way home after  discharging from  hospital. 

do point out if I am wrong. 

 

 

Edited February 19, 2021 by Ct3833

[Thaiyotakamli]

2 hours ago, Mkl22 said:

We all forgot to ask him what tire pressures. Maybe it was too high. 
the fix is free. 
trying luck.... 😀

Yah set to 200-220psi. Sometimes tyre pressure too high

 

 

[Kklee]

IMHO.
Anything further than stock suspension,  stock rim size and tyres and tyre pressure,  handling and safety may be compromised.
The alternative could be adding "suspension" to the baby seat ? 

[inlinesix]

Change CAR

[Goldenvodka]

My tyre pressure was set to the label as stated on the car itself

29 for rear and 30+ can’t remember exact for front. 

[Optramagnum]

Like many bro had said, I think other than tyres, any further modification is waste of money and time.

Alternatively, TS can consider trading in for Honda Fit/Jazz. Slightly more spacious and definitely more comfy ride(provided its in stock condition). 

Edited February 20, 2021 by Optramagnum

[ER-3682]

Suzuki Swift Sport is a Pocket Rocket with very short Wheelbase,usually Small Cars with Short Wheelbase will have a Rough Ride...TS can consider change to a small age Camry or Teana..if He want comfort.

[Beregond]

10 hours ago, yellowshaun said:

From what I understand, TS main issue is the powerful acceleration and braking power (lateral movement). So far most of the advice has been about the vertical movement on suspension and tyres =D

Got people tune car for more power right, can tune for less power? =D

acceleration and braking is control by our right foot ma.

its not the car in this case, its the driver, just learn to drive more gently.

give u a s350 benz, u drive like a f1 driver, will also feel like shit right

[Mkl22]

24 minutes ago, Optramagnum said:

Like many bro had said, I think other than tyres, any further modification is waste of money and time.

Alternatively, TS can consider trading in for Honda Fit/Jazz. Slightly more spacious and definitely more comfy ride(provided its in stock condition). 

The just replaced fit jazz has a harsh ride. The rear is also quite bouncy. 
maybe latest one is better? 
 

[Mkl22]

9 hours ago, Ct3833 said:

whatever TS will be doing is likely  going to be a waste of his money. He has never had problem before until he had his first baby , that is because he became more conscious with  the ride comfort of the car when having a baby in his car . The car , in reality  did not change in any way except if any, went through slow progressive degradation due to aging. But what cause the realisation of the car condition is not the car itself but because of the baby in the car. He wanted the baby to have a smooth ride, he try to avoid waking up the baby when he/she is sleeping in the car.

We have to understand, his car has a stiff shocks setup, it will not only make the ride feels hard but likewise,  the acceleration will be more phenomenon and braking will be felt  more harsh because of the stiff shocks, not because the car being too powerful or brake becoming too effective . It will be foolish for anoy one to suggest making a brake to becoming less effective.  

Another point to note is the small wheel of his car, the smaller the wheels are ,  the more bumpy the ride would be because of the smaller wheel diameter in contact with the road. A larger diameter wheel provide better rolling and stable comfort to the ride. 

length of wheelbase is the other contributing factor, the shorter the wheelbase is , the more bumpy a car would be , a longer wheelbase allows a car to ride over bumps more smoothly because of the stretched length. Zc31s has less than 2.4m wheelbase while even a small Altis has 2.7m wheelbase , the comparison just does not match up. 

But the experience of TS is not unusual, any new parent who has a baby in his car would likely have the same experience feeling his car or his driving becoming less comfortable. This is especially so when the first day the baby is on the way home after  discharging from  hospital. 

do point out if I am wrong. 

 

 

Agree and disagree with some points. 

 Nothing much can be done with the wheels. The overall diameter is the more or less the same. At most +- 5%. 
unlike bicycles with a 29, 26, 16in type of wheels, where the % difference can be huge, it is the overall suspension more than the wheels of the car that affects. You hear of people changing to lightweight wheels with only very slight improvements. 

wheelbase. yes smaller wheelbase makes for more fore and aft pitching. Not much can be done. 
I still say he can try changing the rear shocks to the standard swift one. The swift sport Monroe units have a strong rebound making it a stiff jittery ride.

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Beregond said:

acceleration and braking is control by our right foot ma.

its not the car in this case, its the driver, just learn to drive more gently.

give u a s350 benz, u drive like a f1 driver, will also feel like shit right

Disagree.

For a car with sensitive throttle input, no matter how gent you drive, it will still be jerky.

Brake is even worst.  Unless roll for a long time to full stop, it will be jerky in the end.

Test drive my Mini you will know.

[kobayashiGT]

16 hours ago, Goldenvodka said:

Need some valuable inputs from the experts here.

 I am currently driving a 12 years old Suzuki Swift Sport ZC31S.

I must say the driving experience has been great along these years. My entire family is small sized hence space is not an issue and personally I like to drive small cars.

Until the recent years after my first child was born. I start to feel the car has 0 level of comfort. Suspension is horrible, can feel every bump on the road. 

Wind/road noise seems fine. Suspension is really dam rough

I tried doing the following things to "soften the suspension"

1) Swap aftermarket suspension back to stock. A good condition item

2) Tyres downsized to 15" 195/60/15

I am not looking for comfort levels of the standards of luxury cars but looking forward to enhance the comfort of my ride to the likes of maybe a old altis/latio/elantra?

If the following can be fulfilled with any aftermarket solution, any opinion is much welcomed!

1) Tone down the acceleration and braking power. Every time when I apply gas/brakes my family members will make noise they "surge forward/backwards"

2) A softer and more comfortable suspension as compared to stock.

3) If I change Tyres to 185/60/15 will it improve on anything?

By the way my entire vehicle is stock for these years

Sorry if this post is weird in anyway. I am just looking for a more comfortable ride for my family without the need to buying a new car.

1) Tone down the acceleration and braking power. Every time when I apply gas/brakes my family members will make noise they "surge forward/backwards"

- If you are driving an automatic transmission, then install a throttle controller and switch the mode to eco, it will give the acceleration some lag and you won't have the push feeling you are feeling.

2) A softer and more comfortable suspension as compared to stock.

- you need to change up all your bushing. an 12 yr old car, the bushing should be harden le. Can help improve to absorb some bumps when driving, If a normal swift suspension can used on  zc31s, you should change to that. not stock ZC31s one.

3) If I change Tyres to 185/60/15 will it improve on anything?

will lah. 60 quite thick. will helps with comfort.

 

Anyway, congrats on your newborn! good to know you still wanna have some motoring needs while taking care of your family's comfort. Respect!

[Jamesc]

185/60/15

60 series tires, can get 65 series or not?

And 15 inch tires, can go to 14 inch and 65 or even better 70 series tires?

Ideally 175/70/14. Tire pressure 200 - 210.

165/80 R14

New Swift Car Tyres:

The base variants of Swift viz. LXi, LDi, VXi & VDi get 165/80 R14 tubeless radial tyres fitted on steel wheels whereas the high-end variants ZXi and ZDi are equipped with 185/70 R14 tubeless radial tyres fitted on alloy wheels.

 

  

 

[Mkl22]

43 minutes ago, Jamesc said:

185/60/15

60 series tires, can get 65 series or not?

And 15 inch tires, can go to 14 inch and 65 or even better 70 series tires?

Ideally 175/70/14. Tire pressure 200 - 210.

165/80 R14

New Swift Car Tyres:

The base variants of Swift viz. LXi, LDi, VXi & VDi get 165/80 R14 tubeless radial tyres fitted on steel wheels whereas the high-end variants ZXi and ZDi are equipped with 185/70 R14 tubeless radial tyres fitted on alloy wheels.

 

  

 

Front brake caliper and rotor too big for 14in. 

[Thaiyotakamli]

3 hours ago, Beregond said:

acceleration and braking is control by our right foot ma.

its not the car in this case, its the driver, just learn to drive more gently.

give u a s350 benz, u drive like a f1 driver, will also feel like shit right

True and drive slowly, imagine driving 60kmh vs 100kmh which one more more dizzy for rear passenger?

[Thaiyotakamli]

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

Disagree.

For a car with sensitive throttle input, no matter how gent you drive, it will still be jerky.

Brake is even worst.  Unless roll for a long time to full stop, it will be jerky in the end.

Test drive my Mini you will know.

Lousy car😆

 

actually i got test drove a car with active gas pedal, a small tap indeed will jerk

[Jamesc]

14 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

Front brake caliper and rotor too big for 14in. 

No wonder TS complain brakes too strong and his family complain everytime he brakes they surge forwards.

Maybe he can change normal swift smaller brakes?

Increase comfort and no more complaints on hard braking.

[Ct3833]

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

Disagree.

For a car with sensitive throttle input, no matter how gent you drive, it will still be jerky.

Brake is even worst.  Unless roll for a long time to full stop, it will be jerky in the end.

Test drive my Mini you will know.

In addition, your mini also have  short shocks, small wheels and short wheelbase lah. Haha  . I test drove a cabrio and nearly bought  from an ang moh as my lifestyle car  but the guy back out last min.