5 dead in Tanjong Pagar speeding accident

[Throttle2]

3 minutes ago, Jellandross said:

I do not know whether you're acquainted to any of the deceased which may explain your perspective.

But my humble observtion is I don't see any forummers here "harping on it" with negative comments against the deceased families. They deserve our full condolences.

The comments here are all addressing the intention of the deceased culprits. Video evidence has clearly shown that the incident was an intentionally planned and recorded reckless act so let's not whitewash it as an innocent tragedy.

The culprits had zero regards for the value of other people's lives. Period.

understand that he is Showster.  One and only 大小通杀! 😂

[ER-3682]

52 minutes ago, Lethalstrike said:

Should have modded meth injection for their brains. All 5 of them are young adults in their mid to late twenties but still don't know how to think. 

Anyway, speaking of car workshop stories, it reminded of a car workshop a damn long time ago which suggested to me that they can drop in a 1.8 litre B18 to replace my 1.6 B16. The head mechanic even said LTA won't know as visually both blocks looked the same. This was in the 90s era when I was still dabbling around with ah beng VTECs 😂

McWell is it.?

[macrosszero]

23 minutes ago, Weez911 said:

A few years back we have dinner with a senior Porsche engineer* in Munich and he advised car buyers to keep their car in stock condition because all the manufacturers spent billions developing their cars in a perfect balance / harmony. The drivetrain is developed alongside the brakes, aero, gearbox, etc for the most optimal performance. When you mod 1 area, the rest of the car is not "balanced" anymore, he said. I think it makes sense. I know many enthusiasts love to mod their cars but just be mindful of the risks involved.

*Paiseh can't remember his name. It was organised by a pilot friend who fly there regularly and who also paid to race on the Nürburgring. He knew the engineer during one of his track days and they become friends.

But there are plenty of people who think they know better than professional engineers paid to do their jobs, by getting local workshops to “tune” their cars, slap on stage 1, 2 or 3 mods, to “unlock” the handling and horsepower that manufacturers deem “normal” consumers cannot handle. But of course, being enthusiasts they obviously  have those very skills and passion to deal with the accompanying compromises.

[inlinesix]

1 minute ago, Macrosszero said:

But there are plenty of people who think they know better than professional engineers paid to do their jobs, by getting local workshops to “tune” their cars, slap on stage 1, 2 or 3 mods, to “unlock” the handling and horsepower that manufacturers deem “normal” consumers cannot handle. But of course, being enthusiasts they obviously  have those very skills and passion to deal with the accompanying compromises.

Mass produced car comes with compromised

[Optramagnum]

Driving fast car is ok. But provide the driver knows how to control it. Otherwise, even the slowest car can be a road hazard. 

[Showster]

23 minutes ago, Jellandross said:

I do not know whether you're acquainted to any of the deceased which may explain your perspective.

But my humble observtion is I don't see any forummers here "harping on it" with negative comments against the deceased families. They deserve our full condolences.

The comments here are all addressing the intention of the deceased culprits. Video evidence has clearly shown that the incident was an intentionally planned and recorded reckless act so let's not whitewash it as an innocent tragedy.

The culprits had zero regards for the value of other people's lives. Period.

Do you honestly think anyone doesn’t know how wrong the actions are without adding more fuel?

[inlinesix]

[1fast1]

22 minutes ago, ER-3682 said:

McWell is it.?

Don't you mean Unwell Ventures ? Or McHell Vultures? 😂

Edited February 14, 2021 by Turboflat4

[Jellandross]

11 minutes ago, Showster said:

Do you honestly think anyone doesn’t know how wrong the actions are without adding more fuel?

Do you honestly think such accidents will still happen if anyone know how wrong such actions are?

[Windwaver]

1 hour ago, 13177 said:

Why need to buy a fast car? Or even mod? Speed kills and it really does. 😓 

My favorite 

[Fcw75]

I was posting maybe they are experiencing Adolescent Recklessness in the other thread then I see their age.....probably not.

[Windwaver]

1 hour ago, Lethalstrike said:

Should have modded meth injection for their brains. All 5 of them are young adults in their mid to late twenties but still don't know how to think. 

Anyway, speaking of car workshop stories, it reminded of a car workshop a damn long time ago which suggested to me that they can drop in a 1.8 litre B18 to replace my 1.6 B16. The head mechanic even said LTA won't know as visually both blocks looked the same. This was in the 90s era when I was still dabbling around with ah beng VTECs 😂

Like 'turn' a Lancer into an EVO?

[inlinesix]

This is the best

[1fast1]

59 minutes ago, Weez911 said:

A few years back we have dinner with a senior Porsche engineer* in Munich and he advised car buyers to keep their car in stock condition because all the manufacturers spent billions developing their cars in a perfect balance / harmony. The drivetrain is developed alongside the brakes, aero, gearbox, etc for the most optimal performance. When you mod 1 area, the rest of the car is not "balanced" anymore, he said. I think it makes sense. I know many enthusiasts love to mod their cars but just be mindful of the risks involved.

*Paiseh can't remember his name. It was organised by a pilot friend who fly there regularly and who also paid to race on the Nürburgring. He knew the engineer during one of his track days and they become friends.

When I went up to the Ring myself for my M4 trackday, we had dinner with various people from BMW. One of them was a senior engineer with M division. When I told him a lot of the F10 M5s in Singapore were burning oil, he claimed he'd never heard of the issue. Even though you ask ten F10 M5 owners here and at least five would report having to top up oil between services. I myself had this issue when I owned the car. 

In that example, it may be that he didn't know the stress caused by the local conditions, which may have been a factor (doubt it cos the issue is also mentioned frequently on international M5 forums). But I think it's more likely he was just singing the party line. These guys don't want to let their own company down while their paychecks are still being signed by that company (and often, not even after). 

The same may hold true of the Porsche engineer. Cannot say the car manufacturers are building suboptimally, even though it is well-known they detune to allow for fuel quality, climate variation, emissions standards, etc. 

Edited February 14, 2021 by Turboflat4

[inlinesix]

12 minutes ago, Turboflat4 said:

When I went up to the Ring myself for my M4 trackday, we had dinner with various people from BMW. One of them was a senior engineer with M division. When I told him a lot of the F10 M5s in Singapore were burning oil, he claimed he'd never heard of the issue. Even though you ask ten F10 M5 owners here and at least five would report having to top up oil between services. I myself had this issue when I owned the car. 

In that example, it may be that he didn't know the stress caused by the local conditions, which may have been a factor (doubt it cos the issue is also mentioned frequently on international M5 forums). But I think it's more likely he was just singing the party line. These guys don't want to let their own company down while their paychecks are still being signed by that company (and often, not even after). 

The same may hold true of the Porsche engineer. Cannot say the car manufacturers are building suboptimally, even though it is well-known they detune to allow for fuel quality, climate variation, emissions standards, etc. 

Our climate is not that harsh la.

In Temperate country, summer can be more than 40 deg with 80% or more humidity.

1 of the possible reasons for oil loss could be short driving distance after cold start.

Edited February 14, 2021 by inlinesix

[Lethalstrike]

37 minutes ago, ER-3682 said:

McWell is it.?

Er no. You like the tim sum from Swee Choon? Big hint already 😁😁😁

[Jusnel]

2 hours ago, inlinesix said:

Car insurer will wait for police report.

Insurer will find way to reject the claim.

For sure.

It's either drunk driving or illegal mod.

These 2, confirmed sure have in this case 

[Jusnel]

3 hours ago, Mkl22 said:

Won’t pay for the car, but 3rd party should still cover I think. 
looks like insurance for under 30 will skyrocket if tied to a performance car. No 5k no talk? 
 

If drunk driving is involved, insurer won't pay a cent...... 

 

In this case, at 530am coming out from some Korean restaurant,  the driver is sober?