5 dead in Tanjong Pagar speeding accident

[Windwaver]

18 hours ago, RadX said:

I know her actually…

wilL update if I hear news 

past report of her going home not true.. but in v critical condition 

Bro, no update anywhere about 胡秀慧, how's her condition?

[inlinesix]

Just now, Windwaver said:

Bro, no update anywhere about 胡秀慧, how's her condition?

With 80% of her body burned, minimum 6 months in hospital.

She has to stay in germ free environment till her skin heals.

Nothing to update other than staying in SGH Burn Trauma Centre

[Lala81]

4 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

With 80% of her body burned, minimum 6 months in hospital.

She has to stay in germ free environment till her skin heals.

Nothing to update other than staying in SGH Burn Trauma Centre

Quote

 

Baux score

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Purposedetermine mortality due to burns

The Baux score is a system used to predict the chance of mortality due to burns.[1] The score is an index which takes into account the correlative and causal relationship between mortality and factors including advancing age, burn size, the presence of inhalational injury.[2] Studies have shown that the Baux score is highly correlative with length of stay in hospital due to burns and final outcome.[3]

Original method[edit]

The original Baux score was the addition of two factors, the first being the total body surface area affected by burning (usually estimated using the Wallace rule of nines, or calculated using a Lund and Browder chart) and the second being the age of the patient.

The score is expressed as:

{\displaystyle {\text{Baux score}}={\text{(percent body surface burned)}}+{\text{(patient's age)}}}

The score is a comparative indicator of burn severity, with a score over 140 considered as being unsurvivable, depending on the available treatment resources.

Modified method[edit]

Research demonstrated that with improvements in medical care rendered the original method too pessimistic in its outcome prediction. This resulted in the publication of a modified methodology which took into account the effect of inhalation injury. It was found that inhalation injury resulted in an increase of around 17 on the Baux score, and this addition means that a patient with inhalation injury would have their score calculated by body area affected + age of patient + 17.[1] Recent analysis of mortality in burn units worldwide has shown that for well performing units the LD50 (the point at which 50% of patients would be expected to die) for major burns has significantly improved and the best units have a modified Baux score of 130-140. This means that all burns in children (except 100% TBSA full-thickness burns) should be considered survivable injuries and actively treated.[4]

Efficacy[edit]

Studies have shown Baux score to be effective in measuring comparative severity of burn injuries, and in predicting the prognosis for the patient. The modified version, which includes inhalation injuries, is more accurate than the original method, although neither method is as accurate as more complex calculated scores using advanced computer modelling.[1]

The Baux score has been shown to be effective in predicting outcome in 87% of presenting patients aged 60 and above.[5]

 

So the Baux score for the lady is, 
80 + high 20s = <110
Given it's SGH burns center, she should survive. But it will be many months for recovery. And she's malaysian. She's going to end up with a massive hospital bill, even no matter how much they waive off some of the charge for humanitarian reasons.

Do car insurers pay out for people trying to rescue people from their insured burning car? I don't think so.

 

 

[Fcw75]

3 minutes ago, Lala81 said:

So the Baux score for the lady is, 
80 + high 20s = <110
Given it's SGH burns center, she should survive. But it will be many months for recovery. And she's malaysian. She's going to end up with a massive hospital bill, even no matter how much they waive off some of the charge for humanitarian reasons.

Do car insurers pay out for people trying to rescue people from their insured burning car? I don't think so.

 

 

So ultimately what does that mean in the end? You know I know. 

[Mcscot]

3 hours ago, Albeniz said:

If I have extra money to mod my car, I will get bigger brakes and better tyres.

I will mod it to go safer and slower, not the other way around.

An excellent comment! Let me ask you all - how many of you here can quote the type of tyres and size of tyres you have on at the moment? TBH - the moment I change my tyres ... I forget the type and size I have on BUT that is the only thing that keeps us on the road. Don't scrimp on tyres and please do your research.

[Mcscot]

7 hours ago, Yewheng said:

There will always have people who will think, ai ya it's the driver is lousy, so ya it will not happen to me, ai ya he is just sway and I am not so unlucky one la.. and continue to drive fast and furious, chiong on narrow road and etc..

 

So no matter what education and or video taking or what also no use, as these people will just find excuse to themselves that it will not happen to them. 

Bro ... you are quite right! The younger the driver the less experience. I remember when I was younger and I used to drive a little faster in the UK in my trusty old Proton Saga (a long time ago and it was all I could afford!) ... it did not take much speed for the car to lose control (I cannot wait for the Proton jokes ...). I can still remember the cold sweat and palpitations. I swore never to do it again. I am now much older with family and kid. I plead with one and all ... it is NOT worth the thrill or being tardy for that 10 minutes. 

[Mkl22]

22 hours ago, Volvobrick said:

Don't think it is that fast.... But still enough to kill 5.

 

[SiLangKia]

21 minutes ago, Mcscot said:

An excellent comment! Let me ask you all - how many of you here can quote the type of tyres and size of tyres you have on at the moment? TBH - the moment I change my tyres ... I forget the type and size I have on BUT that is the only thing that keeps us on the road. Don't scrimp on tyres and please do your research.

Challenge accepted:

Brand: Pirelli Pzero (PZ4)

Load/Speed index: 92Y XL 

Size: 225/40R18 

running 38 psi based on recommendation by pirelli for my car and load conditions

rotated front to rear every 10k km

 

 

Did this cos im bored, but yes, understand your point here 🤣

Edited February 14, 2021 by SiLangKia

[Kopites]

1 hour ago, Fcw75 said:

I was posting maybe they are experiencing Adolescent Recklessness in the other thread then I see their age.....probably not.

I read somewhere they have circled a few rounds prior to the crash.

[Fcw75]

4 minutes ago, Kopites said:

I read somewhere they have circled a few rounds prior to the crash.

Mr Song said?

[Lala81]

12 minutes ago, SiLangKia said:

Challenge accepted:

Brand: Pirelli Pzero (PZ4)

Load/Speed index: 92Y XL 

Size: 225/40R18 

running 38 psi based on recommendation by pirelli for my car and load conditions

rotated front to rear every 10k km

 

 

Did this cos im bored, but yes, understand your point here 🤣

I remember the brand. 
Exact size cannot remember, need to check when buying tyres.
230 in front, 225 at back
Workshop forgot to do tyre rotation for me last round, so currently the front tyres getting more botak than the rears already.

 

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Mcscot said:

An excellent comment! Let me ask you all - how many of you here can quote the type of tyres and size of tyres you have on at the moment? TBH - the moment I change my tyres ... I forget the type and size I have on BUT that is the only thing that keeps us on the road. Don't scrimp on tyres and please do your research.

Michelin PS4 205/45 17"

Bought it in 2018

[Mustank]

4 hours ago, Albeniz said:

If I have extra money to mod my car, I will get bigger brakes and better tyres.

I will mod it to go safer and slower, not the other way around.

Me too

if I got money I put bull bar increase protection

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Lala81 said:

So the Baux score for the lady is, 
80 + high 20s = <110
Given it's SGH burns center, she should survive. But it will be many months for recovery. And she's malaysian. She's going to end up with a massive hospital bill, even no matter how much they waive off some of the charge for humanitarian reasons.

Do car insurers pay out for people trying to rescue people from their insured burning car? I don't think so.

Thanks. 

There is no mentioned of her nationality except Malaysia-born

[inlinesix]

Just now, Mustank said:

Me too

if I got money I put bull bar increase protection

Just install a lift kit.

Cars will go under your musso.

[RadX]

1 hour ago, Windwaver said:

Bro, no update anywhere about 胡秀慧, how's her condition?

Nothing yet

grapevine has not updated 

[Mustank]

3 hours ago, inlinesix said:

Unlikely Aviva. High power car insurance is very niche.

Some more owner below 30 years old.

No bad publicity here unless the car crashed into poor household 

 

Heng ah!!! Mine with Aviva

[Mustank]

3 hours ago, Turboflat4 said:

Aviva will insure M4 lah. You see their online quote interface. Cars like BMW M4, Porsche 911, Maserati can be found and, in principle, quoted. Even Audi R8 can be found. 

Ferrari, Lamborghini, McLaren totally unsearchable. 

So high powered cars may be covered but not exotic supercar marques. Models which are considered supercars from more pedestrian makes (like the Mercedes AMG GT and Audi R8) may be insurable though. 

Oh no!