OFFICIAL: Tesla Singapore Discussion

[Invigorated]

Carlite isnt about fewer car owners. It's about fewer car owners driving their cars.

Please don't forget about ERP-gps.

When every road eventually pays, u may have a car but you may leave it in the car park unless u really have to drive or when ERP isn't too ex.

Govt wins.

1) COE revenues go up or maintains as pple still buy up. Car parks are built more horizontally upwards so land is maximised anyway.

2) Sat-ERP ensures car lite and usage tax will be deemed as a fairer system. 

3) EVs lead to more revenue in the form of higher lump sum tax. It's 200 now and soon to up to 700 soon for early adopters. I would think that this is set to rise too as EVs become more common as govt loses more from petrol duties.

4) fewer petrol stations also mean more land for building residential or commercial projects. Lesser pollution for those staying around too.

Sorry this topic is about Tesla but I guess we all know that there is a price to pay for convenience in future. Anything that is cheap here is only a mirage. 

Don't project the cost savings for the future as prices are likely to normalise towards what we are paying for petrol today.

[Meanmachine]

On 9 February, 2021 at 3:40 PM, Thaiyotakamli said:

I am not concerned by batt but rather with electronic things. With so much sensors, automation and high tech i believe those things will fail more. Tesla gave 4 yrs warranty for that and afterward we don’t know

    Fully agreed, just look at the new model of conti cars like Audi VW, Merc, BMW & Opel ( German made ), it is like crazy, once the dashboard screen lighted up, one has to bring in w/s for checks and  computer diagnosis, my concern is the after sales services .

    I always take into consideration of After sales whereby once you sign on the dotted line and collection of car, the S.E disappear, your car will be in the hands of a sales consultant advisor, this part of interaction is lost hence relationship has to be established in particularly Conti made cars. My confidence level will go up with Japanese or Korean electric made manufacturer. ( after sales service ) would be a grade better. My 0.02cts

[Meanmachine]

Frankly speaking, once EV car are in motion here, we can kiss goodbye to JB . hahaha !

 

[Roh96]

9 minutes ago, Meanmachine said:

Frankly speaking, once EV car are in motion here, we can kiss goodbye to JB . hahaha !

 

Hard to say, who knows JB may offer cheaper electricity. 

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, velocity- said:

Speed. Sp ac charging has 43kw. But the standard range is limited to 7.2kw and the perfomance is limited to 11kw. Most evs are limited to 11kw currently. This will take around 7-8 hours charging via ac for both model 3s from 0-100.

Only the Taycan with an upgraded 22kw ac charger (6k costs) apparently can charge at 22kw. And the Renault zoe

dc on the other hand is fast charge. Means you can cramp in 50kwh in one hour of charging. However please not that with all dc fast charge, the charge slows significantly after 80% to protect the battery

That’s why it is a good idea to charge the battery when it drops to 50%.

From 50%, charge it back to 80%.

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Intervuurt said:

Thanks bro.  I have sent you a PM with some queries.  I like the transparency on the Tesla purchase website - the lack of transparency by the G on the road tax issue is perplexing.  Hopefully they can explain themselves rather than just impose the tax and leave everyone to assume that they are just being greedy. 

Has G being transparent about CNG & Diesel?
It is good to be early adopter to enjoy the benefit 1st.

Once EV population increased, benefits like 45k rebate will disappear.

[velocity-]

2 hours ago, Meanmachine said:

    Fully agreed, just look at the new model of conti cars like Audi VW, Merc, BMW & Opel ( German made ), it is like crazy, once the dashboard screen lighted up, one has to bring in w/s for checks and  computer diagnosis, my concern is the after sales services .

    I always take into consideration of After sales whereby once you sign on the dotted line and collection of car, the S.E disappear, your car will be in the hands of a sales consultant advisor, this part of interaction is lost hence relationship has to be established in particularly Conti made cars. My confidence level will go up with Japanese or Korean electric made manufacturer. ( after sales service ) would be a grade better. My 0.02cts

sorry i disagree. tesla architecture of car is software based. everything can be remotely controlled and diagnosed. buttons on the screen can change position and they can add functions with an over the air update. Unlike traditional cars especially continental ones, there may be more screens and buttons serve and individual and specific purpose. this means more wiring and more things to go wrong. with tesla, there is less wiring and less buttons. only 2 stalks, 2 wheels on the button and a hazard light switch. 

my friends overseas who have teslas love the updates. every update usually brings new features and fix user reported issues, so the car is always evolving. features like sentry mode ( the car uses its cameras all round to record when someone comes near ur car when parked. this replaces the need for a dashcam)., dog mode(u can lock the car and leave the climate on for a dog inside the car while u go to a store to buy things), dash cam, when u press the horn, it saves the last 1 hour of driving videos captured by the camera so u can replay it in case of an accident. also, because of the network functionality, they dont have to pay a visit to a service centre. simply open the app, press support and take a picture and describe whats wrong. Tesla will then diagnose the car over the air (usually it can solve it) and if a visit to service is really needed, they send one of their mobile technicians down at your convenience. they also might drive down a loaner car, and take ur car back to the service centre. honestly, no other brand in singapore has this kind of service. even with my reliable toyota, if there is a problem, I have to bring it down to a workshop or borneo to diagnose and there is usually a diagnostic fee. 

generally people i know also seem to praise tesla aftersales. help is simple, click a button in the app and they take care of everything. no more nonsense of dealing with service advisors who try to sell u maintenance package and polishing. no more being taken for a ride with 500 dollar service trips.

the car is simply simpler and more straight forward yet advanced than any of ur conti/jap/korean car. 


 

 

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

That’s why it is a good idea to charge the battery when it drops to 50%.

From 50%, charge it back to 80%.

u r supposed to plug it in every day when u go to work or home. thus every time you leave u have a full charge. i intend to do that. if you leave everyday with a range of 300km, i dont think u need any public chargers. just like an iphone

[inlinesix]

Watch this video from a used car dealer in TW.

 

[inlinesix]

22 minutes ago, velocity- said:

u r supposed to plug it in every day when u go to work or home. thus every time you leave u have a full charge. i intend to do that. if you leave everyday with a range of 300km, i dont think u need any public chargers. just like an iphone

Provided you have access to 1 daily.

[Spidey10]

4 hours ago, boonhat_91 said:

Don't underestimate our scholars hor. The idea is to encourage people to give up cars, via squeezing up the costs (think of boiling a frog in water). If people don't give up their cars or are slow to react to the above encouragement, car-lite will be slow to achieve. But in the slow crawl towards car-lite, G can collect more and more revenue. Beautiful masterstroke.

In summary, G is more serious about car-lite than you or I might think, but the population is not yet serious about it. So why not collect more revenue while waiting for the population to change its mindset?

Hhahah...master stroke of a pen...eeerrr policy!

[Spidey10]

4 hours ago, Invigorated said:

 

Don't project the cost savings for the future as prices are likely to normalise towards what we are paying for petrol today.

for sure...

it's a trap!!

[Volvobrick]

3 hours ago, Roh96 said:

Hard to say, who knows JB may offer cheaper electricity. 

I trust our gahmen to come up with a 3/4 charge rule....

[Spidey10]

3 hours ago, Roh96 said:

Hard to say, who knows JB may offer cheaper electricity. 

maybe SG a pop is $200 and JB is RM$200......So all cheong to JB to pop EV...

[Spidey10]

1 minute ago, Volvobrick said:

I trust our gahmen to come up with a 3/4 charge rule....

is it just me or is it a lot fellas here knows our G very well....

[Volvobrick]

1 minute ago, Spidey10 said:

is it just me or is it a lot fellas here knows our G very well....

Some are gahmen insiders.  Or rather have the gahmen inside their behind for so long already. 

[Hons]

4 hours ago, Roh96 said:

Hard to say, who knows JB may offer cheaper electricity. 

currently JB and most part of Msia do not charge for electricity for EV charging.

 

[Calvin8808]

35 minutes ago, Hons said:

currently JB and most part of Msia do not charge for electricity for EV charging.

 

Singapore for now also? I mean those in malls.

Like Tampines Hub.

[Meanmachine]

2 hours ago, Volvobrick said:

I trust our gahmen to come up with a 3/4 charge rule....

     This i must admit, our Gahmen surely can match em anytime, but then hor merely going in to charge electricity is not worth it unless the car is part hybrid / electric + car wash and car spa - all at one go