Suu Kyi detained

[ToyotaShuttle]

So just need to wayang? Mynmar military can just ban the opposition parties like thailand then hold fake elections and all will be cleared?

Someone call the general and suggest it to him.

[ToyotaShuttle]

2 hours ago, Didu said:

Because the Thais bother to swap their army uniforms for civilian clothes, and have run thru one round of election claiming victory, which none of the international observers raise big hoo-ha on the process. However, we can see from the news that politically Thailand is not stable.

Looks like they are indeed trying to follow the thailand playbook 

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March 11 (Reuters) - Myanmar's ruling military council will only be in control of the country for a certain period of time and will hold an election and hand power to the winning party, its spokesman said on Thursday.

Brigadier General Zaw Min Tun also said Myanmar's military was helping more than 1,000 of its nationals who he said were in trouble in Malaysia by facilitating their return recently. He was referring to a recent mass deportation that human rights groups had sought to block due to concerns about their welfare.

 

[Datsun366]

Now India, China and even Vietnam oso stop UN from labelling it as a coup.

Really die for nothing.

Same story different players...who remembered the uni students that died in early 1900s?

Come back and die again in Myanmar?

Rinse and repeat. Round and round.

Id rather help the army faster transition to 'democratic' guberment before kids start to pay with starvation and illness.

The myanmar must learn to give up on their heroic antics and be practical and realistic, this is cleaning up their gene pool of foolhardy dum dums.

[Didu]

This one giving advice to itself or to Myanmar har?...

Thailand stresses dialogue, trust as solution to Myanmar crisis

Thailand has stressed the importance of dialogue and trust to achieve a peaceful resolution to the conflicts in Myanmar.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/thailand-stresses-dialogue-trust-as-solution-to-myanmar-crisis

[Didu]

Body count is piling up.  

At least 39 reported killed in Myanmar in bloodiest day since start of military coup

Myanmar activists planned more anti-coup rallies on Monday (Mar 15), a day after at least 39 people were killed in clashes with security forces in the commercial hub of Yangon where Chinese-financed factories were torched.

Security forces killed at least 22 pro-democracy protesters in the Hlaingthaya suburb of Yangon on Sunday, an advocacy group said. A further 16 protesters were killed in other places, the Assistance Association for Political Prisoners (AAPP) said, as well as one policeman, making it the bloodiest day since the Feb 1 coup against elected leader Aung San Suu Kyi.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/myanmar-coup-protests-39-killed-chinese-factories-burn-14403562

 

[mersaylee]

Reform must si 🙏😞

[Kb27]

Wage dispute, owner called junta, all hell break loose. 6 dead.

And that's why they want to burn down chinese owned factory.

 

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https://www.myanmar-now.org/en/news/at-least-six-killed-after-factory-owner-calls-in-military-in-hlaing-tharyar

At least six people were killed on Tuesday following a wage dispute at a Chinese-owned shoe factory in Yangon’s Hlaing Tharyar Township after the owner called in the junta’s armed forces. 

The workers had gone to the Xing Jia factory in Industrial Zone (1) to collect their wages, but conflict arose when they were not given the full payment they were owed, according to a Hlaing Tharyar resident from Daing Su ward who was familiar with the incident. 

The owner, a Chinese national, then called the military and police, according to local sources. 

“The soldiers and police came into the factory and surrounded it. The police slapped a girl who was the leader of the workers. When she hit back, they shot her,” the Hlaing Tharyar local told Myanmar Now. 

The troops and police then arrested around 70 workers and loaded them onto two prisoner transport trucks. When people gathered to demand their release, the armed forces opened fire into the crowd, killing five more people, all men. 

“The confrontation at the factory happened in the morning. When we gathered and went to demand the release of the arrested workers, it was about 2:30 in the afternoon,” the Hlaing Tharyar local said. 

“They used live ammunition to shoot us. We all had to run, but five were killed. We couldn’t bring their bodies back, so we had to drag them away and put them in ditches.”

They were able to recover the body of one fallen worker at 9:00 p.m. on Tuesday, and some of the remaining bodies by 4:00 a.m. on Wednesday. 

“We had to hide all night. There were six dead, we got four bodies back. They’re being kept at a Buddhist hall in the ward. We can’t take back two of the bodies, that of the girl shot in the factory and another man,” the local said. 

At the time of reporting, he said he was on the run, along with 17 others, after being reported by another local for leading the protest. That individual is now also reportedly in hiding. 

Injured protesters are being treated at Pun Hlaing hospital. 

Myanmar Now is still gathering further information about the incident, and other reports of new fatal crackdowns in Hlaing Tharyar.  

An official at the Hlaing Tharyar hospital said that no bodies or injured persons had been sent there on March 16 or 17. 

“No one came in last night. The hospital is not far from places like Aung Zeya bridge or Mee Kwat market, so we’d know if there were something happening. The streets were relatively calm in the morning today,” another doctor from the same hospital said.

A local aid group reported that shots had been fired in Yay Oak Kan ward in Hlaing Tharyar, but further details were not known at the time of reporting. 

 

Edited March 18, 2021 by Kb27

[Didu]

Thai army denies supplying rice to Myanmar forces

Direct Thai assistance to the Myanmar military would likely draw criticism from supporters of the ousted government that was led by Aung San Suu Kyi.

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asia/thailand-myanmar-army-denies-supply-rice-14453056

[Playtime]

On 3/18/2021 at 3:04 PM, Kb27 said:

Wage dispute, owner called junta, all hell break loose. 6 dead.

And that's why they want to burn down chinese owned factory.

 

 

Frankly... I'm Chinese... but prc better off stay home.. every bloody thing they touch only creates anti Chinese sentiments that makes life difficult for non prc next time.. 

[Playtime]

On 3/11/2021 at 9:49 AM, Didu said:

UN Security Council really CMI. Still cannot agree on statement to condemn coup. Don't talk about actions.

U.N. Security Council wrestles with threat of action over Myanmar coup

The U.N. Security Council failed to agree on Tuesday on a statement that would have condemned the coup in Myanmar, called for restraint by the military and threatened to consider “further measures,” though diplomats said talks would likely continue. During an initial bid to finalize the text, China, Russia, India and Vietnam all suggested amendments late on Tuesday to a British draft, diplomats said, including removal of the reference to a coup and the threat to consider further action.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-myanmar-politics-un-idUSKBN2B209S

No surprise there. It's about respecting the people's votes. About resurrecting human rights. 

 

Russia = communist..poisons political opponents,  elections are a joke. 

Chinas = communist...worst than Russia.. what is election? What is people vote? Tian Ann Men ah. Knn... concentration camps also call "education ctrs" buay pai seh.

Vietnam = again communist. Though not in China league yet.

India = largest democracy... but Kashmir... cold calculation there, they want keep their options open there. 

 

Ppl kpkb about western countries.. but when shit hits the fan... they always turn to western countries. 

[Voodooman]

On 3/1/2021 at 11:19 AM, inlinesix said:

The country is run by General now.

Can soldier defy Military order?

The question is will the one down and foot soldiers get tired of shooting their own people and turned against the generals?  

Thailand has a King, Myanmar has a few fat cats and their cronies. If this becomes prolonged, it might happen. 

[Voodooman]

On 3/11/2021 at 2:02 PM, Didu said:

Because the Thais bother to swap their army uniforms for civilian clothes, and have run thru one round of election claiming victory, which none of the international observers raise big hoo-ha on the process. However, we can see from the news that politically Thailand is not stable.

Thailand will never be stable when the interest of a few overshadow those of the commoners and the entire country.  

At least they pretend to have a constitution. 

[inlinesix]

17 minutes ago, Voodooman said:

The question is will the one down and foot soldiers get tired of shooting their own people and turned against the generals?  

Thailand has a King, Myanmar has a few fat cats and their cronies. If this becomes prolonged, it might happen. 

There was news of Myanmar foot soldiers became refugees in India.

These soldiers refuse to open fire.

[Playtime]

2 hours ago, Voodooman said:

Thailand will never be stable when the interest of a few overshadow those of the commoners and the entire country.  

At least they pretend to have a constitution. 

Always wondered what it could be if Thaksin had served out his term properly without the entitled old farts insisting they should be in power. 

 

[Voodooman]

4 hours ago, Playtime said:

Always wondered what it could be if Thaksin had served out his term properly without the entitled old farts insisting they should be in power. 

 

He was so popular he is a threat to the system. Won’t happen lah. 

i still want to visit Thailand, better don’t say too much about the royal family, the Lèse-majesté law extends to foreigners.   CCP is a saint in comparison, at least they are trying to do good for the people. The King? 

[Didu]

BBC journalist freed in Myanmar as EU prepares sanctions

The crackdown has drawn international condemnation, and the European Union imposed sanctions on 11 junta officials on Monday, with Germany condemning the level of violence as "completely unacceptable".

Mr Aung Thura, a journalist with the BBC's Burmese service, was detained by men in plain clothes while reporting outside a court in the capital Naypyitaw last Friday.

The broadcaster confirmed on Monday in a news story on its website that he had been freed, but gave no further details.

https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/bbc-journalist-freed-in-myanmar-as-eu-prepares-sanctions

Mr. Aung is lucky. It's still possible to escape jail if one has backing. 

[Jamesc]

ASSK so nasty

no wonder she get locked up.

 

[Didu]

Commentary: Thailand as a model? Why Myanmar military may follow Prayuth's example

It would be far smarter for the Tatmadaw to build support within a pseudo-democratic system—as Thailand’s military has done, says ISEAS’ Dr Paul Chambers.

General Min Aung Hlaing and other Tatmadaw leaders were certainly watching and taking notes when Thailand’s 2014 coup against a popularly-elected civilian democracy sustained itself into a military-dominated pseudo-democracy in 2019.

Arguably, following Myanmar’s Feb 1 coup, Myanmar generals appear to have sought to follow the Thailand model of military control.

That model suggests that militaries can successfully stage coups and guide democracy where strong central governments traditionally dominates but elected civilians cannot control militaries, courts side with the armed forces, and civilians are more divided than security officials.

BUT CLEAR DIFFERENCES REMAIN

There are differences between the Thai case and the situation in Myanmar.

First, Thailand has long been controlled by an arrangement between monarchy and military with the latter as junior partner.  The military derives much power from legitimacy it possesses as guardian of monarchy, especially its closeness to late Rama IX (beloved by most Thais).

His enormous popularity and endorsement of 2006 and 2014 coups (amid Thai divisions regarding Premier Thaksin Shinawatra) left Thais divided but kept the balance skewed towards the military. On the contrary, Myanmar’s coup seemed to have provoked a massive domestic backlash.

Second, having influenced the writing of at least 15 constitutions, Thailand’s military has taken a long path in finally succeeding in engineering political party dominance and gaining national primacy. It has entrenched itself into the political system.

However, in Myanmar, the senior officer corps has long perceived itself as the “rescuer” of the country from colonialism and foreign enemies, ensuring its persevering and privileged national security role.

This viewpoint helped rationalise its 1962, 1988 and 2021 interventions.  At the same time, Tatmadaw officers have become a privileged economic class — the most powerful nationwide.

But that sentiment is not shared by the general public. The country remains disunited, with few civilians enjoying popularity except for Aung San Suu Kyi.

Meanwhile, the military has been more successful at using brute force rather than constructing a successful political party. The death toll has risen sharply to more than 550.

Now the die has been cast. With violent military repression unable to squelch the protests, what can the Tatmadaw do now? There are three paths. 

First, give in to the protestors and revert to the pre-coup system parliamentary democracy.

Second, attempt a Thai model for Myanmar in constructing a new constitution which gives the Tatmadaw much more influence over a new pseudo-democracy.

Establishing such a bicameral political system, with a completely military-appointed Senate, Election Commission and judiciary as well as an electoral formula which, as in post-2019 Thailand, buffers the country against the scenario where any highly-popular party (whether Thaksin’s Pheu Thai in Thailand or Aung San Suu Kyi’s NLD in Myanmar) can translate a sudden electoral majority immediately into a complete parliamentary advantage.

Third, revert to Myanmar’s pre-1990 election history of violent military dictatorship. 

https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/commentary/myanmar-coup-thailand-prawit-military-political-system-lessons-14560352