Retro Clutched January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 Which would you rather go with. Not car specific. Reliability is key concern. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 Aren't S-tronic and DSG the same thing? they just renamed it because it from different brand. I think S-tronic will be better in term of reliability it is supposed to withstand 500nm of torque or more. You daily drive never whack it, I am sure this is more long-lasting. I am driving a manual car. So I am no expert in this. Just kaypoh-ing. hahaha. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Clutched January 7, 2021 Author Share January 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said: Aren't S-tronic and DSG the same thing? they just renamed it because it from different brand. I think S-tronic will be better in term of reliability it is supposed to withstand 500nm of torque or more. You daily drive never whack it, I am sure this is more long-lasting. I am driving a manual car. So I am no expert in this. Just kaypoh-ing. hahaha. Manual, 👍🏼 Yup, technically same same but different I think 🤔 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Retro said: Which would you rather go with. Not car specific. Reliability is key concern. These 2 are very different gearboxes used for very different category cars. The DQ is for entry level cars (VW Golf 1L and the likes) and the DL are for the more expensive cars (e.g. mid range Audis onwards) The "DL" in the DL 501 = Longitudinally mounted (need to have large engine bays), these are not found in entry level or even mid range cars like the Passat. Yes, its a wet clutch and can withstand a much higher level or torque as well, so it should have better reliability. The DQ200 is the dry 7 speeder which has helped VW attract many lawsuits around the world 😁 Edited January 7, 2021 by Rickster 4 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamahbee 5th Gear January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 The DL501 (not 510) and DQ200 are fundamentally different gearboxes, so this question is not exactly valid as a matter of "choice". DL501 - 7-speed wet clutch. Longitudinal layout, max. torque 600Nm. DQ200 - 7-speed dry clutch. Transverse layout, max. torque 250Nm. 5 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beanoyip Turbocharged January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 12 minutes ago, iamahbee said: The DL501 (not 510) and DQ200 are fundamentally different gearboxes, so this question is not exactly valid as a matter of "choice". DL501 - 7-speed wet clutch. Longitudinal layout, max. torque 600Nm. DQ200 - 7-speed dry clutch. Transverse layout, max. torque 250Nm. Should compare with DQ500 instead.. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Clutched January 7, 2021 Author Share January 7, 2021 Yes. Dl501 is on A6 and Dq200 on Passat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contipro 5th Gear January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 49 minutes ago, Rickster said: These 2 are very different gearboxes used for very different category cars. The DQ is for entry level cars (VW Golf 1L and the likes) and the DL are for the more expensive cars (e.g. mid range Audis onwards) The "DL" in the DL 501 = Longitudinally mounted (need to have large engine bays), these are not found in entry level or even mid range cars like the Passat. Yes, its a wet clutch and can withstand a much higher level or torque as well, so it should have better reliability. The DQ200 is the dry 7 speeder which has helped VW attract many lawsuits around the world 😁 ya ya.. wet clutch great and long lasting dry clutch great but higher wear and tear.. 3 year change car no issue, next owner take the bite. If intend to use 10years, please save some money for replace clutch pack to continue enjoy the fun ride.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contipro 5th Gear January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Retro said: Which would you rather go with. Not car specific. Reliability is key concern. anyway why you comparison 2 gearboxes with big torque gap? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Clutched January 7, 2021 Author Share January 7, 2021 7 minutes ago, Contipro said: anyway why you comparison 2 gearboxes with big torque gap? Contemplating a A6 or Passat☺️ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lotr 6th Gear January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Retro said: Which would you rather go with. Not car specific. Reliability is key concern. Reliability concern then should go for wet clutch. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
F10_Blackhawk 4th Gear January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 What’s your budget and the nett price of the A6 vs Passat after considering your trade-in car value (if you are trading in)? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kobayashiGT Internal Moderator January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 1 hour ago, Retro said: Manual, 👍🏼 Yup, technically same same but different I think 🤔 I will need to manually engage the gear thou. Hahahha. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contipro 5th Gear January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 34 minutes ago, Retro said: Contemplating a A6 or Passat☺️ the price range is also a big gap.... honestly i dont know the logic comparing between this two different class. anyway happy shopping ... 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Contipro 5th Gear January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 30 minutes ago, Lotr said: Reliability concern then should go for wet clutch. actual both dry and wet also reliable right.. cannot mix wear & tear as reliability, otherwise some may not happy lah.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Clutched January 7, 2021 Author Share January 7, 2021 18 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said: I will need to manually engage the gear thou. Hahahha. Interesting, used to have few manual too. Not now as family car, wife drives too☺️ 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator January 7, 2021 Share January 7, 2021 40 minutes ago, Retro said: Contemplating a A6 or Passat☺️ The new facelift Passat 2.0TSI come with 7 speed wet clutch DSG (DQ381). DQ200 only for Passat 1.8TSI, which is no longer on sales here (at least for now). Or are you looking for a preowned unit? If that is the case, gearbox is just 1 small part of the consideration. I would check the servicing records and history first to see what the unit have gone though. No servicing record, no buy for me. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Retro Clutched January 7, 2021 Author Share January 7, 2021 4 minutes ago, Contipro said: the price range is also a big gap.... honestly i dont know the logic comparing between this two different class. anyway happy shopping ... Looking at used bro😅 ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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