kobayashiGT Internal Moderator December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 Japan Could Ban Sales Of New Gasoline, Diesel Cars In Mid-2030s: Report source: https://www.motor1.com/news/458668/japan-gasoline-diesel-cars-ban/ The country's industry ministry is expected to formalize the deadline soon. The mechanism to curb the effects of climate change is not showing signs of a halt. And of course, the automotive industry, which admittedly contributes to the current mess, is finding ways to reverse the adversities, mostly by switching to selling electric and hybrid vehicles – or at least they won't have a choice. Japan is the latest country to announce a deadline to ban the selling of new gasoline- and diesel-powered cars. This is according to NHK, the country's public broadcaster, and relayed in a report by Reuters. According to the report, Japan is eyeing the mid-2030s for the deadline and is expecting automakers to comply by not selling new fossil fuel-powered vehicles by the said period. It's important to note that Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga has pledged in October that Japan will have zero emissions by 2050 on a net basis. With this, the Land of the Rising Sun is joining the other countries that have set a deadline. Britain, Norway, and Germany have announced so recently, as well as some parts of the United States and Canada. Automakers have already responded to this cause a long time ago, that's why there are more hybrid and electric vehicles now more than ever. These companies know that this is the future, and switching over to electrified vehicles will make them future-proof, as they say. Japan's new deadline, however, will put pressure on its homegrown automakers like Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and Mitsubishi to hasten the R&D timeline for electrification. We've seen new Japanese models, such as the Nissan Ariya EV crossover, this year, so expect more in the near future. NHK reports that Japan's industry ministry is expected to give a formal target for the sales ban by the end of this year. Quote Nissan, please come out with a new GTR before 2030! If not it will be a e-GTR liao! On a sidenote, those kei-vans like every and N-van might be very interesting to electrify them! ↡ Advertisement 3 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 the move toward EV is inevitable. most major country and almost all major car producing country lay out the plan already , only those 3rd world country country still struggling to make changes 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 37 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said: Japan Could Ban Sales Of New Gasoline, Diesel Cars In Mid-2030s: Report source: https://www.motor1.com/news/458668/japan-gasoline-diesel-cars-ban/ The country's industry ministry is expected to formalize the deadline soon. The mechanism to curb the effects of climate change is not showing signs of a halt. And of course, the automotive industry, which admittedly contributes to the current mess, is finding ways to reverse the adversities, mostly by switching to selling electric and hybrid vehicles – or at least they won't have a choice. Japan is the latest country to announce a deadline to ban the selling of new gasoline- and diesel-powered cars. This is according to NHK, the country's public broadcaster, and relayed in a report by Reuters. According to the report, Japan is eyeing the mid-2030s for the deadline and is expecting automakers to comply by not selling new fossil fuel-powered vehicles by the said period. It's important to note that Prime Minister Yoshihide Suga has pledged in October that Japan will have zero emissions by 2050 on a net basis. With this, the Land of the Rising Sun is joining the other countries that have set a deadline. Britain, Norway, and Germany have announced so recently, as well as some parts of the United States and Canada. Automakers have already responded to this cause a long time ago, that's why there are more hybrid and electric vehicles now more than ever. These companies know that this is the future, and switching over to electrified vehicles will make them future-proof, as they say. Japan's new deadline, however, will put pressure on its homegrown automakers like Toyota, Honda, Nissan, and Mitsubishi to hasten the R&D timeline for electrification. We've seen new Japanese models, such as the Nissan Ariya EV crossover, this year, so expect more in the near future. NHK reports that Japan's industry ministry is expected to give a formal target for the sales ban by the end of this year. But in Singapore we still so AD still bring in petrol verson instead of Hybrid version if there is hybrid version available. Why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 That means we are left with ASEAN ICE car. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DylanChen 2nd Gear December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, Beregond said: the move toward EV is inevitable. most major country and almost all major car producing country lay out the plan already , only those 3rd world country country still struggling to make changes we r 3rd world. $5000 road tax for telsa. wat a joke 1 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Si4dr 6th Gear December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 Problem is not all country are ready for e-car. Hope our gov. don't follow suit(soon) Imagine we drove e-car to KL/Genting and have to call tow truck to transport back the car? Or caught in massive jam in causeway/2nd link to/after visit JB? Hybrid for me now... 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 47 minutes ago, DylanChen said: we r 3rd world. $5000 road tax for telsa. wat a joke Tesla and all the luxo-EVs are not saints compared to ICE cars. Due to their size and weight, they guzzle up lots of energy to move 1km And they have a huge battery full of precious metals/chemicals which took a lot of energy to manufacture and probably very difficult to recycle. I fully support high taxation on these vehicles also. Most env friendly is bicycle and "B.M.W" 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Si4dr said: Problem is not all country are ready for e-car. Hope our gov. don't follow suit(soon) Imagine we drove e-car to KL/Genting and have to call tow truck to transport back the car? Or caught in massive jam in causeway/2nd link to/after visit JB? Hybrid for me now... LTA started EV charging station tender. Why do our development needs to be bundle with our neighbour? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 57 minutes ago, DylanChen said: we r 3rd world. $5000 road tax for telsa. wat a joke In Malaysia, Nissan Leaf cost RM180k or SG60k. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 11 minutes ago, t0y0ta said: Tesla and all the luxo-EVs are not saints compared to ICE cars. Due to their size and weight, they guzzle up lots of energy to move 1km And they have a huge battery full of precious metals/chemicals which took a lot of energy to manufacture and probably very difficult to recycle. I fully support high taxation on these vehicles also. Most env friendly is bicycle and "B.M.W" Even road tax for Nissan Leaf is a joke. It is $1,542/annum. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 (edited) How long can an EV sit in a traffic jam on a hot day like ours with A/C running? Don't mention Bangkok or KL, just at our own Sgp/JB causeway. Or if some ppl cause a major accident at 1 or 2 expressway at peak hour? Drivers all head to the nearest charging point. Then form a massive queue going to charge their EVs. Now EV makers just brag how fast their EVs are, what's their range but nobody mentions for how long can their EV sit in traffic. Edited December 7, 2020 by Watwheels 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Watwheels said: How long can an EV sit in a traffic jam on a hot day like ours with A/C running? Don't mention Bangkok or KL, just at our own Sgp/JB causeway. Or if some ppl cause a major accident at 1 or 2 expressway at peak hour? Drivers all head to the nearest charging point. Then form a massive queue going to charge their EVs. Quote I've run the AC for 2-3 hours myself sitting at a park working on my computer. If you put the car in ECO mode while you're parked, that limits the AC to 1500 watts max IIRC. Five hours running a 1500 watt load would be 7.5 kWh, or ~31% of your battery. Not forgetting that EV has Regen brake that helps in START STOP traffic. Edited December 7, 2020 by inlinesix Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phluvcat 6th Gear December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 55 minutes ago, t0y0ta said: Tesla and all the luxo-EVs are not saints compared to ICE cars. Due to their size and weight, they guzzle up lots of energy to move 1km And they have a huge battery full of precious metals/chemicals which took a lot of energy to manufacture and probably very difficult to recycle. I fully support high taxation on these vehicles also. Most env friendly is bicycle and "B.M.W" I am not sure which is more sustainable in the long run, or the newer concept engine will give rise even more crtical issues. So after crude oil, we are plundering precious metals. What's the total carbon footprint for the new cars. Will we be clearing more forests to make way for power stations? Is petrol or electricity or energy dense or efficient apart from being " selfishly cleaner"? I tot the current turbo hybrid is good and that we should build up on that and weigh the balance. I always feel the best is to achieve efficiency rather than energy dissipated into the useless and harmful kinds. Maybe those up there know a lot more than us. I would like to believe the governments already have the solutions and pipelines to address the disadvantages of the new engine concept? Which is a lesser evil? 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 2 hours ago, Phluvcat said: I am not sure which is more sustainable in the long run, or the newer concept engine will give rise even more crtical issues. So after crude oil, we are plundering precious metals. What's the total carbon footprint for the new cars. Will we be clearing more forests to make way for power stations? Is petrol or electricity or energy dense or efficient apart from being " selfishly cleaner"? I tot the current turbo hybrid is good and that we should build up on that and weigh the balance. I always feel the best is to achieve efficiency rather than energy dissipated into the useless and harmful kinds. Maybe those up there know a lot more than us. I would like to believe the governments already have the solutions and pipelines to address the disadvantages of the new engine concept? Which is a lesser evil? Profit-driven companies pushing idea that battery cars are less harmful than petrol diesel 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beregond Supersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 7 minutes ago, Mustank said: Profit-driven companies pushing idea that battery cars are less harmful than petrol diesel Both eat resources. But if go into details. Combustion engine still harm the environment more. The smoke go straight into the air.Esp big diesel . I believe most country will be switching even before the earth crude oil run out. Those car making company make Combustion car or make ev still ripping profits ma. In fact i think Combustion engine more money to make Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 43 minutes ago, Mustank said: Profit-driven companies pushing idea that battery cars are less harmful than petrol diesel Well, that's absolutely wrong. Rather, it is the legislator that push business towards that direction. Now, we have EURO6 which almost kill big CC diesel as well as the introduction of Petrol Particulate filter. As the years go by, the future of 6L V12 is doomed. In addition, large auto companies have a CO2 target to hit. Not hitting that target is both compliance and PR nightmare. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 (edited) 3 hours ago, inlinesix said: Not forgetting that EV has Regen brake that helps in START STOP traffic. The cluster f traffic jams we see at causeway. Regen braking won't come into play. Distance too short. Lol. The ten twenty km slowdowns you see on interstates etc. Maybe. Edited December 7, 2020 by Lala81 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phluvcat 6th Gear December 7, 2020 Share December 7, 2020 1 hour ago, inlinesix said: Well, that's absolutely wrong. Rather, it is the legislator that push business towards that direction. Now, we have EURO6 which almost kill big CC diesel as well as the introduction of Petrol Particulate filter. As the years go by, the future of 6L V12 is doomed. In addition, large auto companies have a CO2 target to hit. Not hitting that target is both compliance and PR nightmare. Current F1 1.6L V6 hybrid engine pushing 50 efficiency and achieving around 1000bhp. 100L fuel tank pushing about 350km distance. With advancement in technology of harvesting energies and aerodynamic, screaming V10s and V12s will be bygone days, except for supercars? ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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