Carbon82 Moderator October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 I have a hard time deciding the title for this thread, as there are many things to write about this new Mercedes-Benz model, and I actually wish it could be made available in Singapore, but I know it is mission impossible for now, since it is only available in LHD format (so PI route is out too). Now let take a quick glimpse at this model I am talking about. Does it not reassembled the larger Mercedes-Maybach S-Class (X222), especially the quart window at the C-pillar? So what is this unique model that got me so excited? Well it is the... ... Mercedes-Benz E-Class Long Wheel Base (V213), exclusive to the China market. Anyone grab the variant shown in the above photos? It is the E350L. Now that is another talking point... Under the hood, there’s an assortment of engines, and thus the choice of model variant, which shall be very different from our past understanding of Mercedes nomenclature. Starting with the entry level E280L (notice I use 'entry level'), it use the same 1.5-liter four-cylinder engine with mild hybrid found in the CLS260, which produces 184ps (135KW) and 280Nm of torque. It enables the E280L to accelerate from 0 - 100km/h in 8.7 seconds (9.0 seconds for all-wheel drive). Up next, the E300L, which has a 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine pumping out 258ps (190KW) and 370Nm of torque. This variant come standard with all-wheel drive setup, and the dash to 100km/h is reduce significantly 6.6 seconds. Finally, the top of the range E350L 4MATIC (sound / look sibeh atas right), uses an upgraded 2.0-liter four-cylinder engine (instead of a 3.0L V6) which now produces 299ps (220KW) and 400Nm of torque. It allow a century sprint timing of 6.1 seconds. ↡ Advertisement 19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 (edited) this V model not only will not be found in SGP, it will not be found elsewhere. It was started since the V212(W212 LWB model), it is exclusive to the China market and is locally assembled. China is the largest market of Daimler for Mercedes cars. They have two assembly plants in China. The growth rate over the past many years have been double digit. Just in 2019 alone, Mercedes put close to 600,000 units of new merc on the road in China this is equivalent to the total amount of passenger cars we have in the whole Singapore. Surely, Mercedes will do all they could to keep the China customers happy. Edited October 2, 2020 by Ct3833 6 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 5 minutes ago, Ct3833 said: this V model not only will not be found in SGP, it will not be found elsewhere. It was started since the V212(W212 LWB model), it is exclusive to the China market and is locally assembled. China is the largest market of Daimler for Mercedes cars. They have two assembly plants in China. The growth rate over the past many years have been double digit. Just in 2019 alone, Mercedes put close to 600,000 units of new merc on the road in China this is equivalent to the total amount of passenger cars we have in the whole Singapore. Surely, Mercedes will do all they could to keep the China customers happy. 900k is all motor vehicle in Sg. Incl trunk, van & motor 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 China love LWB Cars,even Audi A6 & BMW 5 Series also have LWB. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator October 2, 2020 Author Share October 2, 2020 25 minutes ago, ER-3682 said: China love LWB Cars, even Audi A6 & BMW 5 Series also have LWB. Not only China, India and some part of eastern Europe too. That is one of the reason why Skoda is doing relatively well in these regions. BTW, among all the LWB model available in China, this V213 looks the best so far. 48 minutes ago, Ct3833 said: this V model not only will not be found in SGP, it will not be found elsewhere. It was started since the V212(W212 LWB model), it is exclusive to the China market and is locally assembled. China is the largest market of Daimler for Mercedes cars. They have two assembly plants in China. The growth rate over the past many years have been double digit. Just in 2019 alone, Mercedes put close to 600,000 units of new merc on the road in China this is equivalent to the total amount of passenger cars we have in the whole Singapore. Surely, Mercedes will do all they could to keep the China customers happy. I know that V212 & V213 were developed, made in and exclusively for China market, but with the latest development over at its rival, there are a slim chance Mercedes might follow suit if BMW see some gain in global sales eventually. Long-wheelbase BMW 3 Series to be offered outside China for first time BMW will replace the 3 Series GT with a long-wheelbase (LWB) version of the 3 Series sedan in India, according to Autocar India. While the longer BMW has been available to Chinese buyers for a number of years, it's the first time a right-hand-drive version of the 3 Series has been produced. It's fitting that the car is being offered in India for the first time outside of China – India has a strong history with long-wheelbase European sedans. Flagship limousines from BMW, Mercedes-Benz, and Audi are only offered in LWB versions. Will Australia get the LWB 3 Series? Considering that there are so few right-hand-drive markets in the world, there's a possibility the LWB 3 Series could end up coming to our shores. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 Hokay...start save $2 per day tomorrow... Err...hokay start today instead. When "the time" has cum...break the piggy bank to buy the paper version and those huge paper notes...HUAT AH!!! Must meet Radx over there in style mah 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGCM928 3rd Gear October 2, 2020 Share October 2, 2020 With economic depression and slowing car sales in US and Europe, the world is now revolving around China and India. But I wonder would this E Class L cannibalise the sales of S Class, if their pricing are distinctively apart? Or if the price of E Class L is very close to S class, why would buyer go for E Class L? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BanCoe Hypersonic October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 On 10/2/2020 at 10:05 PM, mersaylee said: Hokay...start save $2 per day tomorrow... Err...hokay start today instead. When "the time" has cum...break the piggy bank to buy the paper version and those huge paper notes...HUAT AH!!! Must meet Radx over there in style mah So he goes 1st izzit to jaga the sentry Gates 🤣🤣 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mersaylee Hypersonic October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 13 minutes ago, BanCoe said: So he goes 1st izzit to jaga the sentry Gates 🤣🤣 He has visa to transcend both worlds to perform admin work lah...if your name appears in his 666 notebook means it’s time liao😅 simi sentry duty? so low ses... 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lala81 Hypersonic October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 The hyundai tucson will also have LWB. Not sure if it will make it to SG. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 I like LWB cars and they should sell it not to china only but the rest of the world. I don’t get those Tall angmoh can survive in tight rear legroom 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ody_2004 Turbocharged October 5, 2020 Share October 5, 2020 5 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said: I like LWB cars and they should sell it not to china only but the rest of the world. I don’t get those Tall angmoh can survive in tight rear legroom Guess only tiny car population/sales will not see it happening.. these LWB build in China for their local mkt. If imagine a Made in China LWB car sell in Sg.. how big the mkt? Volvo S90 made in china right? What is the sales volume like? 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Watwheels Supersonic October 6, 2020 Share October 6, 2020 Singapore is an excellent place to have LWB cars. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Univ3r5e 1st Gear October 6, 2020 Share October 6, 2020 1 hour ago, Watwheels said: Singapore is an excellent place to have LWB cars. Haha to be fair, those constraints also apply to sports cars, but the demand is still there in SG (they probably have >1 car). For us poor buggers though, I agree - anything longer than a 5 series/E class makes it too inconvenient to drive around. Drove my friend's dad's S Class before to help out with his wedding, and each turn in the HDB carpark gave me a mini heart attack. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic October 6, 2020 Share October 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, Univ3r5e said: Haha to be fair, those constraints also apply to sports cars, but the demand is still there in SG (they probably have >1 car). For us poor buggers though, I agree - anything longer than a 5 series/E class makes it too inconvenient to drive around. Drove my friend's dad's S Class before to help out with his wedding, and each turn in the HDB carpark gave me a mini heart attack. My previous 5 series has front sensor that i could manual switch on/off in a tight car park. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic October 6, 2020 Share October 6, 2020 2 hours ago, Watwheels said: Singapore is an excellent place to have LWB cars. My current car superb is a lwb version of passat no issue. As long as below 5m length bo daiji. Only s class 7er have more difficulties 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator October 6, 2020 Author Share October 6, 2020 9 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said: I like LWB cars and they should sell it not to china only but the rest of the world. I don’t get those Tall angmoh can survive in tight rear legroom I am also a sucker for LWB model, especially after owning the 2nd gen Superb. A quick comparison of the normal E-Class vs the China only E-Class L and you shall see the differences in rear leg room (minus the extended center console). 11 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic October 29, 2020 Share October 29, 2020 (edited) On 10/6/2020 at 11:05 AM, Thaiyotakamli said: My current car superb is a lwb version of passat no issue. As long as below 5m length bo daiji. Only s class 7er have more difficulties Superb LWB is about 4.8+m, it is in fact shorter that the normal e class which is about 4.9+m, that explains why you have no problem. The 7 and S LWB are close to 5.3m with a few mm wider, making them difficult in maneuvering car parks and fitting into parking lots. The LWB is near impossible to be parked into parallel parking lots because of their lengths. My friend swap his 7 LWB to a 5 because his daughter scratched the left side badly against pillar when making turn in a car park😆😆 Edited October 29, 2020 by Ct3833 ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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