Hyde333 3rd Gear October 10, 2020 Share October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Fcw75 said: Survey done. 🙄 Majority of Singaporeans polled agree it is important for Singapore to remain open to foreigners: REACH https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/reach-singaporeans-foreigners-poll-13247746?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR1GmCtZNlIEpAe7zRsU0lGe01atSxpaEkcYiWJhAxjHeFWSpd8zk8KI8ls 😕 Did they surveyed only the new citizens? ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thaiyotakamli Supersonic October 10, 2020 Share October 10, 2020 4 minutes ago, Hyde333 said: 😕 Did they surveyed only the new citizens? They survey the employers lor lol 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic October 10, 2020 Share October 10, 2020 2 hours ago, Fcw75 said: Survey done. 🙄 Majority of Singaporeans polled agree it is important for Singapore to remain open to foreigners: REACH https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/reach-singaporeans-foreigners-poll-13247746?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR1GmCtZNlIEpAe7zRsU0lGe01atSxpaEkcYiWJhAxjHeFWSpd8zk8KI8ls Then wait for what, bring more foreigners in lor especially ceca 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic October 10, 2020 Share October 10, 2020 5 minutes ago, Mustank said: Then wait for what, bring more foreigners in lor especially ceca Open the gates! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic October 10, 2020 Share October 10, 2020 26 minutes ago, Fcw75 said: Open the gates! yed sir! 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic October 10, 2020 Share October 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Hyde333 said: 😕 Did they surveyed only the new citizens? Should surveyed PHV drivers and food delivery people. REACH chairman is Tan Kiat How, a PAP MP. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator October 10, 2020 Share October 10, 2020 17 hours ago, Fcw75 said: Survey done. 🙄 Majority of Singaporeans polled agree it is important for Singapore to remain open to foreigners: REACH https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/reach-singaporeans-foreigners-poll-13247746?cid=FBcna&fbclid=IwAR1GmCtZNlIEpAe7zRsU0lGe01atSxpaEkcYiWJhAxjHeFWSpd8zk8KI8ls I would say it depend on how the research body phrased the questions. I for one agree that we need to remain open to foreigners, BUT only in sector that CANNOT be filled by the local, similar situation we had >20 years ago. Unfortunately that is not what we are seeing now and thus the anti-foreigner sentiment (directed towards those who take up PMET positions, NOT migrant workers for sure). End of the day, statistics and findings can be easily manipulated to fit the agenda... 16 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 11, 2020 Share October 11, 2020 Very clearly the questions are phrased to get a positive answer or at least neutral one. This are very basic tricks for survey. Please don't make us feel so novice lah 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yewheng Twincharged October 11, 2020 Share October 11, 2020 On 9/28/2020 at 12:14 PM, 13177 said: Those who come here to work, even obtain SPR or even citizens, i think most of them would not sink permanent roots here la, esp if they still have family back in their home country. Unless their whole family and clan all moved to sg, then maybe they would sink their roots here. I know people who have got their citizens here, but still thinking to go back home country to retire when they are old. That is because the cost of living here is super expensive. So it is very normal to think of going back to home country to retire when they are old. Just like some of us here might have the thought of migrate to Thailand, Malaysia when they are old to retire due to high cost of living here in Singapore. 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged October 11, 2020 Share October 11, 2020 12 hours ago, Carbon82 said: I would say it depend on how the research body phrased the questions. I for one agree that we need to remain open to foreigners, BUT only in sector that CANNOT be filled by the local, similar situation we had >20 years ago. Unfortunately that is not what we are seeing now and thus the anti-foreigner sentiment (directed towards those who take up PMET positions, NOT migrant workers for sure). End of the day, statistics and findings can be easily manipulated to fit the agenda... I would say sort out the numbers of top heavy non singaporean in the leadership role for financial institutions first before allowing business as usual. also maintain those companies that blatantly discriminate hiring singaporean till the figures are aligned just to showcase the tolerance level of our regardless of race language or religion pledge. Else the internal landscape of our values and fabric is at risk of being redicure n eroded. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged October 11, 2020 Share October 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Yewheng said: That is because the cost of living here is super expensive. So it is very normal to think of going back to home country to retire when they are old. Just like some of us here might have the thought of migrate to Thailand, Malaysia when they are old to retire due to high cost of living here in Singapore. Those that have thought of that would have long gone apply a PR when it was easier n just buying time to watch if situation changes. If it revert back to a promise land of milk n honey for home born singaporean, the PR is nothing but a ace card kept for emergency. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 11, 2020 Share October 11, 2020 When you prefer PR to citizen, it is to allow flexibility to 'sit in wherever is cooler' someday lah. Haha 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged October 11, 2020 Share October 11, 2020 12 hours ago, Carbon82 said: I would say it depend on how the research body phrased the questions. I for one agree that we need to remain open to foreigners, BUT only in sector that CANNOT be filled by the local, similar situation we had >20 years ago. Unfortunately that is not what we are seeing now and thus the anti-foreigner sentiment (directed towards those who take up PMET positions, NOT migrant workers for sure). End of the day, statistics and findings can be easily manipulated to fit the agenda... I believe the sectors that we are unable to filled is still true. In areas where AI and Data analytics or bots and security is still rather limited. and hence only those that are offered a opportunity to switch to a total new area of growth and the hiring company willing to risk hiring a newbie who has 50% of the the understanding of the knowledge and willing to put in effort to filled the gap with hitting the ground running with the rest of the teammate helping him be successful, will this gap be fixed Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged October 11, 2020 Share October 11, 2020 5 hours ago, Sdf4786k said: I believe the sectors that we are unable to filled is still true. In areas where AI and Data analytics or bots and security is still rather limited. and hence only those that are offered a opportunity to switch to a total new area of growth and the hiring company willing to risk hiring a newbie who has 50% of the the understanding of the knowledge and willing to put in effort to filled the gap with hitting the ground running with the rest of the teammate helping him be successful, will this gap be fixed Not sure if you are involved in related industry. I am not but from feedback given by people from the industry, we have imported many 'talent' that are not able to contribute. There are mass but no quality. Maybe those directly dealing with them can share. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged October 11, 2020 Share October 11, 2020 40 minutes ago, Victor68 said: Not sure if you are involved in related industry. I am not but from feedback given by people from the industry, we have imported many 'talent' that are not able to contribute. There are mass but no quality. Maybe those directly dealing with them can share. What’s a business if there’s no profit.And many a times, those FT that are move into the role are subsequently promoted. Not because they are good . But because the role is a director role. But if you advert for internal transfer as a director role there will be too many problems of selecting those that are equally good n not enough people to take over those roles that have become vacant for the new director role. so it’s never a case of if you are good, be patient enough and you be promoted. It’s more of knowing who you can count on and who you can leverage to help you be successful. not sure if you encounter folks that are so hood, they become a threat if they are promoted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic January 15, 2021 Share January 15, 2021 Another AMDK company infested by CECA? Hire on color and not on merits? This has got to stop, being discriminated against in our own country. Can MOM check if the hiring and HR managers are Indians hiring their own and if the job really requires Hindi language proficiency? https://mothership.sg/2021/01/tesla-ad-singapore-fluent-in-hindi/ 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ender Hypersonic January 15, 2021 Share January 15, 2021 1 hour ago, Voodooman said: Another AMDK company infested by CECA? Hire on color and not on merits? This has got to stop, being discriminated against in our own country. Can MOM check if the hiring and HR managers are Indians hiring their own and if the job really requires Hindi language proficiency? https://mothership.sg/2021/01/tesla-ad-singapore-fluent-in-hindi/ If fluency in Hindi is a must, then now I understand why those companies said Singapore do not have enough talent. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fcw75 Hypersonic January 16, 2021 Share January 16, 2021 It’s actually quite sad if you are a local job seeker. ↡ Advertisement 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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