Toyota Corolla Cross

[iamahbee]

  On 12/29/2022 at 8:17 AM, Mkl22 said:

is the corolla cross hybrid more peppy and smoother than the i30 with the DCT?

 

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Smoother for sure. Power delivery is linear although for me it takes some getting used to having no physical gears shifting, since in the last decade I have grown accustomed to DCTs in my current and previous cars. 

In mid-range, the i30 feels livelier when the turbo is on song and all 242Nm of torque are in play, but the Corolla Cross Hybrid is definitely no slouch.

It's really hard to compare them like for like (turbo vs. hybrid, CVT vs. DCT) but what really matters IMHO, is that both are good for Singapore traffic where we need that torque at lower RPMs to slot into gaps in traffic when we change lanes. 

[josh98]

@wongpumpkins @Theoldjaffa special early launch maybe haha like Ioniq 5 for the exclusive top buyers of Toyota

[josh98]

@iamahbee didn't know there's a difference in the looks until you mentioned it, and the badge also different. BM's one is essentially a mini RAV4 then

[Carbon82]

@Theoldjaffa that one should be PI unit, which look like this.

@iamahbee has pointed out correctly that PI and BM unit look quite different. 

[Shouyi]

A detailed review of the Corolla Cross 2.0L hybrid

 

[13177]

  On 12/29/2022 at 9:03 AM, Carbon82 said:

@Theoldjaffa that one should be PI unit, which look like this.

@iamahbee has pointed out correctly that PI and BM unit look quite different. 

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PI unit not nice looking le. 😅

[inlinesix]

  On 12/29/2022 at 9:23 AM, 13177 said:

PI unit not nice looking le. 😅

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Badge on the grill is the giveaway

[iamahbee]

  On 12/29/2022 at 8:51 AM, josh98 said:

@iamahbee didn't know there's a difference in the looks until you mentioned it, and the badge also different. BM's one is essentially a mini RAV4 then

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The drivetrain is also different. BM import is 2.0L M20A-FXS Dynamic Force engine with a new lithium-ion battery for the hybrid system, while PI are the older 1.8L 2ZR engine with nickel-metal hydride battery.

This is BM's test drive unit.

[josh98]

@iamahbee I see, I knew about the different engine size but not the tech behind as well

Edited December 29, 2022 by josh98

[Theoldjaffa]

  On 12/29/2022 at 9:03 AM, Carbon82 said:

@Theoldjaffa that one should be PI unit, which look like this.

@iamahbee has pointed out correctly that PI and BM unit look quite different. 

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Thx for the info bro. The one I spotted is the BM unit.

 

[Shouyi]

@iamahbee side track abit. I wonder why the Lexus ES and IS hybrid do not use the 2.0L M20A-FXS Dynamic Force engine.

[iamahbee]

  On 12/29/2022 at 11:36 AM, Shouyi said:

@iamahbee side track abit. I wonder why the Lexus ES and IS hybrid do not use the 2.0L M20A-FXS Dynamic Force engine.

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The XZ10 ES300H uses A25A-FXS Dynamic Force which is basically the same family as M20A. The latest IS300H is essentially a facelift of the XE30 model launched in 2013 hence it retains the 2AR engine. Only the UX250H utilises M20A-FXS. 

ES and UX are on TNGA platform. The IS is still underpinned by the New N platform. 

[13177]

  On 12/29/2022 at 9:55 AM, iamahbee said:

The drivetrain is also different. BM import is 2.0L M20A-FXS Dynamic Force engine with a new lithium-ion battery for the hybrid system, while PI are the older 1.8L 2ZR engine with nickel-metal hydride battery.

This is BM's test drive unit.

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Looks like this car looks nicer under the shade. Lol. The unit inside the showroom looks good, maybe due to the car colour and the lighting in the showroom. So what colour is the unit inside the showroom?

[13177]

  On 12/29/2022 at 10:53 AM, Theoldjaffa said:

Thx for the info bro. The one I spotted is the BM unit.

 

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Based on the registration model name, it is BM unit. But how come the car already on the road le since still havent launch?

[Streamium70]

@wongpumpkins can always change the plate 'border' to the one BM provides....

[Streamium70]

@13177 BM started offering Corolla Cross about 1month back (soft launch).  The car could be one of the 1st batch on the road..my guess only

[Streamium70]

@Streamium70 just confirmed with BM's SE....1st few BM registered CC (Corolla Cross) 

[Fitvip]

I have seen the BM version several times. Quite close to RAV4.