Lethalstrike Turbocharged December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 4 hours ago, Ginyu said: The strange thing is that when the previous 3 cycl gen X1 priced less than 200k with higher specs, many complain is under powered but now when the new 3 cycl gen X1 priced more than 200k with lower specs, suddenly all come out to say the power is adequate 😂 The previous X1 sDrive18i was also a Cat B car, while this sDrive16i is a Cat A car. The price has to go up for this latest X1 as std equipment has improved (ADAS etc), and its also more well rounded package overall. Although you can argue its basically the old engine in a all-new bodyshell. People see the car, test drove and feel good, also come out say the power is adequate. I mean 0-100km/h in 10 secs is slow, but how many here really need to lut the car hard in day to day driving? 😆 ↡ Advertisement 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 (edited) 10 sec century sprint is quite honestly, sufficient in SG context. Korean and Jap B&B models are doing around that range as well and nobody complains they're underpowered. But for a keen driver, being able to easily and swiftly overtake, especially at highway speeds, is an important luxury. Edited December 27, 2022 by Rickster 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 My oversized and puny engine does 0 to 100 in sub 9sec. Yet when I use only 30% of full throttle, 95% of the time all cars are few hundred meters behind me after a while. I am not fast or rather many are tardy. 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Rickster said: 10 sec century sprint is quite honestly, sufficient in SG context. Korean and Jap B&B models are doing around that range as well and nobody complains they're underpowered. But for a keen driver, being able to easily and swiftly overtake, especially at highway speeds, is an important luxury. Yes, if they say they are someone who frequents up north, then I would say the 1.5 inline 3 will be anaemic along the NSH. Go above 150km/h and it will really start to show its flaws. In Singapore, its perfectly well suited. 4 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 Now 0-100Km/h in 10 Secs People said Slow,my 1981 W126,380 SEL V8 also this Timing,at that time consider very brisk.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dannnn 4th Gear December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 the higher HP/engine you got, the more angrier / road rage u will be when driving in SG. KPE PIE TPE all the hoggers 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Lethalstrike said: People see the car, test drove and feel good, also come out say the power is adequate. I mean 0-100km/h in 10 secs is slow, but how many here really need to lut the car hard in day to day driving? 😆 Rather than 0-100km/h, agility to overtake is more important. Especially we have a lot of CB drivers that close up once signal. Of course, driving sedately following the flow, any car is enough. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lethalstrike Turbocharged December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 41 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Rather than 0-100km/h, agility to overtake is more important. Especially we have a lot of CB drivers that close up once signal. Of course, driving sedately following the flow, any car is enough. Its the low end torque which you are talking about, for such scenarios. The ability to pull and pick up speed in any gear in a hurry. For such scenario actually EV is the best, instantaneous torque delivery without waiting for simi DCT/8-speed/9-speed gearbox to drop gear or simi turbocharger to spool and respond 😆 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 11 minutes ago, Lethalstrike said: For such scenario actually EV is the best, instantaneous torque delivery without waiting for simi DCT/8-speed/9-speed gearbox to drop gear or simi turbocharger to spool and respond 😆 that’s why can see so many BlurSG accident … step and car cheong … cannot react 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ER-3682 Twincharged December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 @Wt_know Then CRASH...😆 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginyu 5th Gear December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, inlinesix said: Rather than 0-100km/h, agility to overtake is more important. Especially we have a lot of CB drivers that close up once signal. Of course, driving sedately following the flow, any car is enough. Always encounter it so think behavior may be taught in school, when see someone signal, accelerate, don’t let him get in 😂 Edited December 27, 2022 by Ginyu 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rskc 5th Gear December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 5 hours ago, Lethalstrike said: Its the low end torque which you are talking about, for such scenarios. The ability to pull and pick up speed in any gear in a hurry. What would be the best low torque ICE car if one is take EV out of the equation? Say with ard 250k budget in today's market... 🙄🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamburger Hypersonic December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 Speaking from a Conti pov with a puny TC engine, cruising even at near 200 is relaxed. The issue is from accelerating from 100 to 160 onwards, the engine takes a while to catch up and would be out of breath after 4.5k rpm. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Rskc said: What would be the best low torque ICE car if one is take EV out of the equation? Say with ard 250k budget in today's market... 🙄🤔 Audi Q3 2.0, 320 NM @ 1500rpm Audi A3 1.5, 250 NM @ 1500 rpm Volvo xc40, 300 NM @ 1380 rpm Not sure what you mean by best. But the above are just a few that came to my mind for cars in the 250k range with high torque at low rpm. 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickster 5th Gear December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Hamburger said: Speaking from a Conti pov with a puny TC engine, cruising even at near 200 is relaxed. The issue is from accelerating from 100 to 160 onwards, the engine takes a while to catch up and would be out of breath after 4.5k rpm. For accelerating 100-160, that is when cars with higher bhp shines. It can easily beat out cars with higher higher max torque, but much lower bhp. Edited December 27, 2022 by Rickster Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rskc 5th Gear December 27, 2022 Share December 27, 2022 9 hours ago, Rskc said: What would be the best low torque ICE car if one is take EV out of the equation? Say with ard 250k budget in today's market... 🙄🤔 *correction - low end torque ICE... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rskc 5th Gear December 28, 2022 Share December 28, 2022 6 hours ago, Rickster said: Audi Q3 2.0, 320 NM @ 1500rpm Audi A3 1.5, 250 NM @ 1500 rpm Volvo xc40, 300 NM @ 1380 rpm Not sure what you mean by best. But the above are just a few that came to my mind for cars in the 250k range with high torque at low rpm. Q3 looks yummy👍👍 A3 too cramp (for me). Volvo no resale value (joke - some people say it means "no wife", maybe that is why less audience for resale) 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shrjun 5th Gear December 28, 2022 Share December 28, 2022 43 minutes ago, Rskc said: Q3 looks yummy👍👍 A3 too cramp (for me). Volvo no resale value (joke - some people say it means "no wife", maybe that is why less audience for resale) I would have thought ' lady parts ' ! ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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