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2021 Lexus IS Teased


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5 hours ago, Koizee said:

Any idea how much is the listed price for IS350? 

Is it around 240k range? 

Early bird was 230k. But wait a few months, price may drop some more. However I heard that the IS350 F-Sport is a limited run thing. Most will be IS300 and IS300h. 

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On 12/3/2020 at 6:21 AM, Natnut said:

The IS350 vs M340i comparison doesn't really work though since it's not just a small quantum like the road tax or petrol costs difference but a price differential of 90K. 

For 90K upfront price more, the M340i had better be significantly faster.

 

 

Not sure about price, but M340i should be measurably faster than say ISF or GSF. There’s probably little difference in costs, and as you pointed out road tax is lower in the 340i and real world fuel use could be similar.

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On 12/3/2020 at 8:57 AM, inlinesix said:

V6 NA vs IL6 Turbo.  How to compare?

 

Not difficult in my opinion. One is much easier to drive even in stop start traffic due to abundance of Low end torque. Give it a try!

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Test drove the new IS300 last week, not too impressed. 

The good:

Exterior looks good

Back seats leg room not too bad.

 

Not so good:

Surprisingly cabin noise quite high (from the tyres) at 70km/h and above. 

Turbo lag quite significant.

Infotainment quite outdated, not much change from old model.

Overall, not my cup of tea.

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10 minutes ago, Kooman01 said:

Test drove the new IS300 last week, not too impressed. 

The good:

Exterior looks good

Back seats leg room not too bad.

Not so good:

Surprisingly cabin noise quite high (from the tyres) at 70km/h and above. 

Turbo lag quite significant.

Infotainment quite outdated, not much change from old model.

Overall, not my cup of tea.

Turbo lag while car moving off?

If yes, it is likely due to the switch from vvt-iw to vvt-i.

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3 hours ago, Hybrids said:

Not sure about price, but M340i should be measurably faster than say ISF or GSF. There’s probably little difference in costs, and as you pointed out road tax is lower in the 340i and real world fuel use could be similar.

Hmm, seems wrong again? Both GSF and M340i tested on the unrestricted German Autobahn. Lexus GSF 477 hp, 0-250 km/h  23.35 secs, BMW M340i xDrive 374 hp 0-250 km/h 29.68 secs

 

 

 

For perspective, the 2007-2011 GS450h 345hp does  0-250 km/h in 27 secs. The M340i for being the latest BMW with brand new chassis and powerplant still lags behind a 10 year old Lexus hybrid in performance.

 

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15 hours ago, Natnut said:

Hmm, seems wrong again? Both GSF and M340i tested on the unrestricted German Autobahn. Lexus GSF 477 hp, 0-250 km/h  23.35 secs, BMW M340i xDrive 374 hp 0-250 km/h 29.68 secs

 

 

 

For perspective, the 2007-2011 GS450h 345hp does  0-250 km/h in 27 secs. The M340i for being the latest BMW with brand new chassis and powerplant still lags behind a 10 year old Lexus hybrid in performance.

 

You piqued my interest but a few quick scans on YouTube suggests this is not conclusive. But as I won’t be able to fully verify  any such tests I won’t list any of the links. However, as a former Lexus enthusiast I certainly can understand how you feel. Nevertheless, thank you for sharing Lexus news as they come up, good to have fans rooting for Lexus. And I am sure you will enjoy your GS450h. For 3 times I nearly bought one!

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16 hours ago, Kooman01 said:

Test drove the new IS300 last week, not too impressed. 

The good:

Exterior looks good

Back seats leg room not too bad.

 

Not so good:

Surprisingly cabin noise quite high (from the tyres) at 70km/h and above. 

Turbo lag quite significant.

Infotainment quite outdated, not much change from old model.

Overall, not my cup of tea.

As the current owner of 2017 IS driver, thank you for your sharing of experience.

hope to hear more people sharing their experience with the new IS, good or bad

 

 

 

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20 hours ago, Kooman01 said:

Felt the Turbo lag from stand still to move off. Step on the accelerator ... nothing happen ..... then the boost kick in.

The switch from Atkinson to Otto cycle is the likely cause.

8AR uses VVT-iw.

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On 12/9/2020 at 9:21 AM, Mark_goh said:

As the current owner of 2017 IS driver, thank you for your sharing of experience.

hope to hear more people sharing their experience with the new IS, good or bad

 

 

 

 

On 12/9/2020 at 9:06 PM, Kooman01 said:

Felt the Turbo lag from stand still to move off. Step on the accelerator ... nothing happen ..... then the boost kick in.

So sorry to hear this. Was hoping IS300 gave good impressions. I was rather disappointed after driving the new IS300h too. 

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On 1/25/2021 at 4:22 PM, Limalimuthu said:

I don't understand why Lexus did not upgrade to Lithium Ion battery for new IS300h. And why didn't use the 2.0l turbo engine with the hybrid system? Spent all the years just tweaking road holding, steering feel and ride quality. The new IS coulda been a solid contender against the bmw 330e.

Actually road holding could be a function of wider wheels and tires....not an expensive upgrade for Lexus to manage.  I found during my test drive the feel is no better than before, but it is a quicker steering rack with more assistance so it could give some the impression that there is more feel and that was welcome. The ride quality was (for me) ruined by the very high road noise (the UX was quieter in that respect and that’s not saying much). Having driven the BMW G20 3 series on the autobahn I was really impressed with the noise suppression. It had a 2.0 diesel with performance, handling, refinement and a modern interior.

I guess they are trying to move those wishing more performance to Toyota...the RAV4 prime gets good reviews, I noticed.

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