Cj12329 3rd Gear June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 On 6/3/2020 at 6:29 PM, SZ_ford said: wow if singapore allow no carplate in the front....the audi grill looks even better Now the trend in grill design is, the bigger the mouth is, the better. it may end up, whole front is nothing but grill. As we see that many cars are having large grill compared to last time. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee_33 Turbocharged June 10, 2020 Share June 10, 2020 1 hour ago, Cj12329 said: Now the trend in grill design is, the bigger the mouth is, the better. it may end up, whole front is nothing but grill. As we see that many cars are having large grill compared to last time. When last time? Grilles last time also were very big what. 😂 1 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator June 13, 2020 Share June 13, 2020 2 more days to the premiere of the new IS. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
csf 2nd Gear June 15, 2020 Share June 15, 2020 Leaked before official release.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0R-xsvUpwI 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee_33 Turbocharged June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 12 hours ago, csf said: Leaked before official release.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0R-xsvUpwI Retains the same styling language of the current one, but the stance and cohesiveness of the design is far better. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 14 hours ago, Toeknee_33 said: Retains the same styling language of the current one, but the stance and cohesiveness of the design is far better. No doubt with your statement but somehow this look more of a facelift than brand new generation, more evolutionary than revolutionary inside out. Not much has changed for the new IS visually (or underneath, really, as the IS rides on the same platform). The sedan still wears the brand's signature spindle grille – albeit a revised "three-dimensional" version of it – which now comes accented by a larger lower intake and two larger accenting vents on either side. Like its underpinnings, the inside of the 2021 Lexus IS isn't totally new either. But the refreshed cabin does offer a bit more in the way of tech. An 8.0-inch touchscreen comes standard – which is now three inches closer to the driver – while a larger 10.3-inch touchscreen is available as an option. Things like Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, and Amazon Alexa compatibility come standard, but the same maddening touchpad controller from the previous model carries over. The 2021 Lexus IS uses the exact same engines as the previous model. And they each produce the same amount of power, too. The base IS 300 with rear-wheel drive keeps the turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder, good for 241 horsepower and 350Nm. The all-wheel-drive IS 300, meanwhile, gets a more powerful 3.5-liter V6 good 260 hp and 320Nm. And at the top of the range, the IS 350 – available in both RWD and AWD – gets a 3.5-liter V6 good for 311 hp and 380Nm. 8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee_33 Turbocharged June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 13 hours ago, Carbon82 said: No doubt with your statement but somehow this look more of a facelift than brand new generation, more evolutionary than revolutionary inside out. Not much has changed for the new IS visually (or underneath, really, as the IS rides on the same platform). The sedan still wears the brand's signature spindle grille – albeit a revised "three-dimensional" version of it – which now comes accented by a larger lower intake and two larger accenting vents on either side. Like its underpinnings, the inside of the 2021 Lexus IS isn't totally new either. But the refreshed cabin does offer a bit more in the way of tech. An 8.0-inch touchscreen comes standard – which is now three inches closer to the driver – while a larger 10.3-inch touchscreen is available as an option. Things like Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, and Amazon Alexa compatibility come standard, but the same maddening touchpad controller from the previous model carries over. The 2021 Lexus IS uses the exact same engines as the previous model. And they each produce the same amount of power, too. The base IS 300 with rear-wheel drive keeps the turbocharged 2.0-liter four-cylinder, good for 241 horsepower and 350Nm. The all-wheel-drive IS 300, meanwhile, gets a more powerful 3.5-liter V6 good 260 hp and 320Nm. And at the top of the range, the IS 350 – available in both RWD and AWD – gets a 3.5-liter V6 good for 311 hp and 380Nm. Oh its not a new model!! Then very sad...I thought it would be a TNGA platform and all new car, after all the current one is 7 years old...sad sad... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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SZ_ford 5th Gear June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 So this is facelift right? very hard to compete with merc, audi and bmw. front design looks more cohesive but interior is showing its age 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
t0y0ta Supercharged June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 1 hour ago, SZ_ford said: So this is facelift right? very hard to compete with merc, audi and bmw. front design looks more cohesive but interior is showing its age Some of these questionable product development decisions must have been made a few years ago. For a change like this (full exterior panel change), it is actually very expensive as they need to remake all the stamping molds for the new panels. So it is almost unheard of in Toyota history to do this. Usually they will just change the bumpers, lights and at most the bonnet and fender during minor change. And yet do all this expensive re-tooling and retain same interior, same engines (uncompetitive) and same platform. No wonder the head of Lexus was replaced last year, the previous head probably approved this type of stupid product development. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mkl22 Twincharged June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 36 minutes ago, t0y0ta said: Some of these questionable product development decisions must have been made a few years ago. For a change like this (full exterior panel change), it is actually very expensive as they need to remake all the stamping molds for the new panels. So it is almost unheard of in Toyota history to do this. Usually they will just change the bumpers, lights and at most the bonnet and fender during minor change. And yet do all this expensive re-tooling and retain same interior, same engines (uncompetitive) and same platform. No wonder the head of Lexus was replaced last year, the previous head probably approved this type of stupid product development. maybe it is just to keep the model alive with just minimal development. the SUV are the money spinners anyway. so don't plonk too much money on sedan platforms? 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bozo88 Neutral Newbie June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 Goodness, rather appalling half baked effort. Changes to the exterior but exact same interior as the previous model. Might as well kill off the IS rather than push out a half baked 'new model' that will just hasten its demise. The exterior IMO is quite nice and the package would be quite complete if the dashboard and cabin design had been similar to the UX. The camry's interior looks more modern than this IS's interior, LOL. Hope Lexus doesn't go down the same road as Infiniti...... 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybrids 2nd Gear June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 Actually the Koreans are doing more interesting things. When I was considering the BMW grand coupe 4 series I tested the Kia Stinger. My conclusion at the time was the Lexus update couldn’t come soon enough. Well, I didn’t buy either in the end but both were streets ahead, and in the case of the Kia It was generations ahead, and even the warranty was better. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flashbang Turbocharged June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 Rear lightbar reminds me of a kia cerato.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
louisbosco 3rd Gear June 16, 2020 Share June 16, 2020 this needs a 2j swap and a manual gearbox like the old altezzas Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator June 17, 2020 Share June 17, 2020 The rear middle seat seems like a divider between the 2 rear side seats. This means the rear middle passenger is sitting on a narrow raised hump. Doesn't look comfortable to me and coupled with the poor shoulder room of the existing model which looks like being carried over, its seems this IS is a 4 seater rather than a 5 seater. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oppositelock 2nd Gear June 17, 2020 Share June 17, 2020 Got me excited for a little bit but turns out to be the same old car. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toeknee_33 Turbocharged June 17, 2020 Share June 17, 2020 The car's track has been widened by 45 mm at the front and 50mm at the rear, hence the better stance; less of the "underwheeled" look of the current model. They also made a strong claim that the chassis has been improved for greater communication and interaction between driver and road. Have to wait for the first road tests to find out if the claim is real. In the video, there is mention of a new Toyota test track - Shimoyama Circuit - that will be used to hone the handling of future Toyota/Lexus cars. https://www.motor1.com/news/346929/toyota-technical-center-shimayoma-opens/ Here is the video: I think if they invested a little more money to change the dashboard and centre stack, then it could hoodwink some people to believe its a all new model. Oh why? ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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