End the marriage, save the relationship (NOC - Ryan & Sylvia)

[Rickster]

2 hours ago, Throttle2 said:

3. Not having any children within 10 yrs of marriage. If no children, marry for f**k? Literally 😄. Those who think they can hv a dog or cat as a pet “child “ please grow up!  It is children who enrich a marriage.  Having children is the one true life project for partners.  If dont want children, please dont bother getting married and being legally bound. Stupid!  

 

This one really takes the cake! Totally agree with hands and legs... I don't understand why people want to get married when starting a family is not on the cards.

Maybe they want to get HDB? 🤣🤣🤣

[Lala81]

2 hours ago, Throttle2 said:

Its clear who is the more emotionally sensitive one, even XiKway Ong admitted he is. 

Crying is not a sign of weakness, it is a sign of Heart.

and its very normal when 2 lovers part in an amicable way.

i see it with no ill intentions., the video. They need to get it off their chests and its a fair way of doing it, especially since that is their profession.

i would wish this pair goodness and success going forward

Like i said i only watch the Food King (food reviews episodes). Creatively, i think it's really solid. Funny, authentic singaporean responses. 
So just hope they keep it going.

Andrew Lloyd Webber was married to Sarah brightman. They divorced but he still calls her his muse. So sometimes there is a post divorce relationship.

The company is their "baby' hah

[Throttle2]

1 hour ago, Lala81 said:

Like i said i only watch the Food King (food reviews episodes). Creatively, i think it's really solid. Funny, authentic singaporean responses. 
So just hope they keep it going.

Andrew Lloyd Webber was married to Sarah brightman. They divorced but he still calls her his muse. So sometimes there is a post divorce relationship.

The company is their "baby' hah

You are totally right and thats whats also keeping them together. The company...

[Weez911]

A famous person once said "人就像海鲜，好吃永远抵不过新鲜"!!!

[BabyBlade]

https://mothership.sg/2020/06/nocs-ryan-noc-opens-up/

[Throttle2]

It takes a strong mind to deal with "stardom"

from making videos for fun at own leisure to the pressures of meeting deadlines for clients.  
 

fun became pressure and stress

thats reality.  
so need to get a grip and be firm with what you want to do and the trade off

Well at least from nothing they got a $2mil penthouse now 😃

 

[BabyBlade]

It's must be really heartbreaking to end a ten year relationship, especially one that you shared almost half your life with. To be able to come out and do a video about it, I think it's really brave of them, and more so for Ryan. The video itself is a good way to stop people from asking "Where's Ryan?" when he does not appear in her videos. This came up quite a lot when Sylvia checked into NCID recently due to a COVID-19 scare and it wasn't Ryan who brought her there and she didn't talk about Ryan throughout the entire video. I think it was mentioned somewhere in the comment section that he was filming hence he couldn't accompany her but the point is everyone (their fans) asked. 

If you have a long time gf/wife, and you don't bring her to your place for a long while, your parents will surely ask, where's ah girl? Your relatives will ask during CNY, wheres ah girl? Why never follow you come this year? Right? And then you'll have to explain to them. 

Ryan and Sylvia are celebrities in their own ways. They're famous in the YouTube community for their Food King series and other productions by NOC. I'm not a fan of them but I do enjoy some of their travel series. So just imagine how many people will speculate and ask about Where's Ryan Where's Sylvia on every new content that they churn out. I see this as a way of reaching out and reassuring their fans and also to their team, sponsors and clients that NOC will remain as NOC. The heart and soul of NOC remains. Nothing wrong with that. 

What can break a relationship/marriage? Many. Some are slow burn irreconcilable differences. 

- Infidelity aka cheating

- Incompatible issues discovered after living together (both can try to compromise but that's not always the case) 

- Money issues: one save, one spend all. Maybe one no stable job, always quit? The other partner start to feel the heat. Or maybe one is a workaholic. No time at home. 

- Addictions: Gambling, Alcohol

- Lack of communication: dishonesty, one is always trying to hide something, avoidance (not wanting to work out problems together, again, slow burn) 

- Physical/mental abuse:

- Mental illness

- Lack of commitment

- Lack of effort to maintain the marriage causing one side to feel neglected. 

The list goes on. It all depends on what your last straw is. 

Some got married on a whim, some shotgun so no choice. Deciding to spend the rest of your life with that one person shouldn't be an impulsive decision (or maybe it can be and maybe it can last) but marriage is for a lifetime and you need to really factor in his/her flaws and ponder over if these flaws are acceptable to you in the long run, or are you expecting and hoping your partner will change after marriage? This is when unrealistic expectations will break the relationship years down the road. And if you have doubts even before marriage, then think twice before plunging. 

Others get married because early in the relationship already BTO since it takes at least four years, BTO gonna be completed soon (risk losing all the money you've paid thus far if you decide to break up), wedding banquet paid, wedding photoshoots all done, all that pressure to lose it all and having to explain to family and friends to call it off at this point can be a difficult decision to make. Most couples will bite the bullet anyway and hope that things will change after marriage. Which brings us back to above, expecting someone to change causes unrealistic expectations. Half the time people don't change. 

So to summarize my long winded post there's  many reasons for a marriage to end in a divorce. And choosing to divorce doesn't always mean taking the easy way out, nor does it mean you have failed in life. I believe their marriage didn't collapse because the sparks ain't there anymore but rather due to deep rooted problems. 

Hopefully this can be a good closure for them and I wish them well. 

[PSP415]

7 minutes ago, BabyBlade said:

https://mothership.sg/2020/06/nocs-ryan-noc-opens-up/

I hope they will have the proper rest and space needed especially after i read the part of suicide. 

Time to allow them to build very strong self esteem and have the strength to walk away from the negatives, without the need to lose themselves to be what 101 ppl want them to be.

I was puzzled by their very personal sharing and i do NOT know who they are or what is NOC.😖

I confess it was uncomfortable for me to watch the video with a persistent nagging thought in my mind - "why need to explain at all?"

For some its bravery to bare one's soul so openly. I want to think so too. 

No judgement here. I do not have the rights to, anyways. 

Wishing them all the best.

Some have strong friendships leading to marriage. Some have divorces leading to strong friendships. 

Its their personal journey and they alone can decide when the marriage vows are love bands and not chains of obligations. 

Just my tots 

Cheers

[Lala81]

4 minutes ago, Throttle2 said:

It takes a strong mind to deal with "stardom"

from making videos for fun at own leisure to the pressures of meeting deadlines for clients.  
 

fun became pressure and stress

thats reality.  
so need to get a grip and be firm with what you want to do and the trade off

Well at least from nothing they got a $2mil penthouse now 😃

 

Online space definitely not for everyone. 

While a previous generation media celebrity has the luxury of more time to create a photoshoot, article, music video, song etc. While still stressful, at least it's on their own terms.

Now if u are not releasing content every day or at least content every week, your youtube channel will get down-regulated on the search. Hence the endless need to keep producing and keep the flame going.

And the video production standards are quite high, so it's not like just upload randomly.  The better channels all have fairly good production values. 

 

[BabyBlade]

7 minutes ago, PSP415 said:

I hope they will have the proper rest and space needed especially after i read the part of suicide. 

Time to allow them to build very strong self esteem and have the strength to walk away from the negatives, without the need to lose themselves to be what 101 ppl want them to be.

I was puzzled by their very personal sharing and i do NOT know who they are or what is NOC.😖

I confess it was uncomfortable for me to watch the video with a persistent nagging thought in my mind - "why need to explain at all?"

For some its bravery to bare one's soul so openly. I want to think so too. 

No judgement here. I do not have the rights to, anyways. 

Wishing them all the best.

Some have strong friendships leading to marriage. Some have divorces leading to strong friendships. 

Its their personal journey and they alone can decide when the marriage vows are love bands and not chains of obligations. 

Just my tots 

Cheers

Maybe we won't understand the need to share because we don't put our personal lives out there for people to judge and criticize in the first place. But these are people who are already in the public eye especially Sylvia and are very used to sharing their daily lives. I think it's a fair thing to say that many millennial and Gen Z live their lives on the internet. 

[SuPerBoRed]

8 minutes ago, BabyBlade said:

Maybe we won't understand the need to share because we don't put our personal lives out there for people to judge and criticize in the first place. But these are people who are already in the public eye especially Sylvia and are very used to sharing their daily lives. I think it's a fair thing to say that many millennial and Gen Z live their lives on the internet. 

A simple we are no longer together becoz of xyz... ok chapter closed move on... 

to go on abt suicide attempt... how Cham it is to Kenna scold... not wanting the fame.. but love the money....

don’t get me wrong... I wish ntg bad on those two.. divorce is hard for anyone.. but I’m old school I guess.... sharing of these intimate information at this point reeks of a business decision rather than a personal one.

[Showster]

There is always much to learn from others’ lessons.

Should take it with some caution and not that it won’t happen to us.

 

[PSP415]

Just now, BabyBlade said:

Maybe we won't understand the need to share because we don't put our personal lives out there for people to judge and criticize in the first place. But these are people who are already in the public eye especially Sylvia and are very used to sharing their daily lives. I think it's a fair thing to say that many millennial and Gen Z live their lives on the internet. 

Yes.

U hit the nail on its head. 

From this angle, its perfectly normal then for such a video cos they have made the internet their home and its users their family.

There is a thin line between reality and make believe.

Internet world can be very addictive perhaps because one can get instant gratification from the many "likes" and "praises". And lots of money from advertisers or sponsors too if one's content is hugely popular and successful. 

It has the ability to build up and the same ability to destroy or "tear apart" one's life.

Thanks for sharing.

My generation is not to waste my time and life with "meaningless" or boh liao strangers per se. 😅😂😂 

Sincerely appreciate the insight. 

Take care

Cheers

[BabyBlade]

9 minutes ago, SuPerBoRed said:

A simple we are no longer together becoz of xyz... ok chapter closed move on... 

to go on abt suicide attempt... how Cham it is to Kenna scold... not wanting the fame.. but love the money....

don’t get me wrong... I wish ntg bad on those two.. divorce is hard for anyone.. but I’m old school I guess.... sharing of these intimate information at this point reeks of a business decision rather than a personal one.

Yeah I can see where you're coming from! 

[Jman888]

42 minutes ago, BabyBlade said:

Maybe we won't understand the need to share because we don't put our personal lives out there for people to judge and criticize in the first place. But these are people who are already in the public eye especially Sylvia and are very used to sharing their daily lives. I think it's a fair thing to say that many millennial and Gen Z live their lives on the internet. 

many people still waiting for your photo

 

[Throttle2]

7 minutes ago, Jman888 said:

many people still waiting for your photo

 

You never seen her Insta before mah

[Mockngbrd]

13 hours ago, BabyBlade said:

It's must be really heartbreaking to end a ten year relationship, especially one that you shared almost half your life with. To be able to come out and do a video about it, I think it's really brave of them, and more so for Ryan. The video itself is a good way to stop people from asking "Where's Ryan?" when he does not appear in her videos. This came up quite a lot when Sylvia checked into NCID recently due to a COVID-19 scare and it wasn't Ryan who brought her there and she didn't talk about Ryan throughout the entire video. I think it was mentioned somewhere in the comment section that he was filming hence he couldn't accompany her but the point is everyone (their fans) asked. 

If you have a long time gf/wife, and you don't bring her to your place for a long while, your parents will surely ask, where's ah girl? Your relatives will ask during CNY, wheres ah girl? Why never follow you come this year? Right? And then you'll have to explain to them. 

Ryan and Sylvia are celebrities in their own ways. They're famous in the YouTube community for their Food King series and other productions by NOC. I'm not a fan of them but I do enjoy some of their travel series. So just imagine how many people will speculate and ask about Where's Ryan Where's Sylvia on every new content that they churn out. I see this as a way of reaching out and reassuring their fans and also to their team, sponsors and clients that NOC will remain as NOC. The heart and soul of NOC remains. Nothing wrong with that. 

What can break a relationship/marriage? Many. Some are slow burn irreconcilable differences. 

- Infidelity aka cheating

- Incompatible issues discovered after living together (both can try to compromise but that's not always the case) 

- Money issues: one save, one spend all. Maybe one no stable job, always quit? The other partner start to feel the heat. Or maybe one is a workaholic. No time at home. 

- Addictions: Gambling, Alcohol

- Lack of communication: dishonesty, one is always trying to hide something, avoidance (not wanting to work out problems together, again, slow burn) 

- Physical/mental abuse:

- Mental illness

- Lack of commitment

- Lack of effort to maintain the marriage causing one side to feel neglected. 

The list goes on. It all depends on what your last straw is. 

Some got married on a whim, some shotgun so no choice. Deciding to spend the rest of your life with that one person shouldn't be an impulsive decision (or maybe it can be and maybe it can last) but marriage is for a lifetime and you need to really factor in his/her flaws and ponder over if these flaws are acceptable to you in the long run, or are you expecting and hoping your partner will change after marriage? This is when unrealistic expectations will break the relationship years down the road. And if you have doubts even before marriage, then think twice before plunging. 

Others get married because early in the relationship already BTO since it takes at least four years, BTO gonna be completed soon (risk losing all the money you've paid thus far if you decide to break up), wedding banquet paid, wedding photoshoots all done, all that pressure to lose it all and having to explain to family and friends to call it off at this point can be a difficult decision to make. Most couples will bite the bullet anyway and hope that things will change after marriage. Which brings us back to above, expecting someone to change causes unrealistic expectations. Half the time people don't change. 

So to summarize my long winded post there's  many reasons for a marriage to end in a divorce. And choosing to divorce doesn't always mean taking the easy way out, nor does it mean you have failed in life. I believe their marriage didn't collapse because the sparks ain't there anymore but rather due to deep rooted problems. 

Hopefully this can be a good closure for them and I wish them well. 

I summarize. Don't get married. 

[Mockngbrd]

12 hours ago, SuPerBoRed said:

A simple we are no longer together becoz of xyz... ok chapter closed move on... 

to go on abt suicide attempt... how Cham it is to Kenna scold... not wanting the fame.. but love the money....

don’t get me wrong... I wish ntg bad on those two.. divorce is hard for anyone.. but I’m old school I guess.... sharing of these intimate information at this point reeks of a business decision rather than a personal one.

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