COVID-19: Retrenchments

[13177]

14 hours ago, Windwaver said:

I know a few Malaysian PRs earn 5 figure a month and they continue to be PRs

 

Many malaysian will continue to be PR, esp if they married to a sporean here. At least they can go back to malaysia in future.

[13177]

58 minutes ago, Yewheng said:

There are many convert from pr to Singaporeans la. There are also many that try to convert from pr to Singaporeans but get rejected. 

Those who covert PR to sporeans is they want to buy BTO/EC lo. Enjoy the grants and low price of BTO flats and enjoy the atas of an EC. Last time i have one malaysian PR colleague, convert to sporean because he wants to buy EC but wife still remains as PR.

[Ody_2004]

13 minutes ago, 13177 said:

Many malaysian will continue to be PR, esp if they married to a sporean here. At least they can go back to malaysia in future.

If i not wrong due to the changes in their housing policy some years back.. once become Singaporean they cannot own any private property there..

Yes alot of Malaysian who are PR here got no intention to convert.. even those who converted hoh they are more loyal to their country than Singapore.. from my own experience having working with them at least 20 years

[Philipkee]

23 minutes ago, 13177 said:

Annual $25k already included allowances and bonus? So average per month is only about $2100? Consider low in this current standard of living le.

Yup.  But that was 2001.  Assume that there has been a S$500 per month increase for new nurses.  So instead of $1500, its $2000.  That would be another $7500 (500 x 15).  Which would be monthly about $600+?  So one can argue the new nurses starting monthly is $2600 plus monthly if you look at it this way.  So does it mislead?  Up to you to think.  Cos it's accurate but when you look at salaries in job adverts, the monthly salary is the monthly salary and not the yearly salary plus expected bonuses and allowances etc/ 12.  

Edited August 25, 2020 by Philipkee

[Adrianli]

8 hours ago, Mockngbrd said:

I dated a sg nurse once... Kenna frenzone... Pui! 

The nurse was very smart.

[Voodooman]

23 hours ago, Yewheng said:

https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=227900175243164&id=112349436809101

 

DPM hsk explained the rational on free trade agreement and also explained that ceca is not the main cause of large Indian population working in Changi Business park. He also explained that they did not give any rights for other countries to be able to freely convert to Singapore citizenship, pr and also mom have control on WP, EP. Watch from 21.50mins to 25.20mins for dpm Heng full explanation. 

 

If that's the case, then how these financial institutions able to skirt around the system and bring in massive Indians national to Changi Business hub and inevitably affect job placements for locals? In anyway, it seems like the majority of the concern is concentrated to Indians nationals in Changi Business park. There is not so much of saying ang moh concentration, Japanese concentration and etc.. So how these Indians national managed to go around the system? They really darn intelligent sia.. As in intelligent till able to go around the system that no other nationalities in the world managed to do that in Singapore. 

 

Last but not least, with dpm Heng say like that, mom have to answer lao.. Coz its not ceca problem based on what dpm Heng said.. He said its mom control on WP and EP. Ta ra.. So now ball goes to mom. Mom now have difficult task to answer if someone ask mom that ceca questions on why approved so many EP from Indians national and a lot congregate and work in Changi Business park. 

 

So there is a control for EP then?  What is the ratio or number allocated? I thought the quota system and foreign worker levy is only applicable to the S Pass and Work Permit (WP). 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/bilateral-agreements-have-not-jeopardised-employment-opportunities-for

SINGAPORE - Bilateral agreements that Singapore signed with other countries have not jeopardised employment opportunities for Singaporeans, Deputy Prime Minister Heng Swee Keat said on Sunday (Aug 23).

In fact, they have opened doors to better jobs.

Responding to criticisms about how free trade agreements or comprehensive economic cooperation agreements had caused Singapore to "sign away important protection for Singaporean (jobs)", Mr Heng said that such statements were totally false.

[Jman888]

4 minutes ago, Philipkee said:

Yup.  But that was 2001.  Assume that there has been a S$500 per month increase for new nurses.  So instead of $1500, its $2000.  That would be another $7500 (500 x 15).  Which would be monthly about $600+?  So one can argue the new nurses starting monthly is $2600 plus monthly if you look at it this way.  So does it mislead?  Up to you to think.  Cos it's accurate but when you look at salaries in job adverts, the monthly salary is the monthly salary and not the yearly salary plus expected bonuses and allowances etc/ 12.  

i saw the nurse recruitment ads in msia hospital (public), starting pay RM700 for new hire without experience 

[Ody_2004]

2 minutes ago, Jman888 said:

i saw the nurse recruitment ads in msia hospital (public), starting pay RM700 for new hire without experience 

I think our NS Combat medic paid higher then that! 😂

 

[Weez911]

39 minutes ago, Voodooman said:

So there is a control for EP then?  What is the ratio or number allocated? I thought the quota system and foreign worker levy is only applicable to the S Pass and Work Permit (WP). 

https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/manpower/bilateral-agreements-have-not-jeopardised-employment-opportunities-for

SINGAPORE - Bilateral agreements that Singapore signed with other countries have not jeopardised employment opportunities for Singaporeans, Deputy Prime Minister Heng Swee Keat said on Sunday (Aug 23).

In fact, they have opened doors to better jobs.

Responding to criticisms about how free trade agreements or comprehensive economic cooperation agreements had caused Singapore to "sign away important protection for Singaporean (jobs)", Mr Heng said that such statements were totally false.

Wa this is open eyes say blind words. *bravo*

[ToyotaShuttle]

9 hours ago, Mockngbrd said:

I dated a sg nurse once... Kenna frenzone... Pui! 

kanna friendzone how to be considered dated?

[13177]

59 minutes ago, Ody_2004 said:

If i not wrong due to the changes in their housing policy some years back.. once become Singaporean they cannot own any private property there..

Yes alot of Malaysian who are PR here got no intention to convert.. even those who converted hoh they are more loyal to their country than Singapore.. from my own experience having working with them at least 20 years

Correct, i know a few malaysian PR who convert to sporean and yet they still treat themselves as malaysian and always go back to malaysia if they have time. They convert to sporean just enjoy the benefits here and low cost of housing. Other than that they are still malaysian than sporean. Lol.

[Windwaver]

1 hour ago, Kopites said:

I know why you pui 

If she has went out with you still in her uniform.....😍instead of this 😬

 

One of my mate 2 decades ago was courting a nurse as well. Everytimes during group meet up seeing her my mind. ...go ...if she in uniform   ...how.....of course didn't let my mate know...hahaha always using my limited medical knowlege from army to strike up a conversation. 

Bro, you combat medic ah?

I heard many 'interesting stories' of female casualty leh, wonder if that's true.

[ToyotaShuttle]

1 hour ago, 13177 said:

Annual $25k already included allowances and bonus? So average per month is only about $2100? Consider low in this current standard of living le.

he is talking about 20 years ago tho.

[Volvobrick]

57 minutes ago, Ody_2004 said:

I think our NS Combat medic paid higher then that! 😂

 

I think our NSF recruits are paid higher.... 

[ToyotaShuttle]

1 hour ago, Ody_2004 said:

If i not wrong due to the changes in their housing policy some years back.. once become Singaporean they cannot own any private property there..

Yes alot of Malaysian who are PR here got no intention to convert.. even those who converted hoh they are more loyal to their country than Singapore.. from my own experience having working with them at least 20 years

How will SG govt know what property you own or don't own in a foreign country?

[Kopites]

1 hour ago, Fcw75 said:

In Singapore ah? Hehe

In his hometown ipoh. 

In Singapore he merely bunk in a hdb rental room. Didn't touch his cpf. Merely monthly remit his pay back to his sister for the mortgages.

What he gave up is family ties in Ipoh.

Are we complaining too much? I am really don't know. I am one of the many complainant but give and take are we really willing to make such sacrifices like my colleague? 

No answer. 🤔

[Fcw75]

1 hour ago, Adrianli said:

The nurse was very smart.

Probably the smartest decision she made. She can sense he’s a playa. 😆

Edited August 25, 2020 by Fcw75

[Mockngbrd]

Complain about them for what? It is not their fault for gaming the system if the system allows itself to be gamed.