Leo72 6th Gear September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, t0y0ta said: Schemes like ASEAN scholarship have been there since the birth of the nation. And I do know good people from neighbouring countries who have come and study because of these schemes and become citizens or contributors to society. Do not confuse real good talent (from overseas) that we nurture from school days and CECAians coming in from south asia degree mills. Real Talent Scholars shouldn't have problem finding a job in Singapore after graduation to full-fill their bonds but those "fake talent" who come here to study and end up having average or worse results than Singaporeans. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman888 Moderator September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 11 minutes ago, Enye said: i have never seen a foreign scholar from a poor background those awarded these scholarships do not need the financial help in the first place. they got it through information and network which poor but good people will never have access to in their home countries are we really helping the poor from these countries through these schemes or just for the sake of reputation of our country? 😬 Every year many countries will have overseas university fair just like here also have uni fair from US, UK, OZ, etc. NUS/NTU will recruit overseas students at these events, which some could be poor or not so well off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-support-grant-revised-criteria-extended-applications-13133578?cid=emarsys-cna_20200923_0100_FINAL+CNA+Mon+to+Sat+newsletter+(0740)_newsletter_23092020_cna&sc_customer=e7f4422c-8dbb-463a-8109-73f5c1f1b045&sc_src=email&sc_llid=55297&sc_lid=109602044&sc_uid=ILmjnHBTjW good, should hv tightened it long ago. in fact, should not give to any applicant who owns a private property. Tighten it more. Dont raid our reserves! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ct3833 Supersonic September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 18 minutes ago, Throttle2 said: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-support-grant-revised-criteria-extended-applications-13133578?cid=emarsys-cna_20200923_0100_FINAL+CNA+Mon+to+Sat+newsletter+(0740)_newsletter_23092020_cna&sc_customer=e7f4422c-8dbb-463a-8109-73f5c1f1b045&sc_src=email&sc_llid=55297&sc_lid=109602044&sc_uid=ILmjnHBTjW good, should hv tightened it long ago. in fact, should not give to any applicant who owns a private property. Tighten it more. Dont raid our reserves! They also learn and fine-tune the framing along the way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Throttle2 Supersonic September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 19 minutes ago, Ct3833 said: They also learn and fine-tune the framing along the way. A bit slow if you ask me. I expect more from cream of the crop 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, Throttle2 said: good, should hv tightened it long ago. in fact, should not give to any applicant who owns a private property. Tighten it more. Dont raid our reserves! yalor ... some amdk land ... getting covid-19 support "salary" is better than go to work ... stay home netflix and have beer ... Edited September 23, 2020 by Wt_know 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 2 hours ago, Throttle2 said: https://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/singapore/covid-19-support-grant-revised-criteria-extended-applications-13133578?cid=emarsys-cna_20200923_0100_FINAL+CNA+Mon+to+Sat+newsletter+(0740)_newsletter_23092020_cna&sc_customer=e7f4422c-8dbb-463a-8109-73f5c1f1b045&sc_src=email&sc_llid=55297&sc_lid=109602044&sc_uid=ILmjnHBTjW good, should hv tightened it long ago. in fact, should not give to any applicant who owns a private property. Tighten it more. Dont raid our reserves! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158995918182052&id=587852051 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ody_2004 Turbocharged September 23, 2020 Share September 23, 2020 1 hour ago, Kopites said: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=10158995918182052&id=587852051 Creating job is one thing.. creating Quality Job is another.. in terms of quantity look promising.. BUT take for example 500 lost their job where avg salary say $5000 and creating 50 jobs that pay $2000 or less? only those in White will say "GOOD Job!, we done it! " 😂 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 38 minutes ago, Ody_2004 said: Creating job is one thing.. creating Quality Job is another.. in terms of quantity look promising.. BUT take for example 500 lost their job where avg salary say $5000 and creating 50 jobs that pay $2000 or less? only those in White will say "GOOD Job!, we done it! " 😂 That article did also stated one very disheartening point. We singaporean now depend on foreigners for creation of job!😬 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ody_2004 Turbocharged September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 Just now, Kopites said: That article did also stated one very disheartening point. We singaporean now depend on foreigners for creation of job!😬 Actually for my case is true lah.. when i was retrenched back in 2008 i was jobless till 2010.. until my current company give me the chance to join them. My industry was very new in Sg then.. so need their expertise to run it.. good thing is as the years goes by.. permits holder are gradually released and Singaporean took over their position. So certain industries we do need them for startup here. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volvobrick Supersonic September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 4 minutes ago, Kopites said: That article did also stated one very disheartening point. We singaporean now depend on foreigners for creation of job!😬 Yeah, more foreigners, more Customs Immigration staff, more MOM staff to check on them, more police to patrol, more prosecutors to deal with the law breaking ones, and more staff for the politicians to write reasons why foreigners create jobs for us! 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopites Supersonic September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 3 hours ago, Volvobrick said: Yeah, more foreigners, more Customs Immigration staff, more MOM staff to check on them, more police to patrol, more prosecutors to deal with the law breaking ones, and more staff for the politicians to write reasons why foreigners create jobs for us! Those are essential civil services regardless of nationality they must be available. What I meant was self sustainable economic growth. What brought us to a state where we need the import of foreigner to create job market for local? Couldnt we local "create" our own job market? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubwee Supercharged September 24, 2020 Share September 24, 2020 55 minutes ago, Kopites said: Those are essential civil services regardless of nationality they must be available. What I meant was self sustainable economic growth. What brought us to a state where we need the import of foreigner to create job market for local? Couldnt we local "create" our own job market? I read that 99% of the companies in Singapore are SME and employs around 75% of the workforce . That would means that the 1% which i suppose are MNC employs the remaining 25% of the workforce . 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustank Hypersonic September 25, 2020 Share September 25, 2020 (edited) https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/spore-should-go-from-being-a-nation-of-tech-consumers-to-tech-producers-vivian 2020 1989 Edited September 25, 2020 by Mustank 2 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atonchia Supersonic September 25, 2020 Share September 25, 2020 I really cannot sleep.... I am working in AMDK MNC..... Many years now.... Where SG GOV signed many many bilateral treaties......... We need them, they need us.... I got AMDK boss and AMDK junior peers. All are fine.... Until their position are in under scrutiny.... My AMDK junior peer try to consolidate his contribution.... We had outsourced most of the lower level jobs to 3rd party.... Most are slowly attrited .... These are Pioneer and Merdeka generation staff.... Had to let them go bcos ROI not there.... Ecommerce taken over etc..... Just cut away these people and divert the spend $$$$ on these ecommerce partners.... We can forsake these lower level jobs..... Am I holding too much sentiments to protect jobs for these people or should I go with the flow? 1 3 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged September 26, 2020 Share September 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Atonchia said: I really cannot sleep.... I am working in AMDK MNC..... Many years now.... Where SG GOV signed many many bilateral treaties......... We need them, they need us.... I got AMDK boss and AMDK junior peers. All are fine.... Until their position are in under scrutiny.... My AMDK junior peer try to consolidate his contribution.... We had outsourced most of the lower level jobs to 3rd party.... Most are slowly attrited .... These are Pioneer and Merdeka generation staff.... Had to let them go bcos ROI not there.... Ecommerce taken over etc..... Just cut away these people and divert the spend $$$$ on these ecommerce partners.... We can forsake these lower level jobs..... Am I holding too much sentiments to protect jobs for these people or should I go with the flow? If u look at the Japanese bank, cultural wise, they still need to feel great to have office “no” deliver documents from one supervisor cubicle to the next. Just so that the rubber stamp and signature of receipt is there. Is that really necessary in this day and age?. No. But if you discard that “service” how will the foreign be able to get their on line delivery send to the office? 😂. Certain things are there not because of jobs retention. More of convenience Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voodooman Supersonic September 26, 2020 Share September 26, 2020 6 hours ago, Atonchia said: I really cannot sleep.... I am working in AMDK MNC..... Many years now.... Where SG GOV signed many many bilateral treaties......... We need them, they need us.... I got AMDK boss and AMDK junior peers. All are fine.... Until their position are in under scrutiny.... My AMDK junior peer try to consolidate his contribution.... We had outsourced most of the lower level jobs to 3rd party.... Most are slowly attrited .... These are Pioneer and Merdeka generation staff.... Had to let them go bcos ROI not there.... Ecommerce taken over etc..... Just cut away these people and divert the spend $$$$ on these ecommerce partners.... We can forsake these lower level jobs..... Am I holding too much sentiments to protect jobs for these people or should I go with the flow? Tough decision. It is normal to not sleep well, it means you are not a sociopath. These are people with families and some may really need the job but then human lives have been sacrificed for much less. I know of someone who quit his job during this period coz he refused to be the one issuing the pink slips to people he has known for years. Others will happily do it by putting on (hiding behind) their corporate hat. ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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