Mercedes Benz's Engine Downsizing Strategy

[TeamAMG69]

23 hours ago, Carbon82 said:

Did you all read the 1st post or not??

This thread is about engine downsizing strategy of Merceds-Benz, where I specifically mention 3 models using the same 1.5L engine...

1. C160
2. E180
3. CLS260

For those that don't know what is going on, go and read the 1st post again...

you missed out the original

W205 Face Lift C200 1.5 mild hybrid (as per MB FB Q&A confirmed)

ths is the engine that started all these off spring 

 

[Sdf4786k]

On 5/16/2020 at 1:52 PM, ER-3682 said:

8.6 Secs is in Lab test,real Life,in our hot Country,will be 10 Secs...

most diesel taxis like the sonata can easier do 8 sec and outgun most cars.

1.5T cannot do 8 secs must be either the driver want to save fuel or always jack rabbit type.

[TeamAMG69]

2 hours ago, Sdf4786k said:

most diesel taxis like the sonata can easier do 8 sec and outgun most cars.

1.5T cannot do 8 secs must be either the driver want to save fuel or always jack rabbit type.

you mean this sonata taxi? do 8 sec?

 

[kobayashiGT]

8 minutes ago, TeamAMG69 said:

you mean this sonata taxi? do 8 sec?

 

The diesel version one. This is the petrol version.

[Mkl22]

49 minutes ago, kobayashiGT said:

The diesel version one. This is the petrol version.

Hmm. A simple search yields this. 
https://www.auto-data.net/en/hyundai-sonata-v-nf-2.0-crdi-16v-140hp-automatic-29729

[TeamAMG69]

7 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

Hmm. A simple search yields this. 
https://www.auto-data.net/en/hyundai-sonata-v-nf-2.0-crdi-16v-140hp-automatic-29729

 

so where is the 8 sec ?

 

 

[Mkl22]

25 minutes ago, TeamAMG69 said:

 

so where is the 8 sec ?

 

 

why you asking me?

[Brass]

38 minutes ago, TeamAMG69 said:

 

so where is the 8 sec ?

 

 

Actually diesel runs out of puff at like 60 to 70 kmph, iirc.

So though their pick up at traffic lights are awesome, they still have longer 0 to 100 timing.

[inlinesix]

2 minutes ago, Brass said:

Actually diesel runs out of puff at like 60 to 70 kmph, iirc.

So though their pick up at traffic lights are awesome, they still have longer 0 to 100 timing.

I always drive my fren Triton pickup.  It doesn't run out of puff till 120km/h.

[Brass]

9 hours ago, inlinesix said:

I always drive my fren Triton pickup.  It doesn't run out of puff till 120km/h.

Hmm...maybe I guess, I dont really have a diesel car (those 1.6) at my disposal.

The turbodiesel Hilux 3.0 that I had a chance to drove was really powerful, but maybe it was as in your case too, is a big displacement engine.

Time to molest...

 

rental Opel Mokkas.

[Ake109]

And the sad thing is that this is all for 'Paper emissions' which is achievable on a mint car using whatever cycle the test requires.

In the real world and after wear and tear, I believe the real emissions differ quite a bit.

I mean, look at stop start tech, you save 1mpg on paper but if your battery/starter up lorry 25% faster, there goes your savings and of course the carbon footprint of manufacturing those parts offsets whatever fuel saved too.

[inlinesix]

9 hours ago, Brass said:

Hmm...maybe I guess, I dont really have a diesel car (those 1.6) at my disposal.

The turbodiesel Hilux 3.0 that I had a chance to drove was really powerful, but maybe it was as in your case too, is a big displacement engine.

Time to molest...

rental Opel Mokkas.

It is 2.4L 

[Brass]

5 hours ago, inlinesix said:

It is 2.4L 

Ah...ok. Is it the new Triton?

I meant that the engines of both should be about there, in the range of 2-3L.

[Vinceng]

Seems like the E180 has been discontinued

https://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_overview.php?CarCode=12798

 

Notice that there is no mention of the 1.5L engine capacity in the E180

 

[Ct3833]

On 5/16/2020 at 1:12 PM, Thaiyotakamli said:

If it sells well next will be s class S260 with 1.5L engine

 

imagine the engine bay half full😂

Nice, CLS 260. I have started my 10 year saving plan, hopefully by then i could afford one.

 

[Ct3833]

2 hours ago, Vinceng said:

Seems like the E180 has been discontinued

https://www.sgcarmart.com/new_cars/newcars_overview.php?CarCode=12798

 

Notice that there is no mention of the 1.5L engine capacity in the E180

 

Sell the high profit margin model first,  the lower end E180 will come 2 years later

[camrysfe]

7 hours ago, Ct3833 said:

Sell the high profit margin model first,  the lower end E180 will come 2 years later

Likely the case 

[Vinceng]

1 hour ago, camrysfe said:

Likely the case 

I saw the 1.5L E180 being listed in sgcarmart just last month.

Probably discontinued as the price difference with the 2.0L E200 is marginal.

 

Edited December 16, 2020 by Vinceng