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4th Gen - 2020 Toyota Harrier

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andrewyewkc

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1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

A lot ppl might not feel that it is that powderful due to change from atkinson cycle (idling) to otto cycle (moving off).

The atkinson cycle feels very underwhelming, lethargic and no eagerness to go.

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Watwheels

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2 hours ago, Daniu82 said:

I understand. Because of this, BM then bring in turbo version to fight them. But also I heard that the turbo version also not as powerful like the 227hp that it claims to have. Any owners of the turbo version can comment on this?

I test drive it a couple of times last year. I was choosing between the Harrier turbo vs the new RAV4. But I end up choosing the latter. You cant feel the performance for a couple of reasons. It's a quiet drive hence you dont hear the exhaust roar and you wont feel the higher speed. It's not an engaging drive you would expect from the 2.0L turbo engine. 

The suspension of the Harrier is also on the softer side for comfort. It has got this floaty-ish feel at higher speeds. Can feel the body roll around bends. 

Overall it's disappointing to me. Overall as in the premium price and what you are getting in the package as a whole. What it felt like is a repackaged old car that's selling at a premium. The power train and gb doesnt feel like it's meant for this car. It's not since it was from the 2015 NX200t. It feels more suited if it were to be in a sedan maybe like in a Camry. Old car is becos the Harrier design has been around for more than 5 or 7 years? Anyway I felt that way cos I was comparing to the new RAV4 which has a more modern interior. To others they may feel different.

It's definitely fast in the straight if that's your thing. For me fuel economy is a more practical choice for my daily drive that's why I chose the RAV4. I think I will only get to use a fraction of the Harrier's power daily if I choose it. If you want a 2.0L TC car I would suggest looking at Skoda's VRS sporty sedan. That would give you what you would expect.

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On 5/19/2020 at 12:13 PM, andrewyewkc said:

The atkinson cycle feels very underwhelming, lethargic and no eagerness to go.

That sums up my experience with the IS and NX turbos too. And the figures confirm it too.

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Fellows

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It’s officially release in Japan. 

Let see whether AD BM or PI will bring in first. 
There is 2.5L Hybrid or 2.0L Petrol. Toyota Safety Sense by default and officially come with Apple CarPlay and Android Auto on this default headunit. 
 

Total of 5 variant to choose either from 2WD or 4WD from lowest grade S to highest grade Z Leather Package.

 

 

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l0nEr

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Anybody knows when the new harrier will be coming ?
With the new one coming, would it still make sense to buy the current 2017 Harrier? especially directly from Borneo.

Thanks!

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Kia7200

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Wait till u check out the $156k toyota prius hybrid from BM

I have hard time to convince those TL regarding the overpriced toyota cars

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4 minutes ago, Kia7200 said:

Wait till u check out the $156k toyota prius hybrid from BM

I have hard time to convince those TL regarding the overpriced toyota cars

How come prius + cheaper? Weird le haha

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Mkl22

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7 hours ago, Kia7200 said:

Wait till u check out the $156k toyota prius hybrid from BM

I have hard time to convince those TL regarding the overpriced toyota cars

Used by PHVs. Not too ex for them. Funnily you hardly see any Kia being used as PHVs. Guess not reliable enough

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Kia7200

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8 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

How come prius + cheaper? Weird le haha

Similar question I asked them

Why BM selling 2l turbo mij harrier cheaper than a 2l na mit camry. One of the TL defended BM by saying pi mecrz is cheaper than AD mecrz because blah blah blah.

Sometimes I really vomit blood talking to them

 

 

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38 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

Used by PHVs. Not too ex for them. Funnily you hardly see any Kia being used as PHVs. Guess not reliable enough

Not sure y u suddenly mentioned Kia? 

I do see Renault used as taxi

I also see Opel used as phv

So those brands r reliable? And maybe this is how u define reliability? 

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11 minutes ago, Kia7200 said:

Not sure y u suddenly mentioned Kia? 

I do see Renault used as taxi

I also see Opel used as phv

So those brands r reliable? And maybe this is how u define reliability? 

Toyota still the best seller in the region. The Millions who buy are still voting with their wallets

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inlinesix

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9 minutes ago, Mkl22 said:

Toyota still the best seller in the region. The Millions who buy are still voting with their wallets

Toyota Singapore & Malaysia lost that crown to Honda liao

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