Budget 2020: Encouraging Use of More Environmentally Friendly Vehicles

[inlinesix]

3 minutes ago, Vinceng said:

Electric Vehicles will go the way of Diesel Vehicles.

Govt slowly keep adding & increasing excise duty to diesel, and now the price diff between diesel and 95RON petrol is only $0.30/litre, or $15 for a full tank.

Assume you pump a tankful weekly, that's an annual savings of $720 on diesel, but you pay an extra $470 in diesel tax annually (comparing a 1.5 litre petrol & diesel car), which reduces the savings to a mere $250 annually.

And diesel cars cost more to purchase.

Still saving of $250/annum

[Khng8]

5 minutes ago, Vinceng said:

Electric Vehicles will go the way of Diesel Vehicles.

Govt slowly keep adding & increasing excise duty to diesel, and now the price diff between diesel and 95RON petrol is only $0.30/litre, or $15 for a full tank.

Assume you pump a tankful weekly, that's an annual savings of $720 on diesel, but you pay an extra $470 in diesel tax annually (comparing a 1.5 litre petrol & diesel car), which reduces the savings to a mere $250 annually.

And diesel cars cost more to purchase.

 

 

But diesel gives better mileage so you may pump once every two weeks instead of weekly.

 

[pi3142]

This EV early adoptive incentive stacks with VES? Or replace the VES?

If can stack could reduce ARF more compare to now.  If not, this policy sound like tax and not incentive. .

[Soya]

1 hour ago, inlinesix said:

I have bicycle & skate scooters at home waiting for the days of CAR LITE.

U got PMD or not?

And a black mask to go w that...

 

[inlinesix]

25 minutes ago, Soya said:

U got PMD or not?

And a black mask to go w that...

PMD only for senior citizen.

 

[Soya]

4 minutes ago, inlinesix said:

PMD only for senior citizen.

 

So means u have lah

 

[kelaihoyin]

I got a question . 

They say fuel excise duty is to discourage people to drive and therefore less vehicles on the road.

Isn't the COE there for this reason? 🙃

[inlinesix]

2 minutes ago, Soya said:

So means u have lah

Skate scooter is PMD

[Sdf4786k]

I suppose the ITE students syllabus for the vehicle engineering group has been upgraded to have Hyundai and Toyota as well as TESLA cars to be made available to help take the industry forward ?

 With Toyota plant available in Thailand and Hyundai Plant in Vietnam, the cost of having the students attached to the plants to get hands on build experience will help shape them and be better prepared for the industry revolution just like the aeronautical industry.

[Cheefarn]

50 minutes ago, Vinceng said:

Electric Vehicles will go the way of Diesel Vehicles.

Govt slowly keep adding & increasing excise duty to diesel, and now the price diff between diesel and 95RON petrol is only $0.30/litre, or $15 for a full tank.

Assume you pump a tankful weekly, that's an annual savings of $720 on diesel, but you pay an extra $470 in diesel tax annually (comparing a 1.5 litre petrol & diesel car), which reduces the savings to a mere $250 annually.

And diesel cars cost more to purchase.

 

 

Diesel gives you significantly more mileage and big torque o/p from idle onwards.. 

Twice the mileage of the same reg gasoline powered model. The savings can be substantial if you have those mid to full size SUVs...  SUVs with small NA engines will be a waste of time, diesel is required for these machines... and these machines are the in thing now. 

[Enye]

1 hour ago, Xers007 said:

Till date to me, full EV is still not an effective and realistic proposition for SG. Unless every lot is equipped with a charger which means i dont have to fret waking up in the middle of the night to unplug and shift the car for another owner to charge theirs on the limited shared charger. I dont have to fret queuing up to charge my car not knowing if i am able to get my turn to charge it up for next day. I dont have to fret not able to drive away in 5 mins when it ran out of juice. I would think petrol-hybrid would be the best stopgap for the next 5-10years till the charging infra is fully built up.  

sg govt better build a charging point every 1m on both the causeway and tuas 2nd link to and from jb....

and also every rest stop and hotel in malaysia

😅

[Knoobie]

1 hour ago, Goldenvodka said:

Dont make any sense... They should be giving rewards to existing car owners with old cars maybe 10 years and above to replace it with a new electric car with their existing COE with no tax.

The whole idea was to discourage people from owning cars. If people die die want car, must buy "clean" cars. 

I'll not be surprised after this they U Turn and say EVs need to be tax for the carbon footprint caused by providing recharge. Or battery disposal tax.. 

 

[inlinesix]

55 minutes ago, Sdf4786k said:

I suppose the ITE students syllabus for the vehicle engineering group has been upgraded to have Hyundai and Toyota as well as TESLA cars to be made available to help take the industry forward ?

 With Toyota plant available in Thailand and Hyundai Plant in Vietnam, the cost of having the students attached to the plants to get hands on build experience will help shape them and be better prepared for the industry revolution just like the aeronautical industry.

I don’t think either plant built any EV yet.

[Soya]

Hmmm......now that SG going the EV way, Dyson may revive it's electric car project in Sg

Maybe that'll take over Vezel & C180 as our national car

 

[Voodooman]

4 hours ago, Cheefarn said:

I've said it b4 and I will say it again. Full EV vehicle doesn't make you friend of mother earth. You are just passing the pollution quotient from your own car to our power station. Our power stations will need to work double or triple hard when all cars are full EV. And unless SG adopts nuclear power stations, we will pollute the earth way more if every vehicle in SG goes full electric. 

And no one can give me any clear explanation what will happen to your EV when your batt dies. And how env friendly are those spent batt be when they go to the rubbish dump? 

And how will u guys charge your EV when you are in some kampong area in Bolehland? Or what's preventing you from being mugged and robbed when your lone EV is being charged at some remote charging stations in some unsafe neighborhood? 

Rem even with a 70-80L gas tank, it takes ard 5-6 mins to refuel from empty. Is there any DC charger out there that can charge at least 80% from empty in similar time? Every min delay at the remote charging facility in the middle of the night exposes you to more risks of getting mugged. 

You either charge at home or at work and SG is not really very big lah. Who will wait while the battery is being charged? That is not the value proposition.  It is also not a car you drive to KL due to range anxiety.

ICE has a thermal efficiency rate of 20-30% while SG power plants have thermal efficiency that are easily doubled that. You will burn less fossil fuel and reduce carbon footprint (Assuming the battery don't add to it but don't think anyone here knows the maths).

 

[Mockngbrd]

I in jippun now. Brand new Honda s660 sgd25-30k can buy. Pui. 

[ferrytales]

Just like few years back for diesel and cng. End up failed project. 

[Sdf4786k]

3 hours ago, Voodooman said:

You either charge at home or at work and SG is not really very big lah. Who will wait while the battery is being charged? That is not the value proposition.  It is also not a car you drive to KL due to range anxiety.

ICE has a thermal efficiency rate of 20-30% while SG power plants have thermal efficiency that are easily doubled that. You will burn less fossil fuel and reduce carbon footprint (Assuming the battery don't add to it but don't think anyone here knows the maths).

 

Yeah .. at the end of 10 years, there is a huge burden to replacement and dispose of the battery responsibly