Playtime Twincharged December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 https://www.straitstimes.com/singapore/education/07-of-foreign-scholarship-holders-here-are-indian-nationals ↡ Advertisement 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 (edited) MOE quotes 1 in 16,000 students derived from this percentage. But it is a misleading figure because it includes the entire student population in secondary level and pre-U, and as we know, scholars are concentrated only in certain elite institutions MOE should give a breakdown, reveal this percentage for secondary level (and even then, for select group of elite schools only where scholars typically are posted) and pre-U. Then we talk about how the percentage looks like. Edited December 6, 2019 by Sosaria 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged December 6, 2019 Author Share December 6, 2019 What caught my eye... Quote "One in 16,000 secondary, pre-U students is a scholarship holder from India, says MOE in response to online talk" Unquote Why only up to pre U?? why exclude post pre U data?? 🤔 Quote "International students on scholarships currently make up 0.9 per cent of secondary and pre-university students here, amounting to more than 1,700 students." Unquote What does these secondary and pre U students contribute to or economy and security? Or are they all defence scientist in waiting... compared to how many(?) local born students on scholarship. Quote "The spokesman added: "Some of the international students eventually sink roots here." Unquote So how much per student? Compared to poor citizens who get their result slips Chong gong. And still.... where the fish is the post pre U data🤔 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sosaria Twincharged December 6, 2019 Share December 6, 2019 4 minutes ago, Playtime said: What caught my eye... Quote "One in 16,000 secondary, pre-U students is a scholarship holder from India, says MOE in response to online talk" Unquote Why only up to pre U?? why exclude post pre U data?? 🤔 Quote "International students on scholarships currently make up 0.9 per cent of secondary and pre-university students here, amounting to more than 1,700 students." Unquote What does these secondary and pre U students contribute to or economy and security? Or are they all defence scientist in waiting... compared to how many(?) local born students on scholarship. Quote "The spokesman added: "Some of the international students eventually sink roots here." Unquote So how much per student? Compared to poor citizens who get their result slips Chong gong. And still.... where the fish is the post pre U data🤔 "Sink roots" and become more Ramesh here ... you want?? ... Mai lah ... please just go 7 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RH1667 Hypersonic December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Sosaria said: "Sink roots" and become more Ramesh here ... you want?? ... Mai lah ... please just go In the first place should not even offer to pay them to come. 5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor68 Turbocharged December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 Why this subject respond so fast with data and CECA so quiet without data or I missed them? 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbon82 Moderator December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 1 hour ago, Victor68 said: Why this subject respond so fast with data and CECA so quiet without data or I missed them? Election coming, POFMA to deal with those more clearcut "fake news" while statistics at play for misinformation that don't fit into fake news category. For the rest of the missing information, just have to pray hard that people forget about it. 9 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inlinefour Twincharged December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 5 hours ago, Carbon82 said: Election coming, POFMA to deal with those more clearcut "fake news" while statistics at play for misinformation that don't fit into fake news category. For the rest of the missing information, just have to pray hard that people forget about it. my tiongkok born singaporean friend kids all got scholarship one dun play play pink ic one leh 2 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged December 7, 2019 Author Share December 7, 2019 31 minutes ago, Inlinefour said: my tiongkok born singaporean friend kids all got scholarship one dun play play pink ic one leh I always wonder how many local blood go overseas study and never come back as a result. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 One reason I heard. Might not be true. The govt award a lot of scholarships to regional students because of the potential benefit to singapore. Some sink roots. Some contribute. But there is another factor. These students are supposedly the elite in their country. They might return to their home countries. And they might excel. And become a national leader. So we want them to have a friendly attitude towards Singapore. And that is one of the reasons why we sponsor then. Cos out of the thousands one might be president. And we want that person to be friendly to us. Good bet or bad bet we will only know in the future. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Playtime Twincharged December 7, 2019 Author Share December 7, 2019 28 minutes ago, Philipkee said: One reason I heard. Might not be true. The govt award a lot of scholarships to regional students because of the potential benefit to singapore. Some sink roots. Some contribute. But there is another factor. These students are supposedly the elite in their country. They might return to their home countries. And they might excel. And become a national leader. So we want them to have a friendly attitude towards Singapore. And that is one of the reasons why we sponsor then. Cos out of the thousands one might be president. And we want that person to be friendly to us. Good bet or bad bet we will only know in the future. Thay might be applicable and true in lky time. But now.. 🙄🤔 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash2017 Twincharged December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 9 hours ago, Carbon82 said: Election coming, POFMA to deal with those more clearcut "fake news" while statistics at play for misinformation that don't fit into fake news category. For the rest of the missing information, just have to pray hard that people forget about it. engineer sir you need to know that there are many kinds of scholarship we don't know how they calculate they should also include Bursary Scholarship the scholarship given by MOE or does it also include scholarship given by MNC such as Temasek and etc or even schools have their own scholarship etc so I suspect the numbers are grossly under reported basically, they should include all Indian students who have obtain any form of financial benefits the numbers will scare the hell you out of your slide-ruler 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyrios Turbocharged December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 If singapore gibe free education to true blues maybe birth rate will spike upwards...invest in these brains and mebbe we can rely on less foreign headcount.. 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kusje Supersonic December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Philipkee said: One reason I heard. Might not be true. The govt award a lot of scholarships to regional students because of the potential benefit to singapore. Some sink roots. Some contribute. But there is another factor. These students are supposedly the elite in their country. They might return to their home countries. And they might excel. And become a national leader. So we want them to have a friendly attitude towards Singapore. And that is one of the reasons why we sponsor then. Cos out of the thousands one might be president. And we want that person to be friendly to us. Good bet or bad bet we will only know in the future. The real elites don't come to Singapore la. All go US or Europe. If it is as you claim, we will only know in the future, then no need for responsibility anymore? Edited December 7, 2019 by Kusje 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged December 7, 2019 Share December 7, 2019 (edited) 4 hours ago, Kusje said: The real elites don't come to Singapore la. All go US or Europe. If it is as you claim, we will only know in the future, then no need for responsibility anymore? Actually you dont know for sure all elites go to USA or europe. If you are talking about the politically connected students, yes I agree. But academically inclined students of average background? Who knows? It's like hedging the bets that some will become of certain stature in the future in their country. Responsibility? Of cos. Ultimately the minister for education is responsible for this. Unfortunately, not sure which minister said this, with high pay, no minister would ever resign of his own volition unless sacked or forced to. Even if he wanted to, his wife would stop him. So that is why sometimes it seems that accountability is absent. Edited December 7, 2019 by Philipkee Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sdf4786k Twincharged December 8, 2019 Share December 8, 2019 15 hours ago, Philipkee said: One reason I heard. Might not be true. The govt award a lot of scholarships to regional students because of the potential benefit to singapore. Some sink roots. Some contribute. But there is another factor. These students are supposedly the elite in their country. They might return to their home countries. And they might excel. And become a national leader. So we want them to have a friendly attitude towards Singapore. And that is one of the reasons why we sponsor then. Cos out of the thousands one might be president. And we want that person to be friendly to us. Good bet or bad bet we will only know in the future. I totally agree with you. That’s the same reason I gave to my wife when buying Toto when it hit 8mil or more 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solar Turbocharged December 8, 2019 Share December 8, 2019 15 hours ago, Philipkee said: One reason I heard. Might not be true. The govt award a lot of scholarships to regional students because of the potential benefit to singapore. Some sink roots. Some contribute. But there is another factor. These students are supposedly the elite in their country. They might return to their home countries. And they might excel. And become a national leader. So we want them to have a friendly attitude towards Singapore. And that is one of the reasons why we sponsor then. Cos out of the thousands one might be president. And we want that person to be friendly to us. Good bet or bad bet we will only know in the future. The reverse can also happen... Study here, not happy for whatever reason, remember for life.. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind30 Turbocharged December 8, 2019 Share December 8, 2019 13 hours ago, Kyrios said: If singapore gibe free education to true blues maybe birth rate will spike upwards...invest in these brains and mebbe we can rely on less foreign headcount.. ? The article is about pre-u scholarship.... I think singaporean get almost free education... ↡ Advertisement 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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