kelaihoyin 5th Gear July 9, 2020 Share July 9, 2020 5 minutes ago, 13177 said: Maybe for some honda cars, the number of airbags still have not catch up? Think shuttle also comes with 2 airbags. Is not Honda, is KahMotor, sacrificing safety for profit margins. ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitvip Supersonic July 9, 2020 Share July 9, 2020 13 minutes ago, kelaihoyin said: Is not Honda, is KahMotor, sacrificing safety for profit margins. Don't blame Kah Motor, it is the tax structure, C & E, GST, ARF etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator July 9, 2020 Share July 9, 2020 14 minutes ago, kelaihoyin said: Is not Honda, is KahMotor, sacrificing safety for profit margins. I know local AD can remove some items to reduce the OMV n hence increase profit margins but I don’t think u can indent with reduce airbags as they shld be standard? 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thecarboy302 3rd Gear July 9, 2020 Share July 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Spring said: That’s what that bro says but another bro says got side airbags so I’m not sure. Frankly, in this day n age, 6 airbags are a minimum. Vios has 7 whilst even an entry level car like Attrage has 6 as well so no excuses but let’s find out officially before knocking them. Screengrab from Honda Singapore website. But at just $1k less than the Civic, this is one tough sell. Edited July 9, 2020 by Thecarboy302 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic July 9, 2020 Share July 9, 2020 17 minutes ago, Thecarboy302 said: Screengrab from Honda Singapore website. But at just $1k less than the Civic, this is one tough sell. But the drive between civic and city feel quite different. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelaihoyin 5th Gear July 9, 2020 Share July 9, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Fitvip said: Don't blame Kah Motor, it is the tax structure, C & E, GST, ARF etc I believe if other brands can bring in more airbags at similar pricing, then is not just because of the tax structure. Is that other brands choose to bring in lesser features as compared to safety. So maybe KM is not sacrificing it for margins, but definitely not placing safety as priority. 1 hour ago, Spring said: I know local AD can remove some items to reduce the OMV n hence increase profit margins but I don’t think u can indent with reduce airbags as they shld be standard? The current gen City in Malaysia has more airbags than SG model. I believe indent lesser airbags is no issue. Edited July 9, 2020 by kelaihoyin Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wongpumpkins 2nd Gear July 9, 2020 Share July 9, 2020 2 hours ago, Spring said: That’s what that bro says but another bro says got side airbags so I’m not sure. Frankly, in this day n age, 6 airbags are a minimum. Vios has 7 whilst even an entry level car like Attrage has 6 as well so no excuses but let’s find out officially before knocking them. Sorry..my bad..missed front side airbags..by the way, i still think 7 airbags should be standard now since base variant vios can offer..i initially put city in my shortlist too but need to take away now.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged July 12, 2020 Share July 12, 2020 Talked to my SE. The demo honda city should be appearing in Kah Showroom soon. If I go there to molest the car, I will gpgt here 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fellows 4th Gear July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 (edited) On 7/12/2020 at 6:46 PM, Philipkee said: Talked to my SE. The demo honda city should be appearing in Kah Showroom soon. If I go there to molest the car, I will gpgt here Does our AD MIT come with Honda Sensing? Damn...still that old 1.5L engine instead of the 1.0L Turbo engine as seen in Thai market, rear brake still using drums, come on its 2020 how expensive and rear disc brake be. In Japan, Honda Sensing is a default safety feature on higher grade model for their Accord, CR-V, Civic, Vezel (aka HR-V) and Grace (aka City), Shuttle and Fit. PI need to up the game and bring in JDM Grace with Honda sensing and with more airbags. Super envious other nations always get same model with better spec and cheaper price. Edited July 14, 2020 by Fellows Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefarn 5th Gear July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 47 minutes ago, Fellows said: Does our AD MIT come with Honda Sensing? Damn...still that old 1.5L engine instead of the 1.0L Turbo engine as seen in Thai market, rear brake still using drums, come on its 2020 how expensive and rear disc brake be. In Japan, Honda Sensing is a default safety feature on higher grade model for their Accord, CR-V, Civic, Vezel (aka HR-V) and Grace (aka City), Shuttle and Fit. PI need to up the game and bring in JDM Grace with Honda sensing and with more airbags. Super envious other nations always get same model with better spec and cheaper price. FYI, JDM Honda has dropped Grace and the FC CIvic sedan by this mid year. Sales have been too poor and sedans are tough sell over there. Its SUV and minvans over there Once again, Civic has been dropped from JDM lineup for the 2nd time in recent history due to poor sales. Only the Civic Type Ah Ler remains but not for long since the UK factory is slated to close this year too. Only the current gen Accord remains in JDM as the sole sedan offering. But the current Accord looks like a rushed and unfinished product. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xers007 Supercharged July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 On 7/9/2020 at 8:00 PM, Spring said: I know local AD can remove some items to reduce the OMV n hence increase profit margins but I don’t think u can indent with reduce airbags as they shld be standard? I think can indent for lesser spec, e.g the airbags under the A pillar cover or side normally has an airbag tag or printing/emboss. If remove locally still need to order extra cover if not how to remove the tag and the printing/emboss. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spring Moderator July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 5 minutes ago, Xers007 said: I think can indent for lesser spec, e.g the airbags under the A pillar cover or side normally has an airbag tag or printing/emboss. If remove locally still need to order extra cover if not how to remove the tag and the printing/emboss. Airbag is a safety gadget, I don't think u can remove this kind of gadgets locally. Anyway it makes no sense to import with the airbag and then remove locally cos u would hv already been charged tax on this which thus defeats the purpose of removing. Perhaps it may be possible to indent less airbags but let's wait for the official launch to see how many airbags are in the City for models here. I would expect 6 which is the standard in most cars today. 3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 https://www.honda.com.sg/new-cars/sedan/city.html Wah the colours like not much variation... shade of white to black plus one red. Thinking hard now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 9 minutes ago, Philipkee said: https://www.honda.com.sg/new-cars/sedan/city.html Wah the colours like not much variation... shade of white to black plus one red. Thinking hard now. Want? Just buy la. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philipkee Twincharged July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 3 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Want? Just buy la. Still thinking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 Just now, Philipkee said: Still thinking. What to think? Just buy la Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
13177 Hypersonic July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, Philipkee said: https://www.honda.com.sg/new-cars/sedan/city.html Wah the colours like not much variation... shade of white to black plus one red. Thinking hard now. Indeed nothing much nice colour to choose. But the steel metallic seems not bad?! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ceecookie 5th Gear July 14, 2020 Share July 14, 2020 6 hours ago, Fellows said: Does our AD MIT come with Honda Sensing? Damn...still that old 1.5L engine instead of the 1.0L Turbo engine as seen in Thai market, rear brake still using drums, come on its 2020 how expensive and rear disc brake be. In Japan, Honda Sensing is a default safety feature on higher grade model for their Accord, CR-V, Civic, Vezel (aka HR-V) and Grace (aka City), Shuttle and Fit. PI need to up the game and bring in JDM Grace with Honda sensing and with more airbags. Super envious other nations always get same model with better spec and cheaper price. The problem is the Honda brand sell itself. Buyers particular thrifty ones will not mind engines dating back to 2000s and drum brakes/other basic parts because they just want the car to go from point A to B without problem. Secondly is Singapore market is being lumped together with other ASEAN countries where GDP is lower and average buyers are not rich enough to afford the latest car technologies (which push the cost higher). ↡ Advertisement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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