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Auto hold is almost a must for me. 

 

I simply do not like stepping on brake while stationary  and blind the drivers/passenger behind me unnecessarily. 

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1 hour ago, Atrecord said:

Oh really? What car was that?

Quite a few people i know (driving the same car as me), do not use the auto-hold feature, but I like it a lot. Can rest my foot during traffic light or jams.

If it's not a must to have EPB, in order to have auto-hold, then manufacturers should really do it more frequently, or even as a norm.

My previous car was a MB W212.

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1 hour ago, Hamburger said:

Auto hold is almost a must for me. 

 

I simply do not like stepping on brake while stationary  and blind the drivers/passenger behind me unnecessarily. 

For RWD, just pull handbrake lo.  No need autohold.

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1 hour ago, Hamburger said:

Auto hold is almost a must for me. 

 

I simply do not like stepping on brake while stationary  and blind the drivers/passenger behind me unnecessarily. 

But autohold will still means brake light is on leh... doesn't help the blinding part, but sure can rest the leg 👍

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1 hour ago, Toeknee_33 said:

My previous car was a MB W212.

OK... So far haven't heard of any of the Jap makes with foot brake or hand brake having auto-hold though.

If only have, will be so convenient...

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8 minutes ago, Davidtch said:

For RWD, just pull handbrake lo.  No need autohold.

Aiyah, if pull handbrake or the footbrake (parking brake), then still must deactivate it before moving off mah. If jam, have to keep doing this, very mar fun...

whereas for auto-hold, just step the normal brake pedal till complete stop, then can lift foot off pedal and no need do anything else. So much more convenient.

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3 hours ago, Atrecord said:

But autohold will still means brake light is on leh... doesn't help the blinding part, but sure can rest the leg 👍

really??? later i go check out.

 

need an extra pair of eyes though, as once i opened the door , the transmission will go into P.

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3 hours ago, Davidtch said:

For RWD, just pull handbrake lo.  No need autohold.

cant get used to flicking my fingers for handbrake.

 

autohold rocks !!!!!

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18 hours ago, Hamburger said:

really??? later i go check out.

 

need an extra pair of eyes though, as once i opened the door , the transmission will go into P.

yah, i had the exact same question and problem, cos i also initially tot auto-hold is like parking brake instead of the normal brake - i.e. no brake light...

later someone here said got brake light, and i also wanted to see for myself... So one day i gos-tan with car back towards a glass door (that can see reflections), and then tried it that way... And found indeed got brake light.

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42 minutes ago, Atrecord said:

yah, i had the exact same question and problem, cos i also initially tot auto-hold is like parking brake instead of the normal brake - i.e. no brake light...

later someone here said got brake light, and i also wanted to see for myself... So one day i gos-tan with car back towards a glass door (that can see reflections), and then tried it that way... And found indeed got brake light.

Same thought with you.

 

I double checked and indeed there were brake light. Time to  use my finger for that hand brake switch. 

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On 10/30/2019 at 9:38 AM, Carbon82 said:

So the million dollar question: Will there be a Lexus version soon? XLM?

Lexus has the Lexus LM already, for China and selected Asia markets only. 😁 I doubt they will do another bigger luxo van. 

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The surprising thing to me is that compared to the Alphard/Veilfire front-wheel drive platform, Toyota still insists on a rear wheel drive platform for this latest 6th generation Hiace (GrandAce) which predominantly is meant for goods ferrying. Shouldn't a front wheel drive chassis be better for space? 

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10 hours ago, Lethalstrike said:

The surprising thing to me is that compared to the Alphard/Veilfire front-wheel drive platform, Toyota still insists on a rear wheel drive platform for this latest 6th generation Hiace (GrandAce) which predominantly is meant for goods ferrying. Shouldn't a front wheel drive chassis be better for space? 

While I do not have an official answer to your question, but from a user perspective (I have hands on experience with driving van and lorry under full load condition), I think it might have something to do with the way the van is typically loaded.

Delivery guy will normally place the load nearer to tailgate for easier loading / unloading. And by doing that, steering will get a little lighter too (imagine in the older days when power steering is not even an option). If using a FWD arrangement, the van might not able to move properly, since contact of front wheel with road surface may be impaired.

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2 hours ago, Carbon82 said:

While I do not have an official answer to your question, but from a user perspective (I have hands on experience with driving van and lorry under full load condition), I think it might have something to do with the way the van is typically loaded.

Delivery guy will normally place the load nearer to tailgate for easier loading / unloading. And by doing that, steering will get a little lighter too (imagine in the older days when power steering is not even an option). If using a FWD arrangement, the van might not able to move properly, since contact of front wheel with road surface may be impaired.

I think you're right and did a quick Google on my own. Basically, rwd has better traction when loaded on the rear wheels, better weight distribution thru the drivetrain.

https://vandimensions.com/info/why-are-most-trucks-rear-wheel-drive

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toyota being toyota, the design still looks very outdated. still stone age on handbrake. what a design for new models like this nowadays. no innovation and ideas.

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On 11/3/2019 at 5:53 AM, StreamRSZ said:

toyota being toyota, the design still looks very outdated. still stone age on handbrake. what a design for new models like this nowadays. no innovation and ideas.

This was originally a van, so a manual handbrake is not such an atrocity lah. Toyota is not as backward as you think. 

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Available in 6 or 8 seater configuration. While I cannot say the same for drive and handling, it look equally luxurious as the Lexus LM, in the look department.

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Very overpriced when it's a Toyota. Believe this will be more popular with companies looking for VIP or chauffeur driven cars instead. 

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