2019 Mercedes-Benz GLB-Class (X247)

[Spring]

How's the feedback on A-Class's performance & Drive ?

 

Basically is a JV engine , if driving A class with 4 Pax is ok , then current judgement 2 Pax on GLB 200 is ok .

 

Good news is Road Tax and COE Cat = A Class !

 

Bring in price can benchmark against UK model , just need to be patient to watch up the launch price and work the ratio then it should be around there.

 

Yet there's rumor that it would be pricier than GLC, but not sure how true can that be.

This car COE category is in Cat B due to the >130hp

[Spring]

My guess:

 

GLB200 5 seater likely priced between GLA and GLC

GLB250 7 seater to be priced along side or higher than GLC

U could be right but C&C would be missing a great chance to volume sell if they don’t bring in GLB200 7 seater. Unfortunately this GLB200 will be in COE Cat B otherwise it would sell even more.

 

The success of the BMW 2GT is due to the low price n being in Cat A which unfortunately this GLB is unlikely to match but there is still a market for premium 7 seater at reasonable price n even more so as it’s been reported that BMW will not be coming out with a new model for the 2GT.

[Mkl22]

U could be right but C&C would be missing a great chance to volume sell if they donât bring in GLB200 7 seater. Unfortunately this GLB200 will be in COE Cat B otherwise it would sell even more.

 

The success of the BMW 2GT is due to the low price n being in Cat A which unfortunately this GLB is unlikely to match but there is still a market for premium 7 seater at reasonable price n even more so as itâs been reported that BMW will not be coming out with a new model for the 2GT.

No more mercs in CatA liao.

[Alextoh76]

Spore gets this.

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[titarium]

U could be right but C&C would be missing a great chance to volume sell if they don’t bring in GLB200 7 seater. Unfortunately this GLB200 will be in COE Cat B otherwise it would sell even more.

 

The success of the BMW 2GT is due to the low price n being in Cat A which unfortunately this GLB is unlikely to match but there is still a market for premium 7 seater at reasonable price n even more so as it’s been reported that BMW will not be coming out with a new model for the 2GT.

 

Over look on HP keep thinking of comparison against BMW 2GT, no chance for Cat A , but with Cat A doubt the drive would be nice .

 

looking of what had been share with current COE the price expected for GLB 200 would be :

PI : 160-170 k

C&C : 175 - 190 k 

[Spring]

The 3rd row do not seems to sit as low as the BMW 2GT.

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Yes looks definitely higher than the BMW 2GT. Sitting higher means better thigh support which is important esp for adults

[Tohto]

U could be right but C&C would be missing a great chance to volume sell if they don’t bring in GLB200 7 seater. Unfortunately this GLB200 will be in COE Cat B otherwise it would sell even more.

 

The success of the BMW 2GT is due to the low price n being in Cat A which unfortunately this GLB is unlikely to match but there is still a market for premium 7 seater at reasonable price n even more so as it’s been reported that BMW will not be coming out with a new model for the 2GT.

If Cat with less than 130bhp, so under power how to drive.

No fun at all.

[Spring]

If Cat with less than 130bhp, so under power how to drive.

No fun at all.

The BMW 216GT diesel version is only 116hp but torque is 270nm n with that torque, its a good drive in local conditions as the instant torque enables quick take off from standstill n this also enables easy overtaking and confident changing of lanes. Don’t need high hp in our local roads for most cars anyway esp MPVs.

 

I’m not sure of the petrol version of the GT which has even lower hp n torque but so far not heard complaints yet.

[Tohto]

The BMW 216GT diesel version is only 116hp but torque is 270nm n with that torque, its a good drive in local conditions as the instant torque enables quick take off from standstill n this also enables easy overtaking and confident changing of lanes. Don’t need high hp in our local roads for most cars anyway esp MPVs.

 

I’m not sure of the petrol version of the GT which has even lower hp n torque but so far not heard complaints yet.

Diesel is different, torque is high.

[Vratenza]

Noticed no rear seat aircon vents. 

 

The GLB250 same or similar engine output as the GLC250. But 0-100 about 0.2-0.3s faster.. Think is due to the 8DCT. Should be very drivable in SG traffic. 

 

The 3rd row do not seems to sit as low as the BMW 2GT.

 

It size seems the same as GLC (GLB in Red, GLC in Metallic Grey), with a shorter bonnet than the latter too.

From Left to Right: G Glass, GLS, GLE, GLC, GLB and GLA

 

And the GLB 250 4MATIC's spec look impressive (especially in consideration that it is 4 wheel driven).

 

This shall be one of the highly sort after model from the 3 point star, once it hit our shore. Anytime a >3 months waiting list...

 

[inlinesix]

A class has A180d that fits Cat A COE.  But need to pay extra $500 road tax

[Vratenza]

The current generation m274 petrol engine is very drivable in city traffic like ours. 

 

 

This is the A 250 power torque graph, but they use the same engine across their 250s range. 

 

The max peak torque arrives very early just slighy before 1800rpm (in a way very diesel-like early peak torque) and remains flat all the way to 4000rpm (unlike diesel, the torque band is wider and the hp climbs higher at higher speed) . Depending on the drive mode, the gear would have upshifted by 3000-4000rpm...so during acceleration, you will always be in the power band sweetspot. The smooth shifting 9 speed with close ratio helps keep the rev within the power band. 

It will be interesting to see if the 8DCT can match or overtake the 9speed auto in terms of smoothness and reliability. 

 

At licence losing speed of 180-200, the engine is also willing to rev further and overtaking is not laborous. 

 

I am pretty impressed with merc 4 pot turbo performance to be frank... Coming from a subaru 2.5 4 pot turbo previously. 

 

The BMW 216GT diesel version is only 116hp but torque is 270nm n with that torque, its a good drive in local conditions as the instant torque enables quick take off from standstill n this also enables easy overtaking and confident changing of lanes. Don’t need high hp in our local roads for most cars anyway esp MPVs.

I’m not sure of the petrol version of the GT which has even lower hp n torque but so far not heard complaints yet.

 

Edited June 23, 2019 by Vratenza

[Carbon82]

The current generation m274 petrol engine is very drivable in city traffic like ours. 

 

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This is the A 250 power torque graph, but they use the same engine across their 250s range. 

 

The max peak torque arrives very early just slighy before 1800rpm (in a way very diesel-like early peak torque) and remains flat all the way to 4000rpm (unlike diesel, the torque band is wider and the hp climbs higher at higher speed) . Depending on the drive mode, the gear would have upshifted by 3000-4000rpm...so during acceleration, you will always be in the power band sweetspot. The smooth shifting 9 speed with close ratio helps keep the rev within the power band. 

It will be interesting to see if the 8DCT can match or overtake the 9speed auto in terms of smoothness and reliability. 

 

At licence losing speed of 180-200, the engine is also willing to rev further and overtaking is not laborous. 

 

I am pretty impressed with merc 4 pot turbo performance to be frank... Coming from a subaru 2.5 4 pot turbo previously. 

 

GLB is using a newer version of the M270 (transverse) / M274 (longitude), code name M260 (transverse).

 

The two-litre M 260 engine in the GLB 250 4MATIC (combined fuel consumption 7.4-7.2 l/100 km, combined CO2 emissions 169-165 g/km)1 has cast-iron cylinder liners in its engine block of diecast aluminium, widening at the lower end as per the CONICSHAPE® principle. In-house the cylinder bore process is descriptively known as "trumpet-honing". This minimises piston friction and cuts consumption. In the aluminium four-valve cylinder head, the CAMTRONIC variable valve timing system allows two-stage adjustment of the valve lift on the intake side.

 

To further minimise piston friction and lower fuel consumption, the cylinder bore is widened at the lower end of the cylinder liners. The resulting, conical shape resembles the mouth of a trumpet. An innovative low-friction oil and optimised piston rings also reduce friction losses. To take account of the higher specific output, the pistons themselves feature cooling ducts. This also ensures more efficient combustion. The balance shafts for smooth engine-running are located in the lower section of the crankcase.

 

Also new in the aluminium four-valve cylinder head of the two-litre engine is CAMTRONIC, a variable valve timing system that allows two-stage adjustment of the valve lift on the intake side of the valve assembly. In the partial-load range, this variable valve lift adjustment allows less air to be fed to the combustion chamber with a smaller valve lift, which leads to lower gas cycle losses. In higher load ranges the system switches to the higher valve lift to achieve the engine's full power delivery.

 

Multiple fuel injection ensures optimum combustion despite the smaller valve lift. This compensates the reduced turbulence of the fuel/air mixture in the combustion chamber in the area of the spark plug. The four-cylinder has direct injection with latest-generation piezo injection valves. The position of the injectors has been optimised to achieve low cylinder wall coverage and therefore lower untreated emissions, especially particulate emissions. A particulate filter is included as standard. Thanks to optimised injection with partial valve lift, the engine runs even more quietly in wide operating ranges. A low level of exhaust emissions has been achieved by further development of the well-proven BlueDIRECT combustion system in conjunction with the standard petrol particulate filter.

 

The single-pipe turbocharger features an electronically controlled wastegate valve. The previously vacuum-operated actuator has been replaced by a precision electrical actuator, which reports its position and has a higher actuating speed, so that charge pressure control and diagnosis are significantly improved. This allows charging to be more precisely controlled.

 

The oil circuit is supplied with engine oil on a demand basis. Sensors monitor the oil pressure so that the supply volume can be adjusted. The cooling circuit has an electronically controlled thermostat which allows the engine temperature to be optimally set to suit needs.

 

To make engine operation more comfortable, a new centrifugal damper has been introduced into the powertrain as an addition to the balance shafts. This improves the engines NVH characteristics and allows comfortable driving possible at lower rpm. The exhaust system with flap control has the same purpose.

 

The engine is configured for front-wheel drive and 4MATIC all-wheel drive, and combined with the 8G-DCT dual clutch transmission. The M 260 engine is produced by the Kölleda plant.

[Heartlander]

Another excellent detail review done by Thomas. He is about 1.9m tall and he can fit in just nice in all 3 rows by adjusting the middle row, though getting into 3rd row is abit difficult.

 

[Douglam]

Yes looks definitely higher than the BMW 2GT. Sitting higher means better thigh support which is important esp for adultsð

Not hard to achieve. The 3rd row seats in the 2GT is probably one of the lowest seats I've ever seen in a car. Well...other than the front seats in supercars. Lol.

[Hrh]

Wonder how will it be priced here considering it is based on A class chasis

[Spring]

Not hard to achieve. The 3rd row seats in the 2GT is probably one of the lowest seats I've ever seen in a car. Well...other than the front seats in supercars. Lol.

Actually most mid sized n SUV MPVs have this low sitting stance for the 3rd row unlike full size MPVs but this GLB seems the exception so it’s definitely a plus point.

 

It has to be low otherwise the roof will have to be higher n that means a boxy shape. I guess u can’t have it both ways ie low stance with a sleeker roofline or higher stance with a boxy n higher roofline.

[Heman75]

Actually most mid sized n SUV MPVs have this low sitting stance for the 3rd row unlike full size MPVs but this GLB seems the exception so it’s definitely a plus point.

 

It has to be low otherwise the roof will have to be higher n that means a boxy shape. I guess u can’t have it both ways ie low stance with a sleeker roofline or higher stance with a boxy n higher roofline.

the key now is how is cnc going to price this model.. almost same size as GLC. will it be cheaper like below 200k? or more expensive than GLC. if price cheaper then GLC will bein trouble...and this GLB has some form of GLK