Soya Supersonic March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 32 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: I understand the overtrade deal - for higher loan, and also as a means for the AD to hide extra discounts given to a particular customer. I guess my question is how is the "base" trade-in price established? By PA inhouse valuer (A) or a 3rd party used car dealer (B)? For example, B may value your trade-in at $100k, but A at $92k, a gap of $8k. That will distort the effective price by $8k. Easy answer is never trade in. Whatever the SE quote u is usually BS as there's no transparency and probably w a hidden margin there for "freebies" and extra profit. Go sell it directly or thru Quotz, walk in w bargaining power without being beholden to whatever shitty trade in price that can be manipulated by the SE ↡ Advertisement 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Soya said: Easy answer is never trade in. Whatever the SE quote u is usually BS as there's no transparency and probably w a hidden margin there for "freebies" and extra profit. Go sell it directly or thru Quotz, walk in w bargaining power without being beholden to whatever shitty trade in price that can be manipulated by the SE yes. always argue that with or without trade in, what is the the final price that’s the price you are willing to pay. with trade in i will push for another 1-2k because with trade in they make another 8k-10k profit from the resale of your trade in car Edited March 14, 2020 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey 1st Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Sinster said: I would say every part of the pricing is individually negotiable and usually inflated to hide some margin for the dealer. eg a fair market price for your trade in car maybe $40K, but they will quote $36-$39 and then use the over trade of $10K to imply you are getting $46-$49K. I look at the net price as without all discounts. That's why my calculation of effective price is so far different from that of PA! Anyway, I use my own calculation to decide whether I got a fair deal before signing. Problem is most of us are over-eager (excitement of buying a new car) and don't give ourselves sufficient time to review the numbers or the time to cool off and think rationally. I am definitely guilty! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey 1st Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Soya said: Easy answer is never trade in. Whatever the SE quote u is usually BS as there's no transparency and probably w a hidden margin there for "freebies" and extra profit. Go sell it directly or thru Quotz, walk in w bargaining power without being beholden to whatever shitty trade in price that can be manipulated by the SE From my personal experience, it is a hassle to sell directly. Usually you end up selling to a used car dealer, and if lucky, get a couple of grand more. But you subject yourself to all sort of inconveniences with low ballers and also get humiliated by buyers who want to know down your price. There's also the paperwork to be done. But the biggest fear is to sell your car and encounter problems getting your money or some other scam. So as a result, my last few purchases have always been on a trade-in basis. You lose a few grand but have peace of mind! 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 4 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: From my personal experience, it is a hassle to sell directly. Usually you end up selling to a used car dealer, and if lucky, get a couple of grand more. But you subject yourself to all sort of inconveniences with low ballers and also get humiliated by buyers who want to know down your price. There's also the paperwork to be done. But the biggest fear is to sell your car and encounter problems getting your money or some other scam. So as a result, my last few purchases have always been on a trade-in basis. You lose a few grand but have peace of mind! Soya already highlighted to you the route of Quotz as well. Money is the easiest problem. No cashier order no talk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 20 minutes ago, inlinesix said: Soya already highlighted to you the route of Quotz as well. Money is the easiest problem. No cashier order no talk. Hahahaa....nvm lah bro. Guess some don't mind paying tuition fees to get thru a very simple test 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey 1st Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 Adding another layer, cuts the $ benefits of selling direct. Also, not so convenient from a timing standpoint - you cant buy a new car until you have sold your car and funds in hand. Right? Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. Its an option for some Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
inlinesix Hypersonic March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 11 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: Adding another layer, cuts the $ benefits of selling direct. Also, not so convenient from a timing standpoint - you cant buy a new car until you have sold your car and funds in hand. Right? Anyway, thanks for the suggestion. Its an option for some You can always sell it before booking new car. Just take cab for a few mths. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey 1st Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 Same - inconvenience. Anyway, not my preferred route. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siglap19 Neutral Newbie March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 (edited) Hi guys, Currently hesitant between Pulse Orange and Dew Silver right before signing the contract with PA, I wonder if this choice would affect my car's resale value; would Pulse Orange be too flashy to be commonly accepted? Many thanks in advance for any insight from you guys here. Edited March 14, 2020 by siglap19 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soya Supersonic March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, inlinesix said: You can always sell it before booking new car. Just take cab for a few mths. I was never without a car when I sell first b4 picking up new car Not exactly rocket science to know the ETA of the new car vs when to release extg car 1 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Htancl 1st Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 (edited) Those who have test drove the Q3 or Q3 SB, do you guys find the engine slightly rough?Power seem to be sufficient but engine is not smooth. Heard it's still using the previous gen 1.4T. This is the only factor that I am still pondering, everything else fit what I'm looking for. Edited March 14, 2020 by Htancl Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wt_know Supersonic March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 (edited) 1 minute ago, Htancl said: Those who have test drove the Q3 or Q3 SB, do you guys find the engine slightly rough?Power seem to be sufficient but engine is not smooth. Heard it's still using the previous gen 1.4T too bad it's not the latest 1.5L turbo that is in 2020 A3 SB? Edited March 14, 2020 by Wt_know Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Treestar 1st Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 Well 1.4TSI is a veteran engine so hopefully it has been improved over the yrs. Avoid the 1.5 with hybrid batt...afyer warranty, batt replacement cost is a bomb.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehorse 1st Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 2 hours ago, Htancl said: Those who have test drove the Q3 or Q3 SB, do you guys find the engine slightly rough?Power seem to be sufficient but engine is not smooth. Heard it's still using the previous gen 1.4T. This is the only factor that I am still pondering, everything else fit what I'm looking for. Yes, I felt the engine is rough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firehorse 1st Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 5 hours ago, siglap19 said: Hi guys, Currently hesitant between Pulse Orange and Dew Silver right before signing the contract with PA, I wonder if this choice would affect my car's resale value; would Pulse Orange be too flashy to be commonly accepted? Many thanks in advance for any insight from you guys here. How much was quoted? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yappyw 2nd Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 12 hours ago, siglap19 said: Hi guys, Currently hesitant between Pulse Orange and Dew Silver right before signing the contract with PA, I wonder if this choice would affect my car's resale value; would Pulse Orange be too flashy to be commonly accepted? Many thanks in advance for any insight from you guys here. Yes it will affect your resale value. White/Black/Silver are the best. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yappyw 2nd Gear March 14, 2020 Share March 14, 2020 14 hours ago, Jeffrey said: From my personal experience, it is a hassle to sell directly. Usually you end up selling to a used car dealer, and if lucky, get a couple of grand more. But you subject yourself to all sort of inconveniences with low ballers and also get humiliated by buyers who want to know down your price. There's also the paperwork to be done. But the biggest fear is to sell your car and encounter problems getting your money or some other scam. So as a result, my last few purchases have always been on a trade-in basis. You lose a few grand but have peace of mind! Tried Quotz before, I woule say it's quite hasslefree, just that you need to drive down and spend probably an hr for them to check your car and test-drive. Dealer quoted me $68K but end up I got $75K from Quotz. They gave me the flexibility of handing over my car within 2wks if I rem correctly. ↡ Advertisement 6 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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