Hong Kong protesters demonstrate against extradition bill

[Heartlander]

11 minutes ago, Beregond said:

in any case we are discussing the video that u post showing a guy being attack by the protester.

how come drift until hkpf there?? more power then takumi🤣

David claimed hkpf started the vicious cycle by using excessive force mah. I only stated the obvious that any anger should be directed at hkpf, and not the citizens who do not agree with the rioters' view. This is called 欺善怕恶。Very cowardly behavior. 

[inlinesix]

6 hours ago, Heartlander said:

Has the hkpf been using more unnecessary force now than June? 

And dont you find troubling where this force is targetting? The weak and elderly? Should not the anger be towards the hkpf since it is the one deemed to be using unnecessary force? It is like 2 adults fighting in carpark over parking lot, and the kid or the elderly parent of the winner got punched somewhere later when he was not around. This is purely cowardice at best, with deep character flaw. 

Definitely.

As professional law enforcement force, their job is to use necessary leading to arrest.

[inlinesix]

5 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Yes pride and care thats why zero casualty. If in western country, many would have died

Should they act like AMDK?

[inlinesix]

 

3 hours ago, t0y0ta said:

The rioters are definitely PAID for their hard work and dedication. This is why CIA needs a big Budget to spend on “demon-cracy” activities.

Rather than CIA, these ppl can also be supported by 紅二代。

Not forgetting XJP has a lot of internal enemies.

[inlinesix]

1 hour ago, Heartlander said:

David claimed hkpf started the vicious cycle by using excessive force mah. I only stated the obvious that any anger should be directed at hkpf, and not the citizens who do not agree with the rioters' view. This is called 欺善怕恶。Very cowardly behavior. 

Why are we always discussing about violence here?
There are a million and 1 videos from both sides.

I agree both sides should stop the violence.

Who should stop 1st?

[Thaiyotakamli]

1 minute ago, Davidtch said:

Why are we always discussing about violence here?
There are a million and 1 videos from both sides.

I agree both sides should stop the violence.

Who should stop 1st?

The rioters.

 

if the rioters can leave the area before stipulated time, why police need to use tear gas and go catch people?

 

police always come prepared with baton and tear gas to deal with rioters.

 

but why rioters bring metal rod, hammer, petrol bomb and acidic liquid in first place? 

 

If those rioters empty handed, never attack police and leave before protest time ended, u think police need to use action? 

 

Stop smoking yourself, u r the first one always shout police brutality

[Heartlander]

There have been reports that US government directly linked to these hk student leaders, including Joshua Wong and Denise. Key word is Oslo Freedom Forum. Please watch the video in entirety.

And this press report below. USA is definitely the 幕后黑手。 This is hard evidence instead of just hearsay that China is responsible.

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/hong-kong-protesters-trained-at-oslo-freedom-forum-before-anti-extradition-protest-speakers-include-denise-ho-hk-singer-and-political-activist-and-al-qaida-affiliated-white-helmet-raed-al-saleh/

 

[inlinesix]

11 minutes ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

The rioters.

 

if the rioters can leave the area before stipulated time, why police need to use tear gas and go catch people?

 

police always come prepared with baton and tear gas to deal with rioters.

 

but why rioters bring metal rod, hammer, petrol bomb and acidic liquid in first place? 

 

If those rioters empty handed, never attack police and leave before protest time ended, u think police need to use action? 

 

Stop smoking yourself, u r the first one always shout police brutality

Was it like that in June?
You are the one who are propagating violence 

This is vicious cycle as I had a million and 1 times

Edited November 3, 2019 by Davidtch

[inlinesix]

6 minutes ago, Heartlander said:

There have been reports that US government directly linked to these hk student leaders, including Joshua Wong and Denise. Key word is Oslo Freedom Forum. Please watch the video in entirety.

And this press report below. USA is definitely the 幕后黑手。 This is hard evidence instead of just hearsay that China is responsible.

https://www.dimsumdaily.hk/hong-kong-protesters-trained-at-oslo-freedom-forum-before-anti-extradition-protest-speakers-include-denise-ho-hk-singer-and-political-activist-and-al-qaida-affiliated-white-helmet-raed-al-saleh/

 

Ya ya CIA is the evil behind all these.

How does it benefit USA?

[Thaiyotakamli]

1 hour ago, Davidtch said:

Was it like that in June?
You are the one who are propagating violence 

This is vicious cycle as I had a million and 1 times

Yes in june they tried to enter legco building illegally. Police use force to stop them. U complaint its police brutality. 

Then weeks later the rioters entered legco building and vandalised, u complaint police set trap for them to enter

Then demand from one become five because of their own action, u blame hk govt and police incompetent. 

 

I am curious what weed u smoke? Seems like hell great!!

[Thaiyotakamli]

1 hour ago, Davidtch said:

Ya ya CIA is the evil behind all these.

How does it benefit USA?

U said hk is important for china, if they screw hk, would it be akin of screwing china? 

If u keep thinking its enemy of Xi why cant u think its american? Because u pro western? Lol

 

[Heartlander]

50 minutes ago, Davidtch said:

Ya ya CIA is the evil behind all these.

How does it benefit USA?

You don't know the hostility US has against China? Don't tell me you do not know that USA has been trying to contain the rise of China?

It has been a known fact that USA has been behind all the recent movements to topple foreign governments. The article I attached listed evidence with photos and videos that the current protest leaders have been trained by USA, with the source from BBC, you also want to deny. You  can continue to live in denial, no problem for me.

[Heartlander]

Let me repost that article:

16th August 2019 – (Oslo) BBC reported in October 2014 that aristocracy of political activists gathered in a basement of a four star hotel in Oslo, Norway in 2014 to share ideas and learn at the Oslo Freedom Forum whose head office is based at 350, 5th Avenue New York, New York.

The forum was akin to a school for revolution for human rights activists. BBC described in a video that the Oslo Freedom Forum is definitely not a secret but it’s certainly obscure. Activists from all over the world are taught how to topple a government for good by planning and organising meticulously. An activist, Yang Jianli, a Chinese academic from Hong Kong was delegated with the task to organise the ongoing protest in the city in 2014 by deploying thousands of front line protesters on the streets.

He said that the students were better organised than the Tiananmen protesters ever were, with clearer, more effective structures for their action and clearer goals about what they were trying to achieve.

He also added that the responsibility for what happened next was not just down to the protesters themselves, not just down to other democracy activists like those gathered here in Oslo, but to the rest of the world.

The idea was hatched more than two years ago in 2012 and Yang Jianli, the man in-charge  protested himself during the Tiananmen Square incident in 1989. He was communicating with Joshua Wong, the student activist on a daily basis during the Occupy Central in 2014. Many of the student protesters were trained long before they took it to the streets. They were described as Weapon of Mass Destruction to challenge the Chinese government.

Organisers prepared a plan to deploy 10,000 people on to the streets, to occupy roads in central Hong Kong, back in January 2013. They believed that China’s moves to control the Hong Kong election would provide a flashpoint where civil disobedience could be effective, and planned accordingly.

Jamila Raqib, Executive Director of Albert Einstein Institution explained that the protesters were taught how to behave during a protest or arrest, keep ranks, speak to police, manage their own movement, how to use marshals within their movement and to arrange for basic food and water so that the movement can last longer. These group was meticulously trained to manage water canons or other types of violence deployed by police.

During the evenings of the conference, it was incongruous  to see hackers, North Korean defectors and other political dissidents from all over the world exchanged information over a glass of champagne.

 

The BBC video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=9&v=JIjVBUwpri8

Whoever said the protestors in hk did it in spontaneously, my foot! Now it has been exposed that its protest leaders have been receiving training from USA few years back. No wonder there is such order among the chaos in the manner the protests are been rolled out. Just look at the protest schedule with the professional graphic design, and the logistic support during the protests itself, really spontaneous my foot! Yang Jianli admitted infornt of camera that he is giving guidance to Joshua Wong on daily basis during the protests, what more evidence does nay-sayers want?

Edited November 3, 2019 by Heartlander
Added last sentence.

[Heartlander]

2 hours ago, Davidtch said:

Definitely.

As professional law enforcement force, their job is to use necessary leading to arrest.

Yes but has the unnecessary of force resulted from rioters with black eye or whole body bloody or with pants pulled down with intention to humiliate, courtesy of hkpf? On the contrary, the unnecessary use of force we have been witnessing have always been due to rioters on ordinary hk citizens who have opposing views. The rioters are not even mandated or authorized to use force legally, while the hkpf are just trying to contain the situation!

Perhaps this is what they will call non-violent way to provoke the authority to act, without killing anyone yet.  But I would think what the rioters are doing are simply and really 下三滥的手段，they are simply 人渣.

[Fcw75]

2 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

Yes in june they tried to enter legco building illegally. Police use force to stop them. U complaint its police brutality. 

Then weeks later the rioters entered legco building and vandalised, u complaint police set trap for them to enter

Then demand from one become five because of their own action, u blame hk govt and police incompetent. 

 

I am curious what weed u smoke? Seems like hell great!!

He just want to win lah. 

[inlinesix]

2 hours ago, Thaiyotakamli said:

U said hk is important for china, if they screw hk, would it be akin of screwing china? 

If u keep thinking its enemy of Xi why cant u think its american? Because u pro western? Lol

 

LOL!
That’s a nuclear option for Americans.

Once they use HK, US and China goes to Cold War.

[inlinesix]

2 hours ago, Heartlander said:

You don't know the hostility US has against China? Don't tell me you do not know that USA has been trying to contain the rise of China?

It has been a known fact that USA has been behind all the recent movements to topple foreign governments. The article I attached listed evidence with photos and videos that the current protest leaders have been trained by USA, with the source from BBC, you also want to deny. You  can continue to live in denial, no problem for me.

Sorry hor! USA do not want to contain the rise of China.

Rather US want to stop the rise of CCP. I posted Pompeo speech a few days ago.

Are you supportive of ever hawkish CCP? Rem we are a small country hor.

We only rid of CCP supporting MCP in late 80s.

Go and read the book from Zhao Zhi Yang about TianAnMen Square.

Lastly who is behind Oslo Freedom Forum?
 

 

[inlinesix]

35 minutes ago, Fcw75 said:

He just want to win lah. 

I am surprise about your comment here.

For someone who is so anti PAP